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He Shot A State Trooper, Faces No Charges
nunn
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It appears that at least one state trooper is an idiot with an anger problem
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Maybe so, but I'd still like to read the trooper's incident report.
Neal
Too bad he didn't hit him in the melon.
If the facts presented in the article are correct the grand jury got it right. Nowhere did it state the troopers reason for wanting them to pull over so some details are lacking. Why didn't they call 911 while they thought they were being chased during what they thought was a road rage incident? If the incident is still under investigation, why was it already presented to the grand jury? Does this trooper have any past record of questionable actions?
I hate news articles that leave a lot of questions unanswered, but if the few facts presented were correct I probably would have reacted the same way the guy from Fort Worth did. Bob
Yep. Sounds like a lot of strange behavior from a trooper. That guy could have been me, save for the fact I don't think I would have shot through the door. That part bothers me.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
I had the same reservations about shooting through the door but since he believed the person pounding on the door was hostile and armed I can see not presenting an easy target by opening the door. I do hope he was knowledgeable about any other homes or passersby that may have been in the line of fire. Bob
I also probably wouldn't have called 911 while driving. Maybe that's on his wife, but it's a fair guess she was a bit too panicked to think about doing that. I dunno. Stress makes people not think of everything they should do.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
zero dark hundred one summer day I was on the way to work. I was about a mile out of town when I noticed a vehicle coming up really fast from behind me. I slowed down to the speed limit but when they caught up they didn't pass. They followed me like this for several miles. I blew through a small town without slowing down, still no red lights and I was sure it was a lunatic. Eventually I had a chance to pass someone just as the passing zone was ending, then the lights came on. The State trooper denied that he had seriously exceeded the speed limit to catch up with me and that he had then behaved badly by following too close and not passing. He gave me a warning for speeding.
I have to agree with the Gran Jury too.
As a native Texan, state troopers drive distinctive marked cars and so do most all PD and if they are in traffic enforcement, they all wear uniforms or should.
IMHO, the state trooper should have had local uniformed FT Worth police with him when he went to the plaintiffs residence and I am certain state procedures mandated local PD involvement. The plaintiffs behavior was not felonious.
I bet that Trooper is looking for a new job.
I don't like unmarked cars doing traffic stops. Anyone can install a set of light behind a grill. If someone installs regular police markings and top mounted lights their not going to get by for very long as a real LEO is going to notice somethings wrong and ask what's up. But someone with lights behind the grill may go on for quite awhile.
Go back a few years here in our local area there was a man with grill mounted lights in his pickup pulling women over and trying to rape women.
I agree completely. These unmarked cars are like traffic cameras, their after our money in fines.
I fully agree. I told everyone in my family to NEVER stop for an unmarked car. I told them: "If the driver is a legitimate police officer, and if he legitimately needs you to stop, he can have a marked unit come and assist. I would MUCH rather pay an attorney and/or a bail bondsman than a funeral director."
I don't believe I would have shot through the door. Sure, I know there is a person out there who can do me harm, but I don't know who or what else is there that I might harm. Also, that door is a physical barrier between me and my antagonist, and as long as it is intact, I'll wait for the gendarmes to arrive and deal with him. Now, if rounds start coming through the door from outside, I may have to rethink my position.
During my career as a peace officer, and as a CHL instructor, I had many occasions to inform people about their rights and responsibilities regarding self-defense. I never recommended removing a physical barrier in order to engage an opponent. Leave the door closed, but if it breaks or comes open, then do what you must to defend yourself. It could be hard to convince a jury that you were in fear for your life if you opened the door in order to engage.
Shooting through the door is not something I would do without a dang good reason. But then I'm fairly handy with a shooting iron and know what I can do if that door is compromised. But everyone is not that schooled with their firearm or confident enough to wait for the door to bust open.