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COLT WALKER HERITAGE COMMERATIVE

polyolpolyol Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
Can anyone give me some background info and pricing on a Colt Walker heritage commerative Black powder S/A revolver. Stamped 1847 company C # 930. I believe it was issued in 1979. Still unfired and in its original box with a large book included,
Thanks, M.L.

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  • bprevolverbprevolver Member Posts: 153 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Colt Heritage Walker usually sells for around $1000+. If you have all the original shipping containers(cardboard boxes) and literature you can add around another $300. These prices will increase so don't be too quick to sell it.
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bprevolver
    The Colt Heritage Walker usually sells for around $1000+. If you have all the original shipping containers(cardboard boxes) and literature you can add around another $300. These prices will increase so don't be too quick to sell it.

    I don't know where bprevolver shops but I've never seen a Heritage Walker sell for more than $800 WITH the box and book. They're usually more in the $700-$750 range. Those are traditionally very slow sellers as Colt issued them with a special serial number rather than a continuation of the originals like they did with the 1851 Navy and 1860 Army. If you get an offer of $1,000, grab it and run like the wind to the bank!
  • LEE3370LEE3370 Member Posts: 24 ✭✭
    edited November -1
  • bprevolverbprevolver Member Posts: 153 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey Spider, If you have any Heritage Walkers for $700-$750 let me know. I personally have sold three of these commemoratives for over $1000. Really like to know your source. Appears that Lee got more than your estimated opinion fairly quickly. Do you actually purchase guns or just talk about them? From your opinions on other posts it appears that you have many opinions about collecting without the knowledge to go along with it, especially when it comes to the modern production percussion revolver.
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bprevolver
    Hey Spider, If you have any Heritage Walkers for $700-$750 let me know. I personally have sold three of these commemoratives for over $1000. Really like to know your source. Appears that Lee got more than your estimated opinion fairly quickly. Do you actually purchase guns or just talk about them? From your opinions on other posts it appears that you have many opinions about collecting without the knowledge to go along with it, especially when it comes to the modern production percussion revolver.

    Congratulations and I'm happy for you. Selling prices can vary widely by region and a Walker would likely bring more money out west. Or, maybe buyers in the east are just a bit smarter with their investment money than they are out there. By the way, I've been collecting for over 40 years, including Colt Second Generation blackpowder revolvers, thank you.

    Here's one you might want to grab - nobody bid more than $600 for it: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=72072272 Like I said, they're slow movers. The standard issue Walker is and was a much better investment than the "Heritage". I'll give you another example: The 1977 "Cavalry" set of matched 1860 Colt Armies with shoulder stock. That set sold for $1,000 in 1977 and you would be lucky to get that much today although I have seen them offered at $1,200. You could have made more money leaving the $1,000 in the bank. However, the standard 1860 Army with continuing serial numbers continues to bring a much better return on investment since the "Cavalry" set had unique numbers.

    Finally, if you had bothered to look at http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=73799126 which "sold" for $950 before criticizing me, you would see that the buyer never PAID for it and it's been relisted http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=74843836 so it did NOT sell for $950. It's not a sale if it isn't paid for.
  • bprevolverbprevolver Member Posts: 153 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So??? It appears to me that you are one of those persons who likes to think that if it is not done "their way" then it is not "correct". I have already responded to other pseudo experts so I will not waste my time with any future debates. To change the mind of the "Colt" collectors who had rather have one rusty "boat anchor" for $5,000 than modern production revolvers is like trying to change the mind of a muslin bomber not to kill himself to get his forty virgins.

    Why do people even bother to respond to postings if they don't really have anything to contribute? From the number of postings you have it must be your full time job, and you appear to be an "expert" in every subject. I use Forums to gather information not to be hassled by self proclaimed experts with opinions rather than facts. It is not my social or professional life so I have few postings, but I use over thirty different Forums for this purpose. I tend to disregard "Senior Members" opinions because I have yet to get any first hand knowledge from them, just narrow-minded opinions. They are too busy posting responses to learn anything new or current. Some of you opinions are real "interesting" to say the least. One you made about the American Historical Foundation productions was of particular interest and showed your total lack of current information. I have been posting to purchase several of these for over ten years and have not found them as yet. The old clich? that, "Opinions are like * holes, everyone has one", may be very true.

