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Took my car hauler in and had 4 new Goodyear endurance tires installed the other day. They are made in the USA.. and rated for a higher speed than the chinese ones. After the install the service man looked at my tires and told me... Looks like you need some tires .. I replied I know... they are the best Goodyear truck tires made E range and have the kevlar belts ..however their 60k mile warranty is useless... the tires have 23k mile and will need replaced very soon. They will pro rate for some new shoes. Any suggestions on a 4wd street/ off road tire?
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my mechanic just talked me into a set of Falklans, the tread was a little rougher than I really wanted but he said he had them on his truck and they didn't make any noise. He was RIGHT, they are as quiet as a street tire and I think he said they had a 50,000 mile warranty, but it is just like you said about worthless as warranties go. He had about 30,000 on his and they still had around half tread or so left and it was about $850. out door for all four, mounted and balanced.....
I liked them so much I got a set for the wifes suv with a little less aggresive tread and they came with a 70,000 mile waranty, we shall see how they hold up. factory had uniroyals on both my truck and her suv and they didn't make it but about 40,000 miles on each vehicle, hers were closer to $600 for all 4...
...Ive only bought Michelin for the last 25 years...for Suburban, 4x4 Utility, 1/2 ton PU, 3/4 ton PU...I wont jinx myself and say how many flat tires Ive ever had over that time, but it can be counted on one finger...dont plan on buying any other brand in the future, Michelin tires have held up for me...
K02 is hard to beat.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
285/70R17 - 33 inch Mickey Thompson Baja Boss MT is what I put on my Jeep a couple months ago. Only complaint on them is they pick up and throw rocks just as bad as BFG AT KO2's they replaced. They also come in an AT tread that is just as deep as the MT's with a little more siping.
Michelins are good street tires but I cant find any with a more aggressive tread . BF Goodrich came on the truck and lasted 28k mile till 2 of them came apart..one had a big bubble on the sidewall. Glad that didn't happen on the way home from New Mexico. The goodyears are worn out 3/32 left in 23k mile. Most likely will go back with the K0 2
I've had GREAT luck with Hankook Dynapro At2 tires, if they make em in your size. I have the XL version. I liked em so much, I put them on a second vehicle. Very quite, ride great, not terrible expensive, and they do good in light mud use. They are great for occasional 4x4 use, but they aren't mud tires.
Let's see, I bought a new set of COOPER winter tires for my work pickup 4 years ago. That's the first and only new tires I've bought for a decade. Primarily farm use vehicles are shod with TreadWright remans. My work pickup runs through summer on Cooper highway tread standard load bought as high tread used from an ebay seller. No real warranty but I can't even remember back far enough to recall having received a worthwhile adjustment on a tire failure on a locally purchased NEW tire.
I’ve had great use from Toyo tires. Had them on several trucks and got long life from them. Also have had great use from Dean Tires(now owned by Cooper). My Frontier has Deans on it now(came with it when I bought it) and have used Dean’s on cars in the past.
I have had Michelins on the diesel Silverado for all it's 200K miles. No regrets.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
Falken Wildpeak AT3 or Goodrich KO2.
Both great tires
" Any suggestions on a 4wd street/ off road tire?"
Be real honest when you answer the following question. How much time do you actually spend 'off road'? Everyone thinks they need an 'off road' tire, maybe 5% or less actually do. I'd suggest an all season type tire. I use these on my GMC 2500HD and love 'em.
Granted, down there in SC you're not likely to find a Les Schwab tire store...
Stopped by the tire store... man read the tire depths with a hand held device.. 3/32 on three and 2/32 on one. Went with BF K02's ... he gave me 148 dollar credit for each of my tires..... and they had a 110 online discount to purchase the BF k02's... getting them installed Friday
Sounds like a good deal to me, assuming they didn't add $700 to the front end first!
Good choice.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
I only buy Michelin LTX M/S after the tires that came with the vehicle are done, never wore a set of Michelins out.
I like the MS (mud and snow) Michelins because they ride smooth like a car tire and they are the best on wet roads (got a lot of wet in Florida).
My 2018 Silverado is just about at the new tire stage now ............. time to start getting prices
"never wore a set of Michelins out."
Either you don't drive enough or you sell/wreck vehicles too much :) 😁
Michelin does make good tires, but like all tires they do wear out. I got about 65k out of last Michelins, have about 30k on hankooks now, more than half tread left(also half price)
I have sold only abut 30,000 tires over the last few years, here is some truism's
1) Aggressive treads, like mudder tires will not last with primarily highway use. The higher the speeds, the bigger the loads the less mileage you will get. The first 25% will be gone in a flash.
2) It is HEAT that destroys tire rubber, tire inflation even 2-5 pounds low builds heat and wears out tires a lot faster. So does fast cornering, aggressive acceleration and heavy loads.
3) Tire rotation, do it every 5-7.5K miles or buy tires more often.
4) There is a HUGE difference between a tire wear warranty and a tire wear rating, be aware of the difference and if they are warrantied you better document the rotation and pressures or they will say tough luck. The life rating, traction, temperature and tread wear come from the fellers that make that tire, there is no industry wide standard except DOT.
