New truck tires....I'm so confused...

ltcdoty · August 2020

I have a 2017, 4X4 Ford F150 that has 48,000 miles on it. It has been driven more like a car then a truck. I think the biggest thing I've had in the back is maybe a bicycle and a lawn mower.I'm going to need new tires sooner than later. It has Goodyear Wranglers on it with twenty inch wheels. I wish I paid more attention when I bought the truck. This is going to be expensive. Looking for recommendations on new tires. I am a true nimrod when it comes to this.

Ricci.Wright · August 2020

My old 1999 Chevy van has 15" tires. I would not want the 18 and 20" thin tires everybody uses today. Must ride like a buckboard without the meat of a regular 15" tire to absorb the bumps.

Nanuq907 · August 2020

Depends ... is it going to live its life on the road?
I'm looking for tires for my '63 Land Rover. It's tough.
I went from 15" wheels to 16" wheels so it gives me more selection.
Next I decide "what percentage onroad and offroad"?
Then "if offroad, what conditions? Mud? Rocks? Snow?"
Then "if onroad, what speeds? Cornering capability? Wet / dry performance?"
There's a plethora of criteria. How you plan to use it is question #1.

SCOUT5 · August 2020

Michelin all weather. Great for the type use you describe and has enough tread for most off road situations. Hands down the best set of tires I've run on an f150.

truthful · August 2020

Get tires made for mileage, not the soft rubber types that emphasize traction. Also, be sure to keep them properly inflated. Soft tires (air or rubber) wear out fast.

COLT · August 2020

...Only bought Michelin for the last 30 yrs. for my truck...one flat during that time, no other tire problems, and they have given me the most miles of any tire.... I wont buy any other brand....worth every penny....

Nanuq907 · August 2020

Who can tell me where to buy a set of 7.50 x 16 BF Goodrich Mud T/As? I've been looking for 2 years.

SCOUT5 · August 2020

Nanuq907 said:

Who can tell me where to buy a set of 7.50 x 16 BF Goodrich Mud T/As? I've been looking for 2 years.

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https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5M26kOal6wIVzsDACh3XKgHtEAQYAiABEgKGvvD_BwE&tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Wrangler+MT%2FR+with+Kevlar&partnum=175QR6WMTRK&GCID=C13674x012-tire&KEYWORD=tires.jsp_Goodyear_Wrangler+MT%2FR+with+Kevlar_Tire&code=yes&ef_id=EAIaIQobChMI5M26kOal6wIVzsDACh3XKgHtEAQYAiABEgKGvvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!3756!3!72322456933!!!g!99873167773!&gclsrc=aw.ds

Nanuq907 · August 2020

The tread pattern is nice but a 235/75 - R16 is 12.4" wide and 34.6" tall. Yikes!! My current tires are 9.5" wide and 33" tall and they're actually too big. Thanks though!

EDIT: I just saw I can select different sizes on that site, and I found a great set of 235/85 - R16 for $667 What a deal!

jjmIII_Ruger · August 2020

Nitto Terra Grappler G2
Not cheap but you'll get 60k+ out of a set. Hard to find anything that wears better on a 4x4 Ford. They cost more but last long if it's a truck your keeping. 275/60-20 will give you just a bit more sidewall and look nice filling the fender well.

RobOz · August 2020

https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11208781#Comment_11208781

A 235 75 16 is around 30 inches tall.

serf · August 2020

I would go with Pirelli Scorpion ATR All-Terrain Tires but if cash is no Problem buy Michelin.

serf

https://www.amazon.com/Pirelli-Scorpion-ATR-All-Terrain-Tire/dp/B004QL6UJ4/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Pirelli+Scorpion+ATR+All-Terrain+Tires+24+inch&qid=1597793454&sr=8-1

brier-49 · August 2020

I've been putting Kumho tires for a few years now. Very inexpensive , great tread design on the all season and the last set went 65,000. $ 650 out the door

chiefr · August 2020

Will be needing some as well. What I want is one that is good for rain and is quiet.

I grew up with either 14 or 15 inch tires on everything I drove going back to the 50s and up to the 90s.
Things have changed. Most pickups even half tons have up to 20" wheels today.

Seems most tires are made in China or Asia. Hope Bpost will sign in here as he is our resident expert.

chme · August 2020

Have a 2004 Jeep Grand Chrokee. Needed 4 tires 2 years ago. Got a price from Goodyear and from Firestone. When my heart started beating again, looked around. OK- this is the part where you all start to yell "Heresy!" and start making signs against the evil eye, shaking pitchforks and lighting torches.
Went to Walmart. Bought Kumho tires. Yes, they are so Chinese they come with a fortune cookie.
Price was 1/3 of what Goodstone and Fireyear quoted me. 2 years later, they still ride good, good traction, very little wear showing. You may finish lighting your torches, I'll get the stuff to make S'Mores.

