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Suspect in custody
NeoBlackdog
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Looks like they have someone in custody in the Idaho college students murder case.
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Great news. Tracked him down all the way to Pennsylvania. I'd love to see the evidence they have on him.
That's HUGE news here in Utah.
Extremely good news and there will be a law enforcement update on Fox News at 2:00 pm mountain time today.
I hope they have and keep their I's dotted and T's crossed.
Fox news just interviewed Detective Mark Fuhrman - not one of my favorite detectives. I wish they would have asked him if the glove fits.
I'm trying to understand this part, "Shortly before noon, the roommates summoned friends to the house because they believed one of the victims on the second-floor had passed out, authorities said."
Previous news photos showed blood actually leaking out of the house. How in the world do you summon friends to report someone may have passed out if there is this much blood? I'm truly puzzled.
I agree with this assessment. Also baffles me that 4 people can be stabbed to death in the same house and these two people did not hear a thing.
I think there is a lot they are not telling us.
It'd take more than a owning a white Elanta for me to convict someone even if the guy went to school in the area, I guess if a metallic grey Silverado was seen in the area my butt would be a suspect too. I'm a firm believer in "Prove It" beyond any doubt.
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
Seems they have his DNA collected from the scene. Also how they tracked him down. Unlike the TV shows, it does not come back instantly and most likely because of the severity of the case, was tested twice.
Find out why and the details
If guilty feed him to the hogs
Suspect asked authorities if anyone else has been arrested? That's kinda odd.
Have you ever been around a bunch of drunk college kids? Nothing is surprising.
Lets not forget a certain Richard Jewel was almost railroaded by the FBI and local authorities for the Atlanta bombings during the 1996 Olympic Games due to pressure from the families and media for a suspect, After months of being "the" prime suspect and having his name and picture plastered on every news show around the world Mr. Jewel's charges were eventually dropped. The stress dealing with this led to his mothers death and eventually Mr. Jewels death related to the stress. Even after being cleared of the charges you could say he received a death sentence just by being a "suspect". I see the same pressure being applied by the victims families and the world-wide media as it happened in the 1996 Olympics. Let's all keep open minds and let the facts tell the truth.
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
Great news, I’m interested to see the trial unfold
I heard this on the news today. I just wish that the media would pronounce Moscow Idaho correctly...........(Mos-coe)
I know what it was like 45 years ago......🤪
I hope they got the right guy and the families can find some peace. Some rough times are coming, getting through a trial will be tough on all of them. The defense will focus on how getting killed was somehow the fault of the victims and then try to call their character into play..
In most knife murder cases, the murderer's hand slips on the bloody knife, he cuts himself and leaves DNA at the scene. If they have DNA evidence I would love to know how they matched it. They may have done that extensive DNA matching where they find a second cousin here who is a faint match, a third cousin there who is a partial match, and they track the bad guy down. They busted a guy in California this way, The Golden State Killer had murdered a dozen people.
At least Psycho Boy from Pennsylvania was a good vegetarian:
Speaking exclusively to The Post Friday afternoon, a former aunt of Bryan Kohberger said his dietary restrictions were “very, very weird.”
“It was above and beyond being vegan,” said the aunt, who declined to be identified but said she was previously married into the family.
“His aunt and uncle had to buy new pots and pans because he would not eat from anything that had ever had meat cooked in them. He seemed very OCD [obsessive-compulsive disorder].”
He’s going to have trouble with the jail food
I hope so!
Newspaper report said the police tracked him using "geneology methods". That's no surprise; geneology is a HUGE part of the LDS religion, which is so very common in Utah and Idaho. It is a serious pasttime to trace ancestors from parents back to paramecium. (They do it for religious reasons I won't get into here.)
First, I'm glad they have a prime suspect in custody.
On a side note. A Pennsylvania brewery where Kohberger went has a data base on customers. They don't just scan IDs for age, but maintain a data base with notes on customers.
""In the bar's system, staff had added notes that would pop up when his ID was scanned, Serulneck (the bar owner) said.
“Staff put in there, ‘Hey, this guy makes creepy comments, keep an eye on him....... He’ll have two or three beers and then just get a little too comfortable,'" he said.""
I realize that this could have a purpose, but it also gives them access to too much private information. They have a system that has your home address, behavior patterns, etc. An unscrupulous employee would have access & could use this against you. I've seen this at a market where they want to scan your DL when you buy beer or wine. Is this is "Big Little Brother."
It's even huger news here in Idaho.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
I hope they have the right guy, cause his life is basically going to be destroyed either way.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
blah blah blah.............knife slip.......leave hair.........whatever it was........authorities have already stated that genetic geneaolgy is what caught him.
