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The most stupid talking point....
mohawk600
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EVER.
Biden and Harris along with all the "tools" in their administration keep talking about vaccinating the unvaccinated to PROTECT THE VACCINATED.
Wait.......isn't the vaccine supposed to be protection enough so that I don't have to worry?
The rhetorical circles being spewed by this idiot president and his sycophants is about to make my head explode.
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So the argument I keep running into from the forced vaxxers is that the they're not "sterilizing" vaccines (mainly because the virus keeps mutating extremely quickly the more we let it spread without non-pharmaceutical interventions of source control: masks, ventilation, filtration, UVC, etc.). The mRNA vaccines reduce the spread by (1) reducing viral load, (2) shortening duration of contagiousness, and (3) reducing mutations. You need other NPIs to "stop" the spread.
Of course this is utter nonsense, but that is their take on it.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
They can’t tell how long it lives on hard or soft surfaces.
They can’t tell us at what ambient temperatures it dies.
They can’t tell us how far it travels in the air.
Why should I believe anything they say?
Then the final announcement... The newest mutated variety isn't good against any vaccine, in fact the ones vaccinated die first. but don't worry the April 15th tax deadline will be extended for the survivors
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
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I thought good old Kamala was going to refuse the Trump vaccine. Didn't she say that on national T.V. during the campaign? Seems like they need to ban her from Twitter for misinformation
I'll say it again, " Out of a population of over 320 million people, these are the best we can come up with for leaders?" Bob
Out of all those spermatozoa, the cackling hyena and gropin' joe were the fastest.
Seems like not long ago we were told that duct tape and gas masks would get us through a nuclear attack.
I'm pretty sure the same idiots are in charge.
A few faces may have changed, but the insane are still running the asylum.
Gregor62, I'm so old that I remember sheltering under my grade school desk during a nuke drill.
I do too Jeff, the difference is that when this happened, there was a run on gas masks and duct tape, much like the recent toilet paper and ammo insanity.
Proof positive that the sheep are willing to jump. They just need some moron to say when.
We sheltered under the desk also . We lived next to the number two target on the east coast . After I got old enough to understand it all I wondered how much good anyone thought that would do
When they come up with a vaccine to protect me against Biden and the DEMOCRATs bull* and lies, I will be the first in line.,
Riddle me this. How does covid KNOW to mutate to AVOID vaccines?! Oh wait.......I know how. Because it mutated IN THE VACCINATED! Yes some viruses mutate, but they cannot mutate to avoid something they have NEVER encountered. So the vaccine resistant mutations came from a VACCINATED person. Simple science, but the "science" and "my body my choice" crowd forget all the talking points when it comes to the virus.
I am NOT saying all the varients were because people were "vaccinated", just the vaccine resistant ones.
PS.......Am I the only one that noticed the CDC changed the definition of vaccine the other day? Instead of provides "immunity" now it says provides "protection"! They had to change the HISTORICAL def of vaccine to make these new "vaccines" well, vaccines instead of shots!
The common cold, which is in the same family as COVID-19, mutates without being exposed to vaccinated people, how does that happen? Virus mutate to survive better based on what the host is throwing at it. This virus is new to human host, of course it mutates to defend itself against human antibodies and defenses. Understanding the human immune system and how diseases mutate is far from simple science. The virus would mutate in the absence of a vaccine. The vaccine triggers the human immune system to build defenses against a targeted virus it doesn't fight the virus on it's own.
Yes, the rhetoric the white house is putting out is BS. Get vaccinated to protect the vaccinated. Maybe early on, if the impossible had happened and every human on the planet got vaccinated on the same day using a vaccine effective against all the virus strains present that day the virus would have been defeated, maybe. I doubt it, but it doesn't matter as that's impossible anyway. It's also impossible to contain this thing as it is in the environment now.
The issue of the the president issuing mandates is an issue we can do something about. Dealing with tyrannic government control is our fight. The virus will become a side note.
Yes but a mutation to defeat a VACCINE cannot happen without vaccinations. Viruses DO mutate but they do not evolve to mutate vaccines without seeing AND surviving that vaccine! Antibiotic resistance bacteria were caused by people taking antibiotics and it NOT stopping the virus. That virus learned how to defeat that antibiotic!! That is why Drs are more hesitant to give antibiotics, it increases the likely hood of developing a resistant bacteria!!
Mutations, and vaccine avoiding mutations are apples and oranges!
Deer that have NEVER seen humans are NOT afraid of humans. Only the ones that survive a bad encounter are afraid and they teach their young the same!
Same principle with "vaccine resistant" mutations!
Viruses and bacteria are mutating or evolving continuously. The ones that survive in an environment go on to multiply and those that can't survive die out. Contrary to the terms the media pundits use there is no learning involved, rather it is nothing more than the survival of the fittest. If you have a billion viruses in your system and the vaccine enables your immune system to kill 99% of them that still leaves a lot that hopefully are benign mutations. If you don't kill that 99% the mutations will still be there though, benign or not. Vaccines and antibiotics can accelerate the dominant prevalence of viruses or bacteria but it is a hard call not to use the treatments. Do we let grandma die from the virus or a bacterial infection because we are afraid of maybe creating a resistant disease? I am not sure what the answer is but I certainly don't trust any politician to come up with any intelligent thoughts on this subject. Bob
I am staying the FACT that neither a virus nor bacteria can mutate to avoid something that it NEVER encountered.
Vaccine resistant covid 19 is a DIRECT result of a mutation in a VACCINATED person!
YES it will/has mutated regardless if vaccines. BUT the mutation that developed to AVOID the vaccine came from the VACCINATED.
I say this to contradict the LIE that unvaccinated are causing covid to mutate. It will mutate in vaccinated AND unvaccinated BUT can only develop resistance to vaccines by mutating in vaccinated people.
Same with antibiotics! That's why it's so important to take ALL the doses prescribed. If you dont kill ALL the bacteria, then that bacteria CAN develop a mutation to avoid that antibiotic NEXT time.
Covid "vaccines" do NOT kill the virus and it WILL mutate to avoid the vaccine in the future.
Again, vaccines do not attack the virus, the immune system does. Antibiotics attack bacteria by various mechanisms assisting the body's immune system which also attacks the bacteria. If bacteria are not completely killed and some survives the antibiotic therapy antibiotic resistance may start. The human body also has the ability to adapt to fight invading organisms, some fairly quickly and others that can take many generations. The body has to produce the right cells to fight each invading organism. Vaccines jump start that process as the body has to be exposed before it knows what to build and vaccines are the exposure giving the body a head start.
The vaccine is a tool to fight this stuff, just a tool. It is doing what it it designed to do. I recommend people get vaccinated unless there is a medical reason not to. But that is an individual choice. The government mandating vaccination is a different matter than if you should get vaccinated and all the arguments that go along with that.
BTW, I also recommend people do not dive into shallow pools of water or water that hasn't been checked for rocks and stuff. I've seen quite a few broken necks from diving accidents. I recommend people practice firearm safety, do no drive at unsafe speeds, don't do drugs, don't drink to much and don't smoke cigarettes.
At best, these "vaccines" are symptom deterrents, MAYBE! The new buzzword is "breakthrough cases". What does that even mean? The virus "broke through" what, exactly? The covid "shot" is just that, a SHOT!! The flu "SHOT" is, on average, 40% effective, supposedly. I haven't seen ANY public service announcements promoting the flu shot at a time when we're usually inundated with them.
The numbers coming out of the "scientific community are wild jazz guesses and completely subjective.
Search "fraud cases" against Pfizer, Maderna and J&J and see how much they've paid in fines over the last decade. DJT let the foxes in the henhouse!!
" It is doing what it it designed to do."
Drinking too much kool aid can lead to diabetes! Just sayin!
What it was designed to do changes with the wind, just like their definition of vaccine! Change it as they go so it still fits their talking points!
All life evolves. Virus evolve quickly for a lot of reasons, but one is that their life cycle is very short.
When they mandate fetal vaccines to change the embryo's DNA in the womb to create Covid resistant humans, will they have to wait until a heartbeat is detected in Texas?
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I'll say it again, " Out of a population of over 320 million people, these are the best we can come up with for leaders?" Bob
AMEN to the above statement by Bob.
That is what I've been saying also.
Really a shame. (and we have seen repeats of such which is also, well you know)