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electric vehicle mileage
MIKE WISKEY
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a friend sent this;
commercial charging station $.32 per min. (that's $19.20 per hr.)
full charge takes about 8 hrs....that's $153.60
most elecric vehicles get about 350 miles per full charge...that's $.44 per mile
a Ford F-350 pulling a horse trailer gets BETTER milage
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Mike that is going around the internet and is not true. My brother has a Tesla and he charges it at home with 200 miles of travel for 15 bucks.
At a Tesla charging station a full charge is about $30. Charging the Tesla is, in fact, much cheaper than a tank full of gasoline.
MOST EVs do NOT get 350 miles. Most EVs get less than 200 miles per charge.
I do agree the other numbers seem to be off too. Its probably closer to $45 to charge at a public charger.
BUT the reduced price per "full" charge still doesnt compare to a gas/diesel vehicle, since they get way more miles per tank. Have to charge most EVs TWICE to reach the same miles as a diesel truck!
You save a TINY amount driving an EV, but you also have to wait 2 hours or more to charge it(way more on smaller non commercial chargers).
EVs are still novelty items! Nice to have IF you can afford one, but also NOT practical for MOST people.
A friend moved to SD with his Tesla. Winter temperatures cut range down to 100 miles for a fully charged batter.
Don't forget that charging EVs at night.............which has been suggested by Sec of TRANS Buttig............and every other "greenie"....... uses coal fired power...................hey, the sun doesn't shine at night..............and the wind don't hardly blow then.
Nevermind the cost to the environment of disposing those evironmentally friendly but highly toxic batteries and solar panels..........their life is short............and don' even talk about the tendency to burst into flames...........
Yup................go green.............
Advertised range sounds great but what is it with the a/c on in the summer and heater on in the winter?
It has to be true, I saw it on FB ...🤣
Call NASCAR... they have EV racing soon. The Duracell 150, The RayoVac 172, Indy black out 221
"I do agree the other numbers seem to be off too." Ya think?
The numbers are off by 500 percent. I have been with my brother when he charged up at a Tesla supercharger. 35 minutes for a 200 mile charge. Cost $30. This was on I 40 near Hickory.
I know a little about home charging because I installed my brother's 220 charging station. At home, he gets 23 miles per one hour of charging, and gets 200 miles for 15 bucks.
I concede to you that the cost per mile for charging the Tesla at a Supercharger is roughly the same as paying for gasoline. Charging at home, the Tesla is much cheaper per mile.
There is misleading info about the range of the Tesla, some of it put out by Tesla. My brother's car as listed has a range of 300 miles. This is IF you charge up the battery to 100 percent. However, if you constantly charge to 100 percent, it will damage the battery. You are a fool to charge to 100 percent. My brother goes with the safe charge and he can go 220 miles.
However, that day we drove to Hickory it was 93 degrees. Running a/c cuts the range drastically, and we only could go 140 miles. Yes on a hot day, max range 140 miles. And had to stop for a 35 minute charge.
They had some good hot dogs and iced tea at that gas station. That was a long "fillup" and I am not a patient man. Did have good a/c in the gas station, though, nice and cool in there.
The Tesla is unfit for long trips.
But, for a 47 mile trip on the Blue Ridge Parkway in October to go to the top of Mt. Mitchell to look at the autumn leaves, it is a great car. Fun to drive and powerful!
I keep saying this...EV's will not be practical until they are designed to use instantly replaceable batteries just like your drill is. And those won't be lithium ion, either. They might be lithium iron phosphate to begin with, transitioning to sulfur-based batteries eventually.
You won't park and wait for a charge (although charging stations will still be found for convenience) but on long trips, you'll simply exchange for a fully-charged batt and be off again. Plug in at night or while you're in the store; exchange batteries while on trips.
The electric car has been around for as long as the internal combustion engine and it has roughly the same problems now as in the beginning, range and infrastructure. Electric vehicles aren't exactly known for reliability and there's is very little in the way of service centers for them. The LI-ON batteries are prone to catch fire and once going are difficult to put out. The charging issue is another problem. If I'm on a cross country trip I'd rather spend 5 minutes tanking up my car and be on my way rather than waiting 30 minutes to untold hours to proceed.
Winter is a battery killer, summers little better, and frankly I think this whole climate change thing is "BS"!!! If anyone has been paying attention they would find that the Paris Climate Accord is a non-binding agreement with no enforcement mechanism. The worst polluters on the planet get a pass until 2030 and then only have to try to curb their emissions, they don't have to accomplish anything. The greatest source of green house gas comes from water evaporation and there isn't a thing anyone on the planet can do about it since more than 70%+ of the planet is covered in water.