Don't commit a crime where you might leave DNA if you have ever done 23 and me .
It doesn't matter if he has ever had his DNA run on 23andme.
Correct, Allen. It could have been a parent, a sibling, even a cousin.
Given what he is studying, my guess is that this guy set out to commit the perfect, unsolvable crime. He picked people with whom he had no association or connection. He picked a weapon that was not traceable. He made the mistake of either assuming he could keep from leaving DNA or made the mistake that he had not been DNA tested and was not traceable.
As the vaunted Mr. Perfect stated, I too hope he is the guy that did it, because even if found innocent his life is over.
Brad Steele
Update?? Is he back in Idaho yet ?
I'm not sure. But he will soon be given a hearing in Idaho and the prosecutor will have to release some details of the case, to show why he should be denied bond.
This case is very interesting. This guy reminds me of Ted Kacyzinski, Unabomber. A nerd with a Phd who couldn't get a date with a gal, and who murdered a bunch of strangers.
He was booked into the Idaho jail at 6:30 yesterday evening.
Everyone I have talked to is on the same page. It sure seems the guy thinks he's smarter than everyone (lots of interviews with people that know him that talk about what a weirdo he is). Hard not to imagine a cocky, weirdo, criminal justice major getting the hair brained idea to pull off the "perfect crime" (in his mind) at this point. If that is the case, I certainly hope he fries.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
There are no coincidences. There will be cell phone evidence, there is DNA evidence, There is photo of his car in the area. There is cell phone evidence of him leaving the area after the murders.
That is more enough to look at him for the murders.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
The story told by surviving roommate DM is disturbing. I will admit I cannot put myself in that situation, but to see someone at a quarter after 4 in the morning and not do anything for almost 8 hours is bizarre.
She has to live with something that is going to be very difficult.
Brad Steele
I haven't heard that part (somehow).
Incidentally, I know one of the officers investigating this (Lanier). He is a good guy. We attended church together for years until I moved away. Our families still keep in touch.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
nypost.com
Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger was identified as a suspect in the gruesome murders after he left DNA on a knife sheath found by cops at the crime scene, it was revealed Thursday.
As he made his first appearance in a Moscow, Idaho, court, cops released paperwork detailing what led them to suspect Kohberger of killing four University of Idaho students as they slept on Nov. 13.
The affidavit describes how officers discovered a bloody scene over two floors and a leather knife sheath in one room where two victims were discovered in a single bed.
“I later noticed what appeared to be a tan leather knife sheath laying on the bed next to Mogen’s right side,” officer Brett Payne wrote in the affidavit released Thursday, adding the sheath had “Ka-Bar,” “USMC” and “the United States Marine Corps eagle globe and anchor insignia.”
FBI asked police to pull over accused Idaho butcher to get images of hands: report
“The Idaho state lab later located a single source of male DNA (suspect Profile) left on the button snap of the knife sheath.”
The affidavit details how investigators used surveillance camera footage, cellphone data, and FBI analyses to link Kohberger to the crime scene at the time of the killings.
Investigators identified a white Hyundai Elantra that was seen traveling near the students’ house in Moscow, Idaho, between 3:29 a.m. and 4:20 a.m., the estimated time of the murder.
The car circled the area three times, and then entered it a fourth time at 4:04 a.m. The vehicle, which matches the description of one owned by Kohberger, was seen departing the area around 4:20 a.m. at “a high rate of speed,” investigators wrote.
After putting out a query on white Hyundai Elantras to the public on Nov. 25, police officers at Washington State University Pullman, where Kohberger was a PhD student, alerted investigators they found one in the parking lot of student housing on Nov. 29.
Kohberger had been pulled over while driving the Hyundai in a traffic stop in August, which helped further the case.
During the stop, the alleged suspect provided police with his phone number, which they were then able to link to cell tower data to find his location.
Police said Kohberger’s phone pinged around 2:47 a.m. the night of the murder in Pullman, WA, where he lived. It then went quiet until approximately 4:48 a.m., when it showed him traveling on the highway south of Moscow, Idaho, near to the murder scene.
His phone pinged a few more times before he headed to Pullman around 5:30 a.m. which led investigators to believe he took a purposefully circuitous route home. “The route of travel…is consistent with Kohberger attempting to conceal his location during the quadruple homicide,” the affidavit said
Phone records dating back to June also revealed that Kohberger could have stalked the victims before the murder. His phone pinged in the coverage area of the student house “on at least twelve occasions prior to November 13, 2022. All of these occasions, except for one, occurred in the late evening and early morning hours of their respective days.”
nypost.com
One of the roommates in the University of Idaho murder house came face-to-face with the killer, according to a police report.
