powder , ever heard of this ?

375H&H

Just bought a bunch of reloading supplies from a fella , and ended up with 2 full cans of winchester 230 P

They are in 1lb cans with the yellow WW label on them . It still has the new powder smell to it , was just wondering what it was used for ? rifle ? pistol ?

Also had 2 lbs of win 630 . I found data in one of my older Hornady manuals for 357 mag's & 44 mag's for this powder , but found nothing on the 230 P .

20gabob

Win 230P was a pistol powder and was replaced by Win 231. I still have a Win loading data sheet fot 230P so if you want the data off of it email me at bratterree@cox.net.

375H&H

20gabob, you have mail .

20gabob

Sorry but nothing has come thru on my emails.

Rocky Raab

I also have some 230P and 630.

W230P is a bit faster than 231, and fouls a bit worse but is usable for most target to mid-level handgun loads.

W630 is a medium-slow handgun powder about like BlueDot in uses. I love it as a 3/4 throttle powder in 45 Colt. THE load for me is a CCI 350 primer 15.0 W630 under a cast 255 SWC or RNFP. It gives 1000 fps with an SD of 6 and is as accurate as it can be held.

20gabob

My winchester sheet shows for 357mag 158 gr lead 5.6 gr at 1075 fps and for 44 mag 240 gr lead 9.0 gr at 1055 fps and thats all.

375H&H

Thank Ya Kindly 20ga , any data for a 158gr lead bullet for 38 special , using win 230 p ?

Also is 9 gr a starting load or a max load for the 44 and a 240gr SWC .

Would like to keep em under 1000 fps

20gabob

Those were what win would consider max loads so they could be reduced a bit. As for 158gr lead in 38 spec they show 3.7 gr at 855fps. They also show a 148 gr lead wadcutter load at 2.6 gr and 770fps if its of any interest. Hope this helps you out. bob

dg101win

For 230-P
This is from the #8 Speer Manual dated JUNE 1970. 38 spl 158swc lead
start 3.7--836fps
MAX 4.3--957fps

WITH CCI 550 MAG PRIMER
This is out of a S&W Model 14 6 inch bbl.

Same powder in a 44Mag with 250 cast swc

start 6.5--887fps
MAX 7.5--992fps With CCI 350 Mag Primer
using a S&W Mdl 29 6.5 inch bbl.

Rocky Raab

My only comment about that is that Speer had an in-house rule to use magnum primers with any ball power, no matter what. In handgun rounds, that is completely unnecessary, with very few exceptions.

375H&H

Thanks a bunch fella's for all the info .

Didn't try any of the 230P powder yet , but I did load some 38's with 158gr SWC and 7.6 gr's of the Win 630 and a CCI550 primer .

Just slightly past 1/2 way going by the Hornady manual , not sure of the copy right date , but if it has data for win 630 , it must be an older one .

The load mentioned above is an accurate & pleasent plinking load ,
Manual states they should be going around 850 fps .

Thanks again for all the input , when I do load some plinkers with the 230P , I'll post back and let ya know how I made out .