...I really wouldnt care if I got 300 miles for every hour of charging, I'll never own an electric pick-up...I plug in coffee pots and toasters, not trucks...I really like the sound of gas engines, especially with headers...can you imagine going to the drags and hearing a 'hhhh-mmmmm' as two cars run the 1/4...
Many people could go to grocery stores , P.O., Library , work commute , Schools on a golf cart.
Each fracking well wastes from 1m to 9m gallons of water per year.
Still a little more work to do to get them right https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/07/corvette-e-ray-prototype-burns-to-the-ground-in-spain/
Somehow to have to include the high initial cost of the vehicle.
And disposal of used up batteries, might end up worse than coal ash.
The lithium extraction process uses a lot of water—approximately 500,000 gallons per metric ton of lithium.
The Environmental Impact of Lithium Batteries - IER (instituteforenergyresearch.org)
Brother's Tesla, two years ago cost $65K. Some Teslas are cheaper, some cost much more. He has a lot of miles on it and hasn't had any problems, he loves that car.
I am disappointed
as a kid by now we should be like this
by the way from what I have read the people (who have a crap load of time and do such things ) have figured out July 31 2022 is George Jetsons birthday
The Jetsons iconic father figure George Jetson was officially brought into the word on July 31, 2022 — so the internet says.
Twitter has been circulating with claims that Jetson was officially born on July 31. But is this true?
Well, the show aired in 1962 but takes place 100 years into the future, making their fictional universe 2062. In the show, Jetson claims he is 40, meaning he would have had to been born in present time, 2022.
Figure this into the equation. I’m taking a trip and after 200 miles I stop to recharge, and it takes a couple of hours to charge. I doubt I’ll just stop and stand there watching the car charge, I’ll be in a store, bar or some where spending money. Just saying it all adds up.
When I was a kid that is what we were lead to believe. That, and the nuclear power would provide electricity so cheaply that electric meters on houses wouldn't even be required. Yeah, right. Nuclear electricity is among the most expensive ways to produce a kilowatt of power.
When I think about the billions of $$$ spent on that lie...
Like i said.....they are novelty items!
Unless one can "fill up" with electricity in less time than peeing, getting a few lottery tickets and Slim Jim long distance EV trips are still pipe dreams.
can you imagine the family road trip, every few hundred miles turning the kids loose to scream and run amock for two hours, these charging station/stores will be nothing but big babysitting stores for screaming heathens...........
Just imagine,
you are behind the wheel of your shiny new Tesla. All controls are run off the touch-screen computer. How many miles left in the tank, speedometer, windshield wipers, a/c, everything run off the computer screen
Would it be politically incorrect to name an NFL team the "Screaming Heathens"? Sounds good to me.😉
And you have to take your eyes off the road to read and use the screen. I laugh when I get the really stupid message on the screen in my Acadia that says, "Taking your eyes off of the road can be dangerous". Of course you have to look at the screen to read it. With self driving cars that won't make much of a difference, I guess. 🙄 Bob
Like the sign-"Free literacy classes"
That might be how it will work, but it sure as heck won't be any time soon, considering that the size of the battery bank for current vehicles. Where is some outfit going to store all these car chassis sized battery banks?
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Get the US hooked on EV and then China drops an EMP we'll be partying like if it was 1889
Asia has streets filled with millions of electric mopeds. 4x 12v batteries 500w cost $150. the set replaced yearly or 2-5 years depending on use. low weight =low cost.
An EMP would destroy ALL gas/diesel vehicles too! They ALL depend on sophisticated electronics! Only the older vehilces would be immune, or at least repairable after an EMP. Most of those were crushed by Obamas cash for clunkers program. 🥺
That's true. I used to have a 1982 Mercedes 240 D with a stick. Mechanical fuel injection. This is one of the few vehicles that would still run after an EMP. If the electric surge fried the battery, you could roll start it.
Hopefully. IF it doesnt have a coil for the spark! I have a 87 yota pickup, spare coil in faraday cage. I can make it run without the emmisions cpu.
Electric motors are not nearly as costly to produce VS. internal combustion engines and they run for years.
Summation; Electric cars are NOT the issue. All Trains run on electric motors, they have massive torque to get things going in a go fast hurry, the generators to run the electric motors are DIESEL. The issue is STORAGE of ENERGY. The current batteries are great for daily commuters but the mining of minerals, manufacturing, disposal and life of them is the issue. Until we get storage of energy close to the energy potential of gasoline or Diesel it is all for naught. Until we make about 100 new nuclear plants to power electric vehicles none of it matters except to Grennies and politicians trying to get re elected.
That pretty much sums it up.
And an EMP will destroy them.