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Stupid mistake
shoff14
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Just a warning to all you arrow builders on here. Make sure if you are using epoxy that you read the directions carefully as to how far down you are supposed to push the inserts. [:(!][V]
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Ruric, NE OHIO,
If you get this in time, maybe it will help.
I put in my inserts as far as I was told to, went to bed and the next morning went to check on the epoxy. As I was looking at the arrows I realized that there was no way I put them in far enough, the "pro-shop" had no idea what they were talking about. After I got done swearing, I started to try to muscle the inserts in. What the hell, if I couldn't fix em they might as well be broke. It took me about an hour to do the whole dozen, but I eventually got them seated properly.
Depending on how long ago you did this, most insert epoxy doesn't fully cure in 24 hours.
Arrows with the HIT inserts?
yeah, it was 3 days, they wouldn't budge at all, either way. I ended up getting 7 of them out, ruined 5. I would have cut them and sold them if I didn't need them for this next weekend. I use 29.5 so there is plenty of room, but I need all week to get my new bow tuned into these so I can go to a 3D with my father this weekend. I put myself in a loose loose situation.
I swear I'm hearing alot of that going around lately[}:)]
Did you just stick the insert tool up to the first rib?
I swear I'm hearing alot of that going around lately[}:)]
how did you guess? Only I went to the second rib.
shelly
shelly
thats why I really dont like those arrows..( sell them but dont like them ) Nobody should ever epoxy in there inserts unless that never plan on changing anything..getting a new bow, changing their rest .etc. the low temp glue special for carbons is the only way to go..its just like people using loc tite on their rings and bases on their guns...
I have always used hot clue on all the inserts I have installed in the past. But I got to thinking, was there ever a time that I needed to remove the inserts? I answered that question with a no. Now that was with using broadheads that I could adjust without moving the inserts.
Your second question,
It probably would have cost me about 10-15 bucks more or whatever they would have charged. I already had all the equipment, vanes, clue, ect. and I like doing it. However, this was not only my first set of axis arrows, but first set of carbons. And I learned a lot. Carbons don't clean up anything like aluminums do with laquer that was just a mess. And I learned not to screw them up again, cause once i shoot a couple 3D's I will probably need some more arrows. I have done hundreds of arrows in my 7 or 8 years of archery. It was my way of getting free arrows, I would fletch my Dad's and his friends in exchange for some arrows.
thats why I really dont like those arrows..( sell them but dont like them ) Nobody should ever epoxy in there inserts unless that never plan on changing anything..getting a new bow, changing their rest .etc. the low temp glue special for carbons is the only way to go..its just like people using loc tite on their rings and bases on their guns...
shelly
After the amount of inserts I have lost using the low temp glue, I am a firm believer in the epoxy. Besides whenever I get a new bow I always get new arrows, to me its kind of like buying new tennis shoes and re-using your old laces.
Use an Acetote type thinner, when you clean the shafts stay away from the arrow labeling on the Axis though, some of it comes off after a few times(I've been experimenting with different vanes and fletch patterns)
shelly
so nobody tunes their broadheads ?
Some broadheads you don't have to move the inserts in order to tune them. The broadheads I have been using since I started hunting are like this, the tip is stationary and the blades are in a sleeve that goes around the tip, just have to loosen the tip with a wrench, spin the blade a little, tighten the tip back up and shoot again.
quote:Originally posted by shelly
plus when we sell arrows cutting them down and inserting the inserts and fieldtips is always free.
Now that is nice of you!
so nobody tunes their broadheads ?
There are many broadheads on the market now that do not require tuning, if they do require tuning use Buckeys method.
quote:by the way easton does recommend low temp glue ..they used to give you some in each pack of inserts.
Their Axis arrrows require epoxy
http://www.eastonarchery.com/products/accessories/accessories/epoxy.asp
quote:I still perfer low temp hot melt hardley and inserts have ever came out of any of our customers or my arrows.
Good for you, the shop I go to wanted to try out the "low temp" and used me as their guinea pig because I shoot there often. Long story short 8 out of 12 inserts pulled out, since switching back to epoxy not a single problem. I am glad you or your customers have not experienced this however I will be sticking to epoxy.
quote:You can take out your inserts when needed and cut down your arrows if need be etc. without wasting money.
Again why? Overdraws are a thing of the past and mysteriously with the past 3 bows my arrow length has stayed the same.
quote: plus when we sell arrows cutting them down and inserting the inserts and fieldtips is always free.
shelly
Pretty standard really. I have yet to go to a shop that charges extra for assembling arrows.
Shelly I am not trying to pee in your wheaties or pick on you.
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