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Aaaaaand it's China's
Mr. Perfect
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I feel like we should be concerned about this. Apparently we opted not to shoot it down due to the risks of injuring/harming residents of Montana.
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
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Blow it up ! Hit the metal with a guided rocket.
This isn't good. I agree, blow it up and do it now.
...shoot it down? The Pentagon does NOT want to shoot it down...we had two Raptors circle and ID it, but they werent allowed to shoot it down, hell, its over Montana, not like any debris would hit anything... I have no idea why these idiots didnt drop it...maybe we have balloons over China and they are allowing us to spy on them, yeah right...oh this balloon was over one of our major nuke bases too...this entire administration cant go soon enough, clean house of all these Lib morons, JC's and all...
I mean, there are people that live in Montana.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
If it flys over Appalachia, there'll dang sure be some lead thrown at it.
We must be missing some information. Why fly a balloon that moves with the vagaries of the wind when you already have spy satellites in orbit? Perhaps they want it to be shot down for some reason. IMHO it is best to leave it alone. Bob
Ya all gotta see the humor in this. The Chinese have managed to release an unguided high-altitude balloon which is sending high speed clandestine intelligence, back to China, while hovering seventy thousand feet over Billings, Montana - and yet @KenK/84Bravo can't get an Internet connection good enough to use Amazon at his house. 🙂
Sorry Ken, couldn't help myself.
That door you just kicked in was locked for your protection - not mine.
It just doesn't seem fair, does it?
The big guy has his 15% invested in that SPY ballon!
There excuse is, possible collateral damage......in the middle if no where! Literally!
Then they said, its not gathering any important information anyways. WHAT?!
SMDH
Biden gave orders to leave it alone, he does not want to piss off China.
Billings, Montana is one of the larger cities of Montana.
This is not the first time, they have done it several times before if you do a little reading... I'd still like the idiots in charge to blow it away though...
You all will figure it out eventually.. They Own The White House...
If'n we can't shoot it down, the very least we could do is MOON em! Montana! Drop yer pants!! 😁
Never thought of this but that balloon could be carrying some bad juju and is dispensing it out over us. Don't know if blowing it up could make things worse but pretty sure we could capture it, inspect it closely and use it to send them fake news!
Would that not IF China did be an act of war? I don't think China would be that obvious when they could just send over 1,000 infected people with the new bio version and scatter across the land? Just my thoughts and I still think they did that with the China flu to exasperate the USA.
The "ballon" did not stay over 1 spot. Montana is big and has LOTS of unpopulated/low population areas.
They could take this thing down safely, but ole Commie Joe doesn't want to!
I find those mylar birthday balloons in the woods, often.
I wonder...?
why wasn't it shot down over the ocean before it got here?????? they do have long range radar don't they?
Same reason they won't shoot it down now......Biden has too much invested in CHINA!
The official position is something like, "What's the point?" There's nothing that such a balloon can gather that satellites can't, and shooting it down would possibly endanger anyone below - both from the balloon itself and and from the shells/missile used to do so. More to the point, if we shoot down something in our airspace, that sets the precedent for China to do the same with possibly one of our recon aircraft. Remember, they claim almost all of the South China Sea and the Formosa Straits as their airspace. Do you want to trade an aircrew for a balloon?
You and your damn voice of reason! We were gettin' a real good mad worked up and you just came along and let the air out of our balloon...
If it was a US balloon in China airspace, guaranteed they'd shoot it down. Dementia Joe is a spineless jellyfish.
A ballon?? That’s getting pretty high tech for spying. I think it’s just a weather ballon that got caught in the jet stream and failed to break up and come down on it’s own. Now on a conspiracy note, the Japanese during WW2 sent over 500 ballon’s and a lot of them made it to the United States, and caused forest fires out on the west coast. Could be carrying bio chemical vials that could be drop over the U.S.
If it gets over a large body of water bring it down. Eventually it will come down on it’s own.
Ha ha ha ha!!!