Four students were slaughtered on Nov. 13 but two friends who lived with them in the three story horror house in Moscow, Idaho — Bethany Funke, 21, and Dylan Mortensen, 21 — were spared.
As suspect Bryan Kohberger appeared in court on Thursday to be charged with four counts of first degree murder over the stabbing deaths of Ethan Chapin, 20, Xana Kernodle, 20, Madison Mogen, 21, and Kaylee Goncalves, 21, police released a probable cause affidavit detailing what led them to suspect him.
It detailed Funke and Mortensen’s version of events, which stated all six people were in the home by 2 a.m. Mortensen, who lived on the first floor, said she had fallen asleep soon after but was awoken around 4 a.m. after which “she heard who she thought was Goncalves say something to the effect of ‘there’s someone here.’”
She opened her door, but could see nothing. Mortensen then “opened her door a second time when she heard what she thought was crying coming from Kemodle’s room,” according to the police report. It added Mortensen “then said she heard a male voice say something to the effect of ’It’s ok, I’m going to help you.’”
“Mortensen stated she opened her door for the third time after she heard the crying and saw a figure clad in black clothing and a mask that covered the person’s mouth and nose walking towards her. “Mortensen described the figure as 5′ 1 0″ or taller, male, not very muscular, but athletically built with bushy eyebrows. The male walked past [her] as she stood in a ‘frozen shock phase.’ The male walked towards the back sliding glass door. Mortensen locked herself in her room after seeing the male.”
Keep him in isolation- no one to talk to
minimal contact with guards
interviews kept short and direct
continue to gather evidence, cross Ts, dot the i
He will be going nuts wanting to know what they know/ have on him
He will have a need to start talking. He will need the bragging, the attention. He will talk.
Do you suppose they'll be accepting volunteers to build the scaffold from which he'll hang?
He imagines himself a genius, getting his Phd. And he leaves the Ka-Bar sheath at the scene. Dummy! Cops discovered "unknown male DNA" on the button snap of the sheath.
That saved the cops a massive amount of work, otherwise they would have had to test hundreds, or thousands of blood samples from all over 2 apartments.
He's stupid, but probably not stupid enough to have run his DNA on 23andme.com The cops ran that unknown DNA on Ancestry and 23andme, just looking for a second cousin, looking for a third cousin.
It seemed to show a lot of effective cooperation between the FBI and local law enforcement, both in Idaho and Illinois where they had him pulled over to surreptitiously gain knowledge of any hand injuries and confirm his cell phone number. I also heard they raided the garbage at his parents home to get samples to verify the dna. The public was kept in the dark to avoid compromising the investigation and I think that was wise. Now if we could just get the FBI to stick to this kind of law enforcement and out of politics we would all be better off. Regardless - well done law enforcement!. Bob
This whole thing is really hitting home to me this morning. I have been so busy building the shop at my place I haven't had a lot of time to think about it, or even really watch the news (though they run news updates at all times, it seems), but last night I spent some time reading through the affidavit that was released. Man, this is hitting me like a ton of bricks.
I have many connections to Moscow, the University of Idaho, and WSU. I lived in Moscow while attending school at WSU for my first 2 years there. My wife (girlfriend at the time) attended the UofI and I got to know her circle of friends there. I have many friends who we regularly see that attended there and while my wife and I were dating I spent a lot of time on the UofI campus. I know right where King road is. I bought my first home in Moscow and lived there many years commuting to Colton and Uniontown and Lewiston and Clarkston for work (all places named in the report). One of my really good friends was a professor at the UofI. All my kids were born in Moscow. I have family that currently lives in Moscow and a daughter living in Pullman attending WSU. Two of my nieces were in the sororities at the UofI and the one who graduated from there last year had seen the victims at parties. I drove through Moscow last October to attend a wedding in Lewiston, about a month before this all happened. One of the lead investigators is a friend (as I mentioned above). The victims and their families are from Coeur d' Alene, which is where I do most of my shopping currently. Moscow is a small town in an Idaho paradise.
I am really pretty ticked and growing more and more angry that this happened in a community to which I have so many ties and love. That this sicko would seek out victims in the tight nit community in which I lived and worked and have roots is really, very maddening. Moscow, Idaho is now a household name for all the wrong reasons. I have to curb my tongue here, but I really, really hope that this evil guy gets all the worst he has coming to him.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain