The fishing trip that lasts a lifetime.
SoreShoulder
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Lately I had been eating a lot of foods with antinutrients. They tend to remove heavy metals. It brought back some memories.
It brought back memories of a few incidents involving lake fish during my childhood visits to northern cities in which I didn't know why the adults wanted to throw them out. It seems once or twice some outsider stepped in and said "we need people" then I got the fish.
It was just a handful of people and I could have misheard them. But they seemed to be talking for the city.
Later it turned out that if you're tainted with mercury, basically any city which wasn't industrialized during the coal burning era is closed to you. The people just won't accept you and they might try to hurt you because you're poisoning the water supply. And it seemed like they always knew. People seemed to have the idea that I was stubborn and wouldn't do what my doctor said but for the life of me I can't think of what those instructions were.
Perhaps it happens a lot? Perhaps to Boeing?
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Huh?
Uuummmmmm........WHAT?!
At the local boat landings their are signs saying it isn't healthy to eat X amount of fish from these waters, I presume due to mercury levels due to coal fired power generation plants near by.
I've never heard of anyone being asked to leave the state due to eating too many LOL
Most of Americas food supply is tainted with something, heck the anti acid Zytec was contaminated with MDMA or whatever, if you eat anything in this country you are probably already tainted!
wonder if we will get a codebook to translate with, when new owners take over........... seems to be about half a dozen posters lately I am just totally lost with
What we have here is a failure to communicate. Writing comprehension is a lost skill.
Whatever affliction owles has seems to be spreading.......
The state puts out a list of lakes that are marginal to fish due to heavy concentrates of mercury.
Same here in NC. Wildlife publishes guide on fish that are contaminated and consumption limits on them . I agree that a few posters seem to be skipping a few doses of their needed medications
I'll have what he is having bartender.
"if you're tainted with mercury" Maybe this is the issue!?
Mad Hatter Syndrome. You can look it up.
(mike55 - may I assume that was not your call sign? If it was, can you be the Mike 55 I flew with?)
Didn't one state just legalize magic mushrooms? Perhaps that is why I need a translator. Bob
It's hard to get a doctor to take the issue seriously much less give you a test. It also turns out a lot of common foods are loaded with antinutrients which can chelate heavy metals out of the body. For example, seeds have minerals bound with phytic acid to keep them inactive and insoluble until sprouting produces phytase enzyme which inactivates the phytic acid and makes the minerals available for the growth of the seedling. I believe it is possible to absorb the zinc phytate or iron phytate or calcium phytate or others, then when those molecules contact a heavy metal, they drop the mineral they are holding and chelate the heavy metal and hold it in insoluble form until excreted because they always prefer the heavier mineral. So, a few decades later, I probably wouldn't test unusually high for mercury.
It is my understanding that these big cities need engineers and other professions as well as homeys or friends or infantrymen who can help defend the high value personnel and facilities which are close to riot-prone neighborhoods that the workers live in.
“...and you’ve just had some kind of mushroom...go ask Alice, I think she’ll know...”
Not the same mike55.
As to the other posts from "sore shoulder"...........Wait.........WHAT?! I mean i understand that heavy metal poisoning is real. The rest of your posts, well.....I dont know what to say. Take em easy.
Thank you, 55. 58 out.
Freezin'
Rests his head on a pillow made of concrete again
Oh, feelin'
Maybe he'll see a little betters, any days
Oh, hand out
Faces that he sees time again ain't that familiar
Oh, dark grin
He can't help, when he's happy he looks insane
Even flow, thoughts arrive like butterflies
Oh, he don't know, so he chases them away
Oh, someday yet he'll begin his life again
Life again, life again
Kneelin'
Lookin' through the paper though he doesn't know to read
Oh, prayin'
Now to something that has never showed him anything
Oh, feelin'
Understands the weather of the winter's on its way
Oh, ceilings
Few and far between all the legal halls of shame
Even flow, thoughts arrive like butterflies
Oh, he don't know, so he chases them away
Oh, someday yet he'll begin his life again
Whispering hands gently lead him away
Him away, him away
Yeah, ooh, ah yeah, * it up
Even flow, thoughts arrive like butterflies
Oh, he don't know, so he chases them away
Ah, someday yet he'll begin his life again
Whispering hands gently lead him away
Him away, him away
Yeah, ooh
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
I can see how a song about a homeless Veteran is compared to "dating testosterone filled women"
Wait, no I can't
My thoughts exactly.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Everything's Zen
I don't think so.
*It doesn't actually say anything about the service.
*Something has clearly messed the object of the song up in the head. It may be about someone who didn't want to be coerced into being trafficked and got injured for it.
*How does the name mesh with your theory about what it's about?
Though they may not admit it, I think it's about a person who messed up his mind by becoming addicted to the substances he used to bear being intimidated into being a bimbo. Band members Stone Gossard and Jeff Ament were previously in a band called Mother Love Bone whose vocalist died of a heroin overdose. Proof? No, but then again, there's no apparent sign of a military connection. So we have a faint suggestion it's about someone who got injured while being coerced into being a bimbo, and no indication it's about a veteran from the lyrics or title.