That's the point I was trying to make in my earlier reply and it earned me 2 disagrees. I don't really care about the disagrees, but wish someone could at least argue the point I made instead of taking the lazy way out. Perhaps I should have explained my opinion as eloquently as you did. Thanks for being the voice of reason. Bob
IMHO
Wow. Disagree button is for when someone disagrees! Doesnt mean that you are right NOR wrong, just a different opinion!
I DISAGREE when its stated that its no different than a satellite...........we do NOT have sovereign area in space, BUT we do have sovereign air space area ABOVE the USA.
I also disagree that we should just leave it alone! Kinda goes with the broken windows theory. Give em an inch, they will take a mile!
Let us fly a balloon over Beijing and see how THEY respond!
Doing nothing, with the excuse that there isnt any data to gather, makes the USA look weak and feckless!
What if it is a test run?! Since we did NOTHING, next time it may be a delivery system for a nuke!
Chinese government is a lot of things, but DUMB is NOT one of them! They have a reason for doing this, apparently multiple times since Biden took over!
Just sayin'
Bobjudy, KentK/84Bravo, you both make good points, not just on this topic but on other topics as well. There will always be cowards that won’t fess up that they are wrong and take the cowards why out by giving out disagrees and not leaving their name.
Ohh my, a balloon conversation and now there is an uproar over "disagrees". WELL, anywho, China knows Biden is a gutless wonder for sure now that they had any doubt. Makes the USA look like it is, run by freaks and idiots.. "On my word as a Biden" I mauled Cornpop and I don't know anything about Hunter's business dealings.
as stated before, we HAD to know this thing was coming if it floated over canada that long they knew also, why not inform china as soon as it enter our airspace it is gone and at the first nonpopulated area bring it down, to me it doesn't matter if it is collecting data or not, what is to keep it from falling in a major populated area on its own?? Bring it down, check it out and send the pieces back to china.......
I did not say it's the same as a satellite. I said it could not gather any data that a satellite couldn't.
The real reason to not shoot it down is because the Chinese could then say, "You destroyed an intelligence-gathering craft in your airspace. We will now attack any intelligence craft we deem to be in our territory."
That might well include the next SIGINT aircraft or submarine to patrol anywhere in the South China Sea. And when they do, you can post "But, but, but..." all you want.
Balloons make excellent bio weapon delivery devices.
Shoot it down and the substance in the ballon is released.
COVID 20 is on the way.
One more thing...There is no evidence yet (at least that's been publicly released) that it is in fact an intelligence-gathering balloon. It might well be a long-duration weather balloon. Those are well known and numerous.
Cousin of mine got a couple pics of it or something similar late last fall while out hunting. Asked him if he mooned it on the way by. "There's nothing saying I didn't!"🤣
I agree with this statement:
"Wow. Disagree button is for when someone disagrees! Doesnt mean that you are right NOR wrong, just a different opinion!"
Fonts changed for emphasis!
I use it occasionally if I don't agree with an opinion. Usually if I do I will acknowledge that I did. That is the choice of the person who selects the disagree icon and I have had quite a few on my own posts which is fine, we all have opinions but we are not always gonna have others agree with what we post, it's life and we have more to worry about than a smiley or sad face icon on a message board...
I guess I derailed the topic by mentioning the disagrees I got in my reply to the original post. That was not my intention and I am sorry I mentioned them. I was trying to stimulate conversation as to why they didn't agree. I really don't care about the number of disagrees I get but without explanations, it is difficult to have a conversation. Using the disagree button without explanation is the forum version of;
Bob
You are making the same mistake as the gun grabbers. You follow the law because you are a law abiding person. Criminals (or Commie China) will not follow the law because they are criminals. If they had 1/2 a chance to shoot down a US spy plane, they would and not spend a nano second thinking if it was right or wrong.
Problem is they don't have anything that will do Mach 10.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
But neither do we.
I’ve been watching the news and listening to some reports on this balloon. I no longer believe it’s a weather balloon that went adrift anymore, but more of a test balloon disguised as a weather balloon.
If Ronald Reagan or Donald Trump would have been in office the balloon would have never left Montana. By not bring it down I feel we have just sealed Taiwans fate, and ours.
Even as lacking as my skills are at using photo software, I was able to clean one up a bit. It's not a weather balloon......😳