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Benelli is a joke
SCOUT5
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Advertise like they are the best, make a web site and leave out important information. Such as the weight of the shotgun. If the information is on the site it's to hard to find. If I ran the place I would be questioning what the company money was spent on if the product (the web site) we paid for 1) Doesn't have actual specs 2) makes the potential customer dig and work to find what is there 3) has overly repetitive hype and BS at the expense of real information.
I did finally find what choke tubes it came with, it has a shim kit, hard case and comfort tech stock. But no where can I find the weight.
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I was trying to look up this gun: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/908900456
You can get one with a 24" barrel. I've decided I don't care that much about shooting 3 1/5 shells as performance doesn't live up to the hype. Beside I have a Mossberg 935 that can handle those on the rare occasion I may want to shoot them. So I am doing a check list on 12 ga semi-auto shotguns that I might want to carry bird hunting. Looking at.
Fabarm Initial Hunter
Franchi Affinity Elite (now owned by Benelli but actually list specs on the web site)
But neither of these have 24" barrels models available that I can find.
The M2 Benelli can be bought with a 24" barrel.
I have plenty of bird guns but not a 12ga semi-auto that is lite enough to make me want to carry it. When you are riding around with other people and hunting several different kinds of stuff a 12ga is handy as you can loan or bum ammo if it's needed and you have enough gun for what ever comes up. We may go from shooting grouse to shooting cranes, or geese because we see the opportunity.
My primary bird gun for the past 20+ years has been an Ithaca pump. Last year I tried some others and really like the 28ga semi-auto but due to situations like the above the 28ga is not the gun to take when you are riding with someone else. I can keep another shotgun in my truck but like to be minimal when riding with someone else.
Oh well I was looking at the Benelli and I'll get my question answered another way but am aggravated that their web site didn't answer it.
Their website shows it weighs 7lbs.
You have to scroll to the right in the specs menu.
I found a ton of info under specs,,, yes scroll right.
WOW! thanks! I guess I am computer illiterate. On my screen there are no arrows and anything that show I can scroll left or right there. I didn't think to just try it to see if it worked. Certainly not intuitive for me. But there it is, 7 pounds. Not as bad as the 8+ pounds of the Mossberg and the 1100.
I appreciate the help. That doesn't keep me from being pissed at Benelli for making me work for it.
...you just needed to clam down,,,,
My software may not be right for the site. The site isn't very user friendly compared to some others and some areas are hard to even see. Some of the ammunition sites are like that. You know the information is there but the computer engineers that set it up are games players or something and can't get in the head of an old geezer with a 15 year old machine and less than expert computer savvy.
I got one of those M2's with the 21" barrel (#11026, 6.9 lbs) and added an 8 round mag tube to it. That gun eats anything you feed it and asks for more. Mine weighs in at 9 pounds when fully loaded with 00 buck (9 rounds) according to the bathroom scale.
It's one of those 'cry once' items.
Well if nothing has changed in the last few years; wait till you need customer service from Benelli.
In the same price range the Browning Silver is worth looking at. It fits me better than the Benelli
Benelli makes a great shotgun but like all inertia shotguns they do kick a bit more than a comparable gas gun. I have been curious about the Retay line of shotguns. They seem to get good reviews but I have never had one in my hands to check out. They make a 24" 12ga that is listed as a turkey gun but comes with 5 choke tubes so can be used as an all around shotgun. It is only 6.5 lbs and that may be a bit light for a inertia gun because the felt recoil might be a bit unpleasant. I guess if I was going to carry it all day and only shoot it a few times, then I guess I could put up with the extra kick. Bob
Try a Winchester SX3...
Those are also very nice. A couple of my buddies have 'em.
@SCOUT5
If its any consolation-I just went to Remington’s website and I was totally unable to find “870” as if the world’s most common shotgun does not exist at all.
Gun people no longer run gun companies.
I know your comment was regarding their site, not the brand necessarily, but I find Benelli to be the absolute best shotgun for my wants and needs. I liked the balance and especially the weight. Due to not having a gas system under the forearm, they were thinner in that area as well. I knew that lighter weight would make recoil rougher on those 3.5", but I wouldn't mind carrying it all day upland hunting. I could deal with the recoil when goose season in Canada called. On average, I find Benelli's to be lighter than other similar shotguns that are gas operated.
Back in the early 90's, I heard about this semi-auto shotgun that could shoot 2.75", 3", and 3.5" mags in any order, without adjustment. I made the 5 hour round trip to go and hold an HK import Super Black Eagle. The operating system is incredibly simple. It is also one of the things I like about the gun, there is nothing really to get dirty from normal shooting. I knew right there I was going to get one even though I didn't have the $1k to buy it then. I started to scrimp and save until I finally had enough and I went and picked it up ~1994 and I LOVED it. The thing would feed anything except the light 7/8 oz loads. It would feed the el-cheapo Walmart stuff as long as it was 1 oz dram or above. As mentioned above, the inertia system has more recoil than a gas system. I am not sure the recoil is really harder, but I think it has a quicker recoil impulse instead of a longer shove of a gas gun. Kind of like the difference between shooting a .45 ACP and a .40 S&W or weak 10mm auto.
At the time, I had a shotgun for waterfowl, one for skeet/trap, another for rising birds, another for dove, etc. But, it seemed with every season change, it would take me a bit to start hitting accurately again with the different gun. As I started using the SBE for more and more seasons, I realized I didn't have that early season "fall off" between seasons and even became a better shot over all. I slowly started selling off my other shotguns until the only other one I had left was a Remington 1100 in .410.
In the late 2000's, money was finally good so I started collecting the various models of them. I first started with only the HK imported ones such as the M1T and two of the M3T folders. I also bought a barrel set so now I have 24", 26", and 28" barrels for the SBE as well as a 24" slug barrel with the required modified forearm. I mounted a 2x7x32 Leupold SLAM scope on removable mounts. Just in the past few years, I've branched into the gas operated M4's as well. I have one of the very rare NIB 11711 NP3 H2O models, as well as one built the same way but in black. I also bought my wife a Montefeltro 20 gauge which she has become a great shot with. I think my next one will be a 28 gauge Ethos. Though I have a pair of the gas M4's, I still greatly prefer the inertia system.
There are now a lot of inertia knock-offs. Some are supposedly OK, but note that even the apparent clones largely do not have interchangeable parts with the Benelli branded items.
I like mine......
I bought an Ethos a few months back and I'm sad to say I haven't fired it yet. But I do know ,now, to put the barrel on the receiver in a horizontal position. Doing it vertically leads to the chances of the barrel contacting the receiver and going right through the finish. Yeah, it left a nice shiny little nick. Easy to see too. Like it was hit with a small chisel.