Ed relates a story he says he has never told before. He talks about hanging around the warehouse rehearsing in the very early days and meeting a homeless vet he met named Eddie. Ed would buy him the same sandwich that he bought for himself. He goes on to talk about coming home from a European tour and the man wasn’t there. Ed found out the man was living under the Viaduct which was a relief. “I thought I had lost him.” Not much later the homeless vet died. He never knew that he was part of the next song “Even Flow.” Ed talks a bit about the homeless and how Eddie either didn’t get or wouldn’t take help.
It's plainly understood he's singing about a mentally unstable, homeless person.
Just so happens to be a military veteran.
Maybe you need to talk to someone also? Rock and roll/country/ blues, et al, isn't satan music
But you specifically mentioned dating testosterone filled women. That ain't in there.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
" testosterone filled women"
Is that Ricci's new girl?
Wrinkled Ed relates a story he says he has never told before decades after the song came out. Maybe someone else put together what they were insinuating with their band names and music, and told them they'd better make up a lie?
His choice
This thread is getting a little off the family oriented theme of the forum. Maybe we should ask the mods to pull it. Then again, maybe young people need to know.
Maybe you can point to the lyrical portions that support your assertion.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
I was hoping that angle would be a sideshow.
I think it's implied in the band's name and the band's name which is mentioned in reply 25, Stone Gossard and Jeff Ament's former band. They both imply the members were pressured into being taken advantage of by various segments of the rich and powerful.
It is possible they don't want the music to be too specific but to appeal to a wide range of people who feel pressured by society to do what they'd rather not, so they don't necessarily mention why mr. evenflow has been reduced to the state of a brain damaged homeless man.
It's possible there were threats which made them not want to be too specific so as not to show a problem. Look at the death of the guitarists' former lead singer and the way Axl spent a couple decades in a semi-vegetative state after writing a protest song. Then there's Layne Staley, Kurt Cobain, Shannon Hoon, and more recently, Chris Connell and Scott Weiland.
From a different band in the same genre, STP's "Flies in the Vasoline" implies there are threats. The first line seems to imply they can't think about how to get out of their present life but can only muse about unimportant things that occur to them. And, they're "flies in the vasoline" because stuck. And they say it's all a lie. (" you'll see the look and you'll see the lie....") And, the official video seems to show the singer in a corpse pose suspended over railroad tracks which are flying past underneath his back.
It's implied. They can't show a problem.
I had heard Ian Anderson went from being a guy who cleaned toilets to a homeless person whom some found odd. I don't know if the part about the homelessness is correct but it may be the way society repaid him for his decision to hold out and not let them boycott him into becoming a bimbo, no doubt for the women who had lost husbands in the war.
"Hotel California" may be another early pre-grunge protest song. You can't leave and the line about the captain and the wine may be meant to insinuate the woman in the song isn't so young.
Nirvana's look may have been meant to imply that while they might have been smart guys, they had been held back by society and still dressed like kids, and Kurt wore some old lady's sunglasses. Maybe because they had been consigned to be bimbos and weren't allowed to make any of their own choices. Or maybe the old lady who owned the sunglasses wanted to be in charge and treated them like little kids.
‘Scuse me while I kiss the sky.”
Thanks Rocky, there for a minute I though my reading comprehension was slipping.
Some of those guys might have fled to less oppressive cities from elsewhere so I wouldn't necessarily automatically assume Seattle or San Diego were run by the mafia who traffic all the children to the powerful citizens.
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Yeah, me too......
I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in?
Kurt Cobain was from Aberdeen, Washington. It's just up the coast from Cannon Beach and Seaside. That whole coastline is fun and sun, if your head is screwed on straight. I've camped in Aberdeen and gone out with the fishing fleet over the bar, and it's a stone cold hoot.
Some people just flat refuse to be happy. Everything in life is decisions. You're handed a pile of trouble and what do you do with it? In Cobain's case he made millions milking that angst. In Corrie Ten Boom's case she was sent to a concentration camp and watched her family die, and she came out praising God.
I used to ride the Wa State Ferry into Seattle and Spoonman was a regular passenger on the boat. He was great, and great with the spoons. Soundgarden wrote a song about him and made him famous. Did that change anything in his life? Was he happier? No. Life is all about our decisions and their consequences.
That's a lot of words and a really long winded way to say "I guess I misinterpreted it". Because it ain't in there chief. I grew up on the peninsula and lived in Seattle when Nirvana and Pearl Jam went mainstream. And I am good friends with a gal that was in a class ahead of Cobain in Aberdeen. None of them were singing about testosterone filled women. And you're off the mark about Cobain too. No one was holding him back. He was just a loner/loser outcast that ripped off a musical style from the Pixies and did better with it because they had such talent at drums and bass.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
It's almost as if you hadn't bothered to read anything I wrote. You are on your own page.
Then to top it all off, you somehow decide I'm conceding whatever point you think you have.
They were possibly pressured and trapped into the life. "He was just a loner/loser outcast..." How are you qualified to know?
Maybe it's because his classmates knew he didn't have enough friends, spirituality, or economic worth to avoid being pressured into things like the mafia that made him kind of an outcast.
Just for the record, if he was pressured into providing company and it was your homeys that pressured him, I don't have a problem with that. But I am free to speculate about the meaning of music.
There was a semi-famous band once who chose a name based on their feeling that the life they were pressured or trapped into was halfway to whores.