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Breaking down old loads- Updated!
Topkick
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I have been given about 100 or so loaded .30/06 cartridges, some labeled reloads and some M2 .30 cal Ball, Lake City.
I used my seater die to push them in the case a tad to break the seal, then used my RockChucker and RCBS puller to grab on to the bullet.
No matter how hard I push, smack, jam the lever, it's a no go and the bullet slips from the puller die.
I would like to reuse the cases, but I am at a loss.
Suggestions?
I used my seater die to push them in the case a tad to break the seal, then used my RockChucker and RCBS puller to grab on to the bullet.
No matter how hard I push, smack, jam the lever, it's a no go and the bullet slips from the puller die.
I would like to reuse the cases, but I am at a loss.
Suggestions?
Comments
Kinetic type bullet puller such as RCBS or Hornady, but still dangerous, even wearing a welding helmet, then you have live crimped in primers to deal with.
I would have thought about borrowing ole bro in law's o6 and shot em out, but too late now with the bullet down inside due to increased pressures, etc.
You might want to give them a toss and invest few dollars in new hulls before taking the chance of life, limb, eyes, etc.[B)]
You are above the bearing surface on the bullet, and trying to grab a taper. Use a kinetic puller and they will pop right out.
Believe me, I tried that first!
I have several hundred new cases.
I'm just trying to make use of 'em, I guess.
I'm not willing to shoot the reloads just to get the cases. I'm sure their fine, but.....they were loaded in the 70's by a friends father.
I'm thinking about soaking them in Kroil for a few days, clean them, then try the RCBS setup again.
Stay safe because soaking may not drown all.
Like many have stated, try a kinetic puller, bang a little harder. But if they don't come out after a while, I concur, dump them. It's not worth a serious injury. These are, after all, rifle rounds, not small .22 shells.
Be careful.
After wiping the Kroil around the bullet to soak into the case neck, I let them sit overnight.
Since I only pushed the bullets a few thousands into the neck, I had plenty to grab on to.
The RCBS puller worked this time as the Kroil loosened up the bullet. They popped right out.
I will fire the rifle to kill the primer tomorrow and clean and check the cases.
I appreciate all the kind responses!
Make sure you clean the rifle afterwards. Primer residue is nasty stuff and when fired alone, it is not blown out or diluted by powder gasses.
I will do that Rocky.
BTW- I have been following your site and have had a blast shooting the plinker loads in the .30/30 and now loading for the .30/06.
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Just de-cap the primers, no sense in blasting corrosive salts into your bore. Wear safety glasses and be mindful that one may pop in the die. It will BY-GOLLY-GUARANTEED scare the crap out of you but will hurt nothing. I de-capped THOUSANDS of 30-06 cases with corrosive primers in them and two went pop. THe slower you ease the ram down the less likely they are to pop.
Remember to wear safety glasses.............as well as a second pair of underwear just in case[;)]quote:Originally posted by bpost
Just de-cap the primers, no sense in blasting corrosive salts into your bore. Wear safety glasses and be mindful that one may pop in the die. It will BY-GOLLY-GUARANTEED scare the crap out of you but will hurt nothing. I de-capped THOUSANDS of 30-06 cases with corrosive primers in them and two went pop. THe slower you ease the ram down the less likely they are to pop.
few pairs of DEPENDS will help save your underwear when the primers pop!
I sonmetimes use a kinetic puller with a couple of foam ear plugs in the bottom of the puller tube to keep from distoring the tip of the bullet when it comes loose if I want to save the bullets for reloading.
The crimp type RCBS bullet puller will usually severly distort sides of a pulled bullet and render them not desirable for reloading unless you are using ole bro in laws gun.
All this for 100 '06 cases? There must be millions of them waiting to be reloaded out there, save the effort and get empty cases (either new or once fired). You'll be glad you did.
Right about the above post and I would also keep a heads up that some of the Lake City 06 brass is very thick and heavy, so keep a heads up and reduce the reload powder charge accordingly. (pressure can be higher with same amount of powder as compared to cases that weigh less grains) You can confirm such by comparing the weight of the Lake City brass vs rem, win, fed, etc, or compare the amount of water volume of the cases) I've seen some 06 Lake City hulls that would weigh 30-40 grains more than standard manu brass)
If not aware of such, I've seen some very bad groups come out of a normally accurate 06 due to Lake City brass mixed with standard brass and using the same powder load![:0]
I have been given about 100 or so loaded .30/06 cartridges, some labeled reloads and some M2 .30 cal Ball, Lake City.
I used my seater die to push them in the case a tad to break the seal, then used my RockChucker and RCBS puller to grab on to the bullet.
No matter how hard I push, smack, jam the lever, it's a no go and the bullet slips from the puller die.
I would like to reuse the cases, but I am at a loss.
Suggestions?
I always use a kinetic puller since it doesn't damage the bullet.
I see no issue with doing that with loaded rounds since there is nothing around the primer and ammo is subjected to much rougher handling during transport
BTW I use an RCBS puller with anything smaller than 50BMG
My family has storage units and there are usually ammo in the the ones they clean out. and I typically braeak them down and use what I can and clean, sell the components I can't use. THe powder makes a helluva fire starter mixed with wax and lint