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Warbirds
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TSA was displeased with me when they found a single 147 grain Speer GoldDot in my carry on bag today. It was in a big pocket where I throw change into the bag.
They kept it, but not me.
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Sounds like a freind that I went to the VA with one time. We were in the parking lot and he asked me to get something out from under the seat that he wanted to take in with him.
I could not count the number of skeet shells he had under the seat. He said he had been skeet shooting the night before and the the shells must have fallen out of the boxes he had taken along for shooting.
Being on federal property I closed the door becuase the VA police were always riding around to just check to make sure no cars were broken into.
The VA police do not have a sense of humor from what I have heard.
Yrs. ago I loaned a car to a good friend who was visiting an Air Force Base. They found a 9mm mag I had misplaced in the car. Luckily he was a retired Lt. Colonel and nothing said. When he arrived back at the house he handed me the mag.
When my daughter was home schooled we arranged a visit with some other home schoolers to take a tour of the State Capitol building. My wife went with her as I had to work. When I got home I was asking how it went and my wife said "It was just like going thru the airport. Guards, metal detectors, X-rays for bags." I asked if she had cleared her purse of all of her "work" items and her face went white. She made the night deposit for work and in doing so carried a handgun. There was no gun in the purse but there were (2) 5 round 44 Special speedloaders in there with 200 grain silvertips. Not sure how they got missed but she did the tour without incident.
Before I fly anywhere I bring my bag(s) to work and run them thru the x-ray scanner just to be sure. I've found an errant round or two on occasion and once a knife I'd forgotten about. I gotta agree (Thousands Standing Around) has no sense of humor.
I mess up slightly one day on my way in to pay my taxes. Before leaving my truck, I dropped my EDC and extra magazine into my lock box....I walked up to the front door and headed toward the metal detector when it struck me I still have my Spyderco on my pocket...The deputy asked me to step forward and I told him my issue and he said put it on the counter..I will give it back when you leave....
The Judicial Center I worked in would keep anything presented or found at the metal detector...so I was happy to hear I would get it back....
Not too long after 9/11 I flew to Missouri for a two day presentation by Browning, Winchester, and some ammo reps. Both days were filled with rifle, handgun and shotgun shooting. When we showed up at the airport for the return trip they used the detection swab to test the luggage when we checked in for our flight. Yup, you guessed it - several of us had a problem. Fortunately I had a lot of documentation that showed what I had been doing and why my suitcase and dirty clothes had gunpowder residue on them. It was a little tense for a half hour or so but both my luggage and I made the flight. Bob
Last time I went thru airport security I had a P38 on my keychain what a uproar that made that was about 15 years ago and I haven't step in a airport since
Before I retired, worked with commercial explosives. No longer have a social life, just live for the TSA searches and pat downs. My computer bag would make their scanner light up like a pinball machine. Everything EXCEPT gunpowder.
TSA- Take Scissors Away
I had a favorite SOG assisted opening knife, a Trident, that they issue to the reup flyboys here. It was in the side pocket of my Carhartts and I had a hurry-up business trip. So I raced home, packed my backpack quickly and raced to the airport. I went through security and the guy says "Uh oh".
"Huh?" sez me, I never travel with so much as a pair of fingernail clippers. Then I saw the xray outline... lying sideways, bottom of the backpack. My Carhartts. $^%&*$%^&@$^%!@#%$!!!!!!!!
They pulled me aside and unloaded my backpack... unrolled the jeans and there was my Trident. I swore long and quietly and fluently with unusual and obscure profanity in several languages. He pulled it out, looked it over and said "Oh that's a nice one". I told him "Merry Christmas" and he grinned and said something about the perks of the job.
ARGH.
I'm glad you're still on the correct side of the prison bars Dave.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
they took my fake bullet off my keychain in Mobile and i have never seen it since.
Served on jury duty in 2019 at the County courthouse…had to pass through metal detectors and scanners. At lunchtime I reached in my backpack to get my news paper and felt my Medium-size Spyderco folder. Uh oh. Left it there and carried out the pack at the end of the day. No idea how they could have missed it, but I certainly felt less safe in the courthouse after that.
25 years as a LEO & carried everywhere. Retire & the next day they treat you like a criminal for a pocketknife.
Yep, it is a major bummer when everybody (even the "special folks") are treated like a criminal.
Welcome to our world. Sucks. Right?
Had to go into the local Social Security Office a couple of years ago. They have a officer at the door who asks if you are carrying a gun knife or any other weapon. I told him, "No, I know how * you folks are!". He just smiled and cleared me through. Figured my Smart A%^& answer would get me searched or banned.
Um, you mean treated like a citizen?
You were not entitled to additional rights because you were an LEO. I suppose that is for another thread.
I worked as an LEO to protect your wellbeing & rights. Being retired doesn't mean I wouldn't help you now. Your welcome.
Not sure about other courts, but, if we're not too busy, we're more than happy to scan bags for you before ya head to the airport. As to what you may/may not be carrying, our unwritten policy is "...we don't care what you have, just don't bring it in. Please take it back outside."
I thought retired LEO's could still carry.
Check out this website Toolman; https://www.policechiefmagazine.org/qualified-retired-officer-firearm-credentials/
HELLO GITMO ............................................. 😀
You are a United States Citizen.
I am a United States Citizen.
What you have done or still do is irrelevant to your rights. Contrary to popular belief of some, a “right” is not earned in the same fashion as a girl scout merit badge.
Your Welcome.
I guess you earned the girl scout merit badge for grammar.
Did it come with any extra rights?
Thank you Dano, I stand corrected.
You're also right Sam06. Unfortunately, the new Dumbocratic regime in Va has made the application process very difficult. I guess they didn't hear that their hero O'Bama endorsed it.
My original post was not meant to be detrimental to citizens. It was to bring up that one day you're trusted & then the next, you're not.
Warbirds said : "a “right” is not earned in the same fashion as a girl scout merit badge."
Warbirds, If you think being in the military or law enforcement or EMT or Fire & Rescue is the same as being in the Girl Scouts, then you need to rethink your position.
I don’t think military or public service is the same as being in the girl scouts.
I was in the Navy for 10 years and a nationally registered EMT for 3 years and its how I made a living during that time.
Guess what?
I think it makes me the same as any other US citizen. I don’t think it entitles me to any special treatment, perhaps that is where we disagree, which is fine.
That position is not the root cause of my frustration. If US citizens were not so willing to give away their rights en-mass we wouldn’t even be in a position to discuss this as an issue.
I spent 25 years in the Army - M16s, M60s, M249s, and M2s.
It was OK then, but not now.
Retirement = the level between what you could do then . . . and what you can't do now.
Quote from Warbirds; That position is not the root cause of my frustration. If US citizens were not so willing to give away their rights en-mass we wouldn’t even be in a position to discuss this as an issue.
Sadly now days, I have been seeing the word "Comrade" being used in various places instead of the word "Citizen" Heaven help us all!
At least it wasn't a 40 S&W. That would have been embarrassing.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
I was also in the military...........it did give me some privileges post service, but not any rights. Rights are God-given. The right to self defense is God-given. The Founding Father's felt so strongly about it, that they enumerated it as TWO.........Behind the right to free speech and assembly and all of what that entails. Of course, they could not foresee the development of firearms from then to now, but here we are. And the right of the people to defend themselves personally and collectively shall not be abridged per the Constitution. That means that we should all be able to Constitutionally carry and the ownership of MSRs should be no big deal. MSR (2021) : Muzzle loading rifle (1776).
Anybody remember those comparisons from the SAT?