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Recommendations for a .50 cal inline

cccoopercccooper Member Posts: 4,044
Is the Knight still the best bang for the buck? Trying to stay under $300 total gun/scope.

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  • anderskandersk Member Posts: 3,825
    edited November -1
    I say that Thompson Center is the best way to go.
  • Walley19Walley19 Member Posts: 118 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In that Knight is no longer in business I personally would shy away from them. On the auction side you can find quite a few quality rifle/scope combinations at reasonable prices. In new guns at the price you mentioned you are somewhat limited to CVA, Traditions or Lyman. I recently bought a Traditions Buckstalker with scope for $260.00 from Cabela?_Ts that seems to be worth the money.
  • cccoopercccooper Member Posts: 4,044
    edited November -1
    I've read the reviews on CVA; not too good. I did see an older model Knight that was top of the line a couple of years back. Didn't know that Knight was out of business.
  • Walley19Walley19 Member Posts: 118 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As far as the reviews of CVA go the only real negative report that I have seen was written by Randy Wakemen who seems to be down on all CVA products do to a recall on one of their rifles several years ago. Chuck Hawks gave the Optima Pro a good review. I have read far more positive reviews of their products than negative. Most of the hunters I know around here have CVAs and get along with them just fine. My grandson gave me a Wolf 209 magnum for my 70th birthday, which I really like even though I mainly shoot cap locks. . I only bought the Buckstalker as a loaner because I won?_Tt loan out my cap locks and I hesitate loaning the Wolf for sentimental reasons.
  • bobbyrose512bobbyrose512 Member Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    For me knight is still the way to go. My understanding that Knight is to reopen. Here is the new info.

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=447253
  • 1tinman11tinman1 Member Posts: 59 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    WhenI started using inlines in the late 1990's I wanted top of the line and went with TC Encore. I hunted NJ and it was scoped and I shot a sabot jacketed hollow point pistol bullet with only 100 grains of triple 7. It was dead on accurate and put every animal I shot right onto the ground.

    Now I have another issue. Want to hunt in Colorado where sabots are prohibited. Anyone have a suggestion for bullet type, manufacturer, grain bullet and powder?

    Thanks.
  • Walley19Walley19 Member Posts: 118 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Will you be hunting deer or elk. In my side locks I use different conicals and loads depending on what I am after. I suggest you work up loads trying several different conicals. I only use Pyrodex RS and like the Horady"s Great Plains bullets.
  • KX500KX500 Member Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Knight, if I had a need. I own a Wolverine and had a Disc as well. Both great guns. Nothing really wrong with either. Personally, I think the Knight Disc rifles out there are a bargain - they fit into your price range and sold for $500 and up at one point. Also, when Knight wanted to build their 'long range hunter', the Disc rifle was where they started.

    Anyway, here a few pros and cons of these two Knight models:

    The worst thing about the Wolverine for me is that you have to take it all the way apart to clean the barrel. It doesn't take that long, but kind of a pain. On the plus side, these are nice light rifles. Mine came with a # 11 cap nipple that was easy to replace with a musket cap nipple for more reliable ignition. I know they make kits to convert these to 209 primers or newer models may even come with that. You can still find these at good prices, new.

    The two bad things about the Disc are the disc and the trigger. The Disc uses the 209 primer and you have to insert these into a little plastic disc, so the primer is oriented correctly for the firing pin. Can't shoot the gun without these discs. Not really horrible though, the discs are pretty easy to get a hold of and can be reused 3 or 4 times if you don't mind pressing the old primers out of them. The triggers on both of these guns are nice and adjustable. With the Disc however, it seems like blowback debris eventually gets into the trigger mechanism and trigger pull can get funky until you clean it up. The trigger is a pain to clean, but it probably takes 100 shots or more before you can tell the trigger pull has changed.

    I guess, most muzzeloaders will have something about them you don't like. While the Knights are good guns, my experiences with them made me more than ready to buy the Savage ML as soon as my state made smokeless powder legal in a ML. Way more fun and easy to live with, for me.
  • rongrong Member Posts: 8,459
    edited November -1
    +1 for TC Arms. I have an Omega,
    it's a good accurate Ml but if I
    were ever to buy another I would
    buy the model that breaks open a bit.
    So much easier to access the primer.
    Only shotfall is it's not legal
    to use a break action in Mass.
  • anderskandersk Member Posts: 3,825
    edited November -1
    It was said that there is something that you don't like with every muzzle loader. Well, I like just about everything about my Omega 50. I guess then that it does fall into "the only thing I don't like" category. It does shoot great. But about my Omega 50 that I don't like is that dressed in camo and SS it doesn't look like a gun!
  • anderskandersk Member Posts: 3,825
    edited November -1
    I went out to shoot the cannon again today. Never ceases to amaze me how much fun it is! I also realized that it is pretty easy to hit high on the berm when I though I was just raising it a small amount. It is short like a pistol even if it is sitting on the ground.
  • forgemonkeyforgemonkey Member Posts: 20,101 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    CCC,,,,,found a new Austin Halleck that was being sold on consignment at a gun store,,,,,couldn't resist,,,,,put a peep sight on and loved the results,,,,,this thing will group with any of my cartridge rifles at 150-175 yds and they have scopes on them,,,,,if you can find one give it a look,,,,,,
  • anderskandersk Member Posts: 3,825
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by andersk
    I went out to shoot the cannon again today. Never ceases to amaze me how much fun it is! I also realized that it is pretty easy to hit high on the berm when I though I was just raising it a small amount. It is short like a pistol even if it is sitting on the ground.


    OOPS ... I posted this on the wrong thread!
  • laylandadlaylandad Member Posts: 1,019 ✭✭
    edited November -1
  • dcso3009dcso3009 Member Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    TC's are very nice, but you will have a hard time finding one in the $300 range.

    Last year I grabbed a CVA for $180. I have no complaints at all. Sure the TC's are nicer, but the CVA shoots just as well. The stock fit to the metal could be tighter, the finish could be better, but this is an <$200 gun.... what do you expect? Function over fashion I say.
  • laylandadlaylandad Member Posts: 1,019 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know that this doesn't include the scope, but for a quality ML, you can't beat the price of these two!

    http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=165135003
    http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=165740601
  • anderskandersk Member Posts: 3,825
    edited November -1
    I'd pop for the two T/C's just mentioned and forget about the scope! You won't regret it!
  • KatsteeKatstee Member Posts: 30 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If your set on the Knight, go for it. Knight is back in business, but moved to a different state (TN), with new ownership (PI Inc). I fyou want a break open, you can also get a good deal on the Knight Vision right now at SG, I think it's around $200 for the gun.
  • bambambambambambam Member Posts: 4,797 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a CVA Mag Hunter 150. I bought it from a friend for $100. I shoot 300gr Powerbelt bullets and 100-150 gr Triple Seven, couldn't ask for a better shooting gun. I have two friends with T/C Encore and one with a Black Diamond. All off them use SST bullets and have good luck with them. Price that you mentioned probly leave you looking for used guns or the CVA line. Not a fan at all of Knight, but that's just my 2 cents[;)]
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