Cling2myguns · August 2020

If its used as a car put car tires on it, P designation. If its actually used as a truck get LT tires. City truck get high mileage street tires. Farm truck get meatier tires like BF Goodrich All Terrain TA KO.

I buy tires best suited for useage. My truck currently has Cooper Discoverer HT3 10 plys on it as I mainly use it to pull trailers on road and need the weight capacity.

grdad45 · August 2020

Check out the Cooper Tire light truck tire line. Most of them are made in the US. My F150 came with Goodyear Wranglers, but being a Cooper retiree, of course, I replaced them with AT3s. Quiet and smooth ride with good traction even in the rain. Mine were made right here in my home town.

susie · August 2020

My Chevy 2500 runs on 20's. Got 80k out.of the first set of tires. Kept nitrofil in them and rotated on a regular basis. Highway, and gravel road were my daily commutes when working. Some offloading to hunt and haul.

I believe the nitro and rotating made a difference.

Horse Plains Drifter · August 2020

RobOz said:

A 235 75 16 is around 30 inches tall.

Yep, a 235/75R16 tire is 235mm(9.25") wide sidewall to sidewall at maximum rated pressure, and maximum rated load. The sidewall height is 75% of the 235mm width, so 176.25mm(6.94"). So if you double the 6.94", and add in a 16" wheel, you have almost a 30" tall tire just like Rob said. Again, this is at maximum rated pressure and load.

As to the OP, we have had great service from Michelin and Bridgestone tires from Costco. Made in either USA or Canada. Whatever you decide, please DO NOT buy Chinese tires, they are garbage.

neacpa · August 2020

I have always been very pleased with Bridgestone Duelers.

William81 · August 2020

I purchased a new 2015 Ford F150 4X4 at the end of 2015. The truck came with Goodyear Wranglers. 20"....
Decent road tires but not up to the task of living on a gravel road, some light farm work and bouncing me around to my favorite hunting and fishing spots....When I reached just over 40K a couple of months ago, I finally got rid of them...
During the 4.5 years one was destroyed and I had six other flats.....mostly they were nails from Amish horses and other junk and or sharp rocks.....the final straw was two flats at the same time when I hit a sharp rock on a nearby road.....

I replaced them with 10 ply General AT3 Grabbers......the truck rides a little different but I know I will be better off now....

bustedknee · August 2020

Cling2myguns said:

...I buy tires best suited for useage....

That is what I recommend. Tires dry-rot before I can wear them out.

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planned obsolescence

In economics and industrial design, planned obsolescence (also called built-in obsolescence or premature obsolescence) is a policy of planning or designing a product with an artificially limited useful life, so that it becomes obsolete (i.e., unfashionable, or no longer functional) after a certain period of time.[1] The rationale behind this strategy is to generate long-term sales volume by reducing the time between repeat purchases (referred to as "shortening the replacement cycle").[2] It is the deliberate shortening of a lifespan of a product to force consumers to purchase replacements.[3]...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence

You might want to avoid Goodyear:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/goodyear-bans-employees-wearing-lives-matter-blue-lives-matter-maga-slogans-says-black-lives-matter-allowed/

gjshaw · August 2020

Another vote for Michelin. Ran them on my f150 when I had it.

Mark G · August 2020

Head on over to the Ford Truck Enthusiasts website.
Lots of knowledge over there.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/forum276/

badchris · August 2020

+1 on checking out Cooper tires. A good lower cost option still made in the USA.

Horse Plains Drifter · August 2020

badchris said:

+1 on checking out Cooper tires. A good lower cost option still made in the USA.

Yep Coopers are great too.

Chief Shaway · August 2020

I just retreaded my 2014 and also my 2005 that I got back from my son since he bought a new car.

The 05 I did as cheap as I could since it has 219000 miles on it.

The 14 was double the price. But, a lot better tire , and they are 20's also. 20’s are pricey.

I went with Cooper Discovery AT3 XLT on the 14. A little over $1100

Trail Guide All Terrain on the 05. A little under $600

Ricci.Wright · August 2020

AS far as I am concerned there's Michelin and all the other lesser brands.

Smitty500mag · August 2020

Michelin cost more up front but in the long run they're cheaper because they last and they'll balance until they're worn out.