5) Michelin is a premium brand, you pay a lot for the name. Bridgestone/ Firestone and Continental/General are also premium tires at a more competitive price, Cooper/Mastercraft can also be considered Tier one tires. I run my truck with heavy loads 1,000-1,250 miles a week. I ran Michelin for 350,000 miles I got about 60,000 miles out of a set. They are great. I now run Firestone Transforce AT2's and they last, drum roll please, about 60,000 miles a set and are 70 bucks each less costly.
6) EVERY SINGLE major manufacturer has some of their tires made in Thailand, India, China and even Vietnam. You need to make sure the tire you are getting is made where you feel comfortable. But, rubber trees do not grow in the USA, all rubber in American made tires is imported along with over 1/2 the steel used in them.
4... They took care of the rotations... They gave me back $590 67% of original cost of the GoodYears... Plus they had a $110 BFG online discount..that the salesman took off at the store... I don't even pay tire disposal..
Where are BF Goodrich KO2 tires created? At New York, the main headquarters of Goodrich, they have their production plant in upstate New York that’s a really large centre with over 1500 workers. It manufactures different brands of high performance tires like Goodyear, Dunlop, Pirelli, Maximus, and Bridgestone.
One of the other things I like about them.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Michelin has plants in SC... I have 4 of their Pilot Sport S run flats on my Corvette
Perelli is owed by * Tire of China (Chem China), a part of the Chinese Government.
In March 2015, it was announced that Pirelli shareholders had accepted a €7.1 billion bid from ChemChina, together with Camfin and LTI, for the company.[24] The transaction was completed and the company was delisted in November 2015
MIchelin is owned by France
BFGoodrich is an American tire company. Originally part of the industrial conglomerate Goodrich Corporation, it was acquired in 1990 (along with Uniroyal, then The Uniroyal Goodrich Tire Company) by the French tire maker Michelin. Prior to the sale, BFGoodrich was the first American tire manufacturer to make radial tires. It made tires for the then new Winton car from Winton Motor Carriage Company.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tire_companies
" never wore a set of Michelins out."
The rest of the comment was: cause the carcass failed while the tread was still good.
I have watched tire come off the assembly line at the Michelin plant in Greenville SC.There will be several Michelins,then several BF Goodrich.Michelin is a French owned company,but they came to upstate SC in the mid 70s and helped turn an area that depended on a dying textile industry to an economic boom area for the entire state. The employees were well paid and taken care of.The majority retired after 30 or 40 years wealthy.
The main reason for my statement ("never wore a set of Michelin's out") is that I have never kept a vehicle longer than about 100,000 miles give or take a few thousand miles.
I have always wished that when you buy a new vehicle, you could choose the tire brand of your choice prior to delivery.
Little too late to be of assistance, but I have always had great luck with Bridgestone Duelers.
My comment about Pereilli was to illustrate the nature of business today with names we have known and trusted since childhood are not what we may think. I detest the fact we get even plastic spoons from China, they are Commies and will never be our friend.
Tires are huge business, I was shocked to learn the * factory in China was rolling out BFG tires on the next assembly line, my boss saw it when he visited the plant several years ago. * made a great CHEAP passenger car and LT tires and probably the best spread axle Semi trailer tire ever made. One little car had a honest 73,000 miles on a set of tires he bought OTD for less than $150.00. This tire brand was one of the ones hit by the 89% tariff due to dumping and the Chinese Governments involvement.
I really wish we had the capacity here in the states to make every tire we can use. I am willing to pay a bit more knowing the employees are treated well and the safety inside the plants protects them from harm as they work. Alas, I do not get to make the rules so I just do my thing until I retire next May first.
Why in the name of our Lord id the name A-E-L-O-U-* by the sensor???? It is the name of a huge company!
"Why in the name of our Lord id the name A-E-L-O-U-* by the sensor???? It is the name of a huge company!"
Because as depicted in many pictures of the Greek God he is nekkid?
The Eagle has landed... mounted balanced and home
This place used to be fun but he idiocy of the censor banning a word of a major company is so left wing I am amazed they let us use the word GUN at all. Who cares what the pictures may or may not be, the word is not a picture. Banning simple words is the right of the owners by they might want to look at the drop on the auction side and ask, WHY.
Ran Michelin LTX M/S for years (long lasting) but went searching for a better performance/cost ratio and switched to Bridgestone Dueler a/t Revo 3s. I knew there was a tradeoff...the sidewalls are built thinner to decrease cost and increase mpg...but figured it'd be ok. Wrong. While Chukar hunting back in the crags of the Colombia I blew a sidewall that really shouldn't have blown. An offroad tire that can't go offroad?
I don't have a tire disposal. I have one in the sink though.😉
Only allowed to throw away 8 tires a day free of charge in the county waste stations.
These are Michelin's all terrain tire. They are not very aggressive, but work great in the snow. They are quiet and ride nice too. I have been happy with them.