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8MM Mauser bullet selection question

bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
I have been shooting Yugo mil-surp and cast lead bullets only in the 8MM Mauser. Is there a preferred jacketed bullet weight for this round that is available in the USA?

In the 30-06, a similar round to the 8MM, the 150-168 match king is the go-to bullet, what would its counterpart be in 8MM?????

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  • jonkjonk Member Posts: 10,121
    edited November -1
    Nominally a 200 grainer for the twist of a short rifle. I've done well with the sierra 200 gr bthp. However, I've also done very well with the 150 gr Hornady spire point.

    A lot of data in the books is just wrong for the 8mm. They lo-ball it a LOT fearing someone might use it in a Gewehr 88 Commission rifle. For the 150 gr Hornady I use 49 gr of 4064, for the 200 gr I use 46. This for a 98 action of course. Obviously work up loads for your individual gun.

    In one or two I've had good luck with the 185 gr Remington as well but never really match grade accuracy.
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,088 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've tried several bullets including 185 Rem PSP, Hornady 150, and Nosler 180 BT. The 150's didn't provide decent accuracy. The Rem 185's did pretty well. The Nosler 180's really shined and had good velocity to boot. They would be my choice of deer bullets. I think the Rem 185 would be a fairly tough bullet since it is meant for the big 8mm Rem Mag.
  • sandwarriorsandwarrior Member Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bpost1958,

    I've had good luck for accuracy in everything from the 125 on up to 200's. I load mine as hot as you can get. My Yugo M48BO gets 51 gr. of IMR 4064 heind a 200 gr. Speer or Nosler. The accuracy in it stays around 1.5-1.75". Even with those heavy loads. I also use IMR 4064 behind the 150's, 170's and 175's. Those when not loaded as hot shoot MOA.

    The go to bullets for these are 196/198 gr. of European design. I shoot the Yugo M-75 (196) out of my sons Rem 700 classic for groups of .5".
  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    bpost1958,

    The original load was for the heavier bullets until it was determined that the lighter spitzer bullets yielded better performance. I still use the 196 gr. FMJ available through S&B by the case. They are my preferred load for military Match shooting.

    This is an interesting compilation of loads that I've had in my notes for quite a while:

    IMR4895 powder loads for the 8x57mm JS Mauser cartridge:

    1) "Sierra" [newer than 1971): 150 gr 50.5 gr 2800 fps 175 gr 48.1 gr
    2600 fps

    2) "Sierra 50 th Anniversary" 1995: 150 gr 50.5 gr 2800 fps 175 gr 48.1
    gr 2600 fps

    3) "Hornady Handbook" 1973: 150 gr 52.5 gr 2900 fps 170 gr 50.1 gr 2700
    fps

    4) "Hornady 5 th" 2000[ H4895): 150 gr 50.5 gr 2800 fps 170 gr 47.9 gr
    2600 fps

    5) "Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders volume 2" 1966 PO Ackley: 150 gr
    54 gr 2900 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2700 fps

    5.5) "Speer 6" 1964: 150 gr 54 gr 2864 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2704 fps 225 gr
    49
    gr 2452 fps

    6) "Speer 7" 1966: 150 gr 54 gr 2864 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2704 fps 225 gr 49
    gr 2452 fps

    7) "Speer 8" 1970: 150 gr 54 gr 2864 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2704 fps

    8) "Speer 9" 1974: 150 gr 48 gr 2849 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps

    9) "Speer 11" 1987: 150 gr 48 gr 2675 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps

    10) "Speer 12" 1994: 150 gr 48gr 2675 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps

    11) "Speer 13" 1998: 150 gr 48 gr 2675 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps

    12) "Lyman 40th" 1955: 154 gr 48 gr 2776 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2600 fps 227
    gr 45 gr 2350 fps

    13) "Lyman 41 st" 1957: 154 gr 48 gr 2776 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2600 fps 227
    gr 45 gr 2350 fps

    14) "Lyman 43 rd" 1964: 150 gr 54 gr 2920 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2695 fps 225
    gr 49 gr 2410 fps

    15) "Lyman 45th" 1970: 150 gr 51 gr* 2824 fps compressed 170 gr 49 gr*
    2672 fps compressed 225 gr 46 gr* 2341 fps compressed

    16) "Lyman 47th" 1992: 150 gr 51+ gr 2824 fps compressed 170 gr 49+gr
    2672 fps compressed

    17) "Handloading" William Davis and the NRA 1981 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k
    cup 170 gr 46 gr 2640 <50k cup

    18) IMR catalog 1990 [current): 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170 gr 33.5 gr
    2145 37k cup

    19) "Modern Reloading" Richard Lee 1996: 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170
    gr 33.5 gr 2145 37k cup

    20) "Hodgdon No. 27" 1998: 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170 gr 33.5 gr 2145
    37k cup

    Best.
  • malbillymalbilly Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    As a side note: does anyone have recipes they can share for the 8mm Rem. 185 gr. bullets using IMR4350? I prefer shooting the Hornady 150 gr. using IMR4350. It seems that around here, Cabela's only carries the Rem. 185 Core-Loc bullets in the 8x57 JS size. Thanks.
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,088 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nosler manual said 48-52 grains with their 180 BT so something less than that due to the extra weight and the flat base.
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