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MAUSER 98 25.06

peedadpeedad Member Posts: 237 ✭✭

A new chambered barrel but put in round and pulled trigger-Didnt even hit the primer. So thinking its too much head space or short firing pin. Thx Ur thoughts please

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  • NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 17,184 ✭✭✭✭

    Make sure the bolt is good and clean inside and once cleaned good check the firing pin. If that doesn't work then take it back to whoever put the barrel on and have 'em double check headspace.

  • navc130navc130 Member Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2023

    You can "kinda" check headspace by putting shims between the bolt face and cartridge head. Definetly check the firing pin protrusion. good luck.

    Whoever did the barrel work is probably your best option once you determine the firing pin operation is correct.

  • chris8X57chris8X57 Member Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2023

    If it's a military safety, put it in the left unsafe position. Depress the bolt sleeve lock and rotate the bolt sleeve to the fired position. Your pin, if it protrudes, should be .060-.070" from the bolt face. If it doesn't, it may be broken or shortened. If it's OK, then check your chamber with a GO and NO GO gauge for headspace.

    If it has a commercial bolt sleeve like an FN or Mark X, then you can still rotate it to fired position to check your pin protrusion. But then you need to put the cocking piece in a padded vice, and pull it to where you can rotate the bolt back to cocked position to re-insert it in the rifle.

  • Gunnut358Gunnut358 Member Posts: 456 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2023
  • peedadpeedad Member Posts: 237 ✭✭

    De-cocked bolt of 98 Mauser and measured firing pin. Its only .035 and supposed to be at least .0-50 to .060. So let me know ur ideas please. Thx

  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******

    Did you check to see if you had the right ammo in the gun?

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  • peedadpeedad Member Posts: 237 ✭✭
  • chris8X57chris8X57 Member Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2023

    There are many variables here. Is this a military mauser bolt body and firing pin? It's possible that the pin has been shortened for whatever reason, or maybe someone replaced it. Sometimes the square shoulders up near the pin are burred, or it has a commercial replacement pin.

    Try disassembling the bolt in its entirety, and drop the pin into the bolt body and see if you get full protrusion without the variables of the cocking piece, bolt sleeve, and safety and go from there. Model 98 firing pins are pretty common, and getting a replacement from Numrich or Sarco is no problem.

    And again, rule out any headspace questions if this was a pre-threaded and chambered barrel. They are not simple screw-on's like everyone thinks.

  • Okie743Okie743 Member Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2023

    .035 firing pin protrusion should have made a