Ricci.Wright · August 2020

If you wouldn't buy a hi point then don't buy "cheap" tires.

likemhot · August 2020

Cooper's Discoverer ATP here on my 2011 F150. Great tires, have used them on my last 3 trucks. I use them on the highway a lot, tow everything from a 9000 pound pontoon with trailer, and 2 place ATV trailer. Great on wet boat ramps, in the snow, and hunting fields. Discount Tires can't be beat. I put the road hazard insurance on my tires, my son came home with a slow leak in his truck tires and the weekend was approaching, I sent him to Discount and they fixed it for free. My wife picked up something in the road traveling to work and had her low tire pressure go off several times during the last month, yep sent her to Discount and they fixed it for free. Great tires and service, If I had any complaints they are just a little noisy on the highway but they are high traction tires.

jimdeere · August 2020

Goodyear can kma. I’ll never buy anything from them.
https://www.wibw.com/2020/08/18/goodyear-employees-say-new-no-tolerance-policy-is-discriminatory/

Nanuq907 · August 2020

I took your advice and went looking for Coopers. I found some Discoverer Maxx S/T All-seasons in 235/85 R16 with free delivery to Alaska. Hot doggies, I'm gonna have new shoes for my baby! Thanks for the suggestions!

grdad45 · August 2020

Nanuq907 said:

I took your advice and went looking for Coopers. I found some Discoverer Maxx S/T All-seasons in 235/85 R16 with free delivery to Alaska. Hot doggies, I'm gonna have new shoes for my baby! Thanks for the suggestions!

I think you will like them. Almost all Cooper light truck tires are made in either Texarkana, AR or Tupelo, MS. BUY 'MERICAN!!!!

select-fire · August 2020

GoodYear Wrangler Kevlars Load range E bought on sale with Discount Tire Rebate and GoodYear rebate. Bought the best for less than a full set of Coopers and put 200 in my pocket.

chiefr · August 2020

bustedknee said:

Cling2myguns said:

...I buy tires best suited for useage....

That is what I recommend. Tires dry-rot before I can wear them out.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
planned obsolescence
In economics and industrial design, planned obsolescence (also called built-in obsolescence or premature obsolescence) is a policy of planning or designing a product with an artificially limited useful life, so that it becomes obsolete (i.e., unfashionable, or no longer functional) after a certain period of time.[1] The rationale behind this strategy is to generate long-term sales volume by reducing the time between repeat purchases (referred to as "shortening the replacement cycle").[2] It is the deliberate shortening of a lifespan of a product to force consumers to purchase replacements.[3]...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence

You might want to avoid Goodyear:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/goodyear-bans-employees-wearing-lives-matter-blue-lives-matter-maga-slogans-says-black-lives-matter-allowed/

Good post, few know about planned obsolescence. A big reason I quit buying GM, Ford, and Chrysler products.

Nanuq907 · August 2020

Funny thing about Goodrich T/A tires, as mentioned above. I run BFG T/A Mud-Terrain on the Red Rover and love them. Great in rocks and muck, and pretty doggone good in deep snow. Bumper deep never stopped me. So I found a pair of BFG T/A All-Terrain on sale for the Grey Rover and holy schmolies. The things are like a pig on skates in the snow. I know my snow ain't your snow, but I'd rather get out and walk down off my mountain than try to get down it with the T/A All Terrains. They're flat spooky. So I gave them away and put on Nokian Hakkapeliittas and never looked back. Those things are like a cat on carpet, no matter HOW icy it is.

Nanuq907 · August 2020

For people trying to figure out tire sizes, I made a VERY simple little spreadsheet that calculates overall diameter for either imperial or metric widths and aspect ratios. Just change the numbers in the blue boxes and it will calc the height.

select-fire · August 2020

austin20 said:

Here is what you get with Goodyear
F#~¥ that company

Had mine on since last July 4th huge sale. Not changing any tires because they made a moronic statement. Still have about 50k miles left in em.

Mobuck · August 2020

I'd take the 20" rims off and advertise them for sale. Find a set of 16 or 17" rims that fit and put some cheap tires on.

brier-49 · August 2020

chme said:

Have a 2004 Jeep Grand Chrokee. Needed 4 tires 2 years ago. Got a price from Goodyear and from Firestone. When my heart started beating again, looked around. OK- this is the part where you all start to yell "Heresy!" and start making signs against the evil eye, shaking pitchforks and lighting torches.
Went to Walmart. Bought Kumho tires. Yes, they are so Chinese they come with a fortune cookie.
Price was 1/3 of what Goodstone and Fireyear quoted me. 2 years later, they still ride good, good traction, very little wear showing. You may finish lighting your torches, I'll get the stuff to make S'Mores.

Kumho tires are S Korean not Chinese .

New truck tires....I'm so confused...

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