    By the way, I can tell you're from the East, probably New York. Since you, for some reason, do not choose to provide any information about yourself in your profile your credibility might be questionable. As a retired psychologist of over thirty years I can tell a lot about a person by their representation of themselves. Using bold letters in your post to draw attention to yourself; the use of the "Semper Fidelis" (not strictly a Marine motto, used by army units as well) as another ego identifier; and, last but not least, the annoying "pop up ad" type spider running across the page all have significant meaning. It appears to be a female black widow?? The males are much smaller than the female, do not look the same, and are eaten by the female when she finishes breeding.

    In closing, I buy from auctions like Gun Broker and {elsewhere} but do not sell on them for the very reason you point out. The guns I sell are sold to private collectors both here and abroad. So, as a "Colt" collector, you must notice that all those 2nd Generation Colt percussion revolvers on these auctions very seldon sell as well, and are certainly not showing the short term appreciation of those replicas of other manufacturers and distributors.
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
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    I appreciate the fact that we can agree to disagree. As someone whose career is very much opinion-based as opposed to an exact science, I'm sure you find the gun collecting world to be just as arbitrary. Nothing has true value until it sells and it is that which establishes its value. Nonetheless, I stand by my opinion of AHS reproductions. Although many are beautiful and high-quality, they simply do not appreciate in value like the originals. That's not opinion but just fact. Anyone who bought a Heritage in 1980 for $800 versus someone who bought an original Colt for the same money would certainly agree that present-day value has determined which gun was the better investment. Demand for originals will always supercede that of non-historical replicas. A "smart search" on Gunbroker for completed auctions will show 17 Walker Heritage models listed with only 2 which received bids, including the one that fell through. The demand simply is not there and that was my point. I took the original poster's inquiry as looking for market-based value although there will always be exceptions in one direction or the other.

    I find it interesting that you participate in over 30 forums whereby I only participate in 2. With all due respect, it would appear that it is not me who has nothing better to do with their time. I find these forums to be a place to learn, teach and opine which I believe to be their intended purposes.

    I also appreciate your psychoanalysis of me based on such minimal information contained in my posts and profile.

    I'm particularly impressed that you were able to determine the gender of an arachnid based soley on a cartoon.

    I knew I shoulda stayed in school. [;)]
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bprevolver
    Hey Spider, If you have any Heritage Walkers for $700-$750 let me know. I personally have sold three of these commemoratives for over $1000. Really like to know your source. Appears that Lee got more than your estimated opinion fairly quickly. Do you actually purchase guns or just talk about them? From your opinions on other posts it appears that you have many opinions about collecting without the knowledge to go along with it, especially when it comes to the modern production percussion revolver.

    Here ya go: $600 with no reserve or $650 "Buy it now":
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=80794195
  • oldgunneroldgunner Member Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    bprevolver..We all do our best here to be accurate and stay friendly. If you can do both, great, if you can do one or the other, that will be acceptable..But don't blow them both, ok..[:)][:)]
  • Wolf.Wolf. Member Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    -bprevolver,
    On top of what oldgunner said:

    I, personally, did not join this message boad site to have to deal with people (be they new members or "old hands" [old hands, are you listening?]) attempting to belittle, defame or humiliate me. Defending oneself is time-consuming, and most folks don't bother with a response to bad behavior on the part of another member.

    This isn't a contest to see who can say the smartest-assed thing to one another. What you said to Spider7115 was spiteful and insulting in my opinion, and you owe him an apology. If you don't agree with someone, how about thinking about a nice way to say what you have to say? If you can't, please save it and don't post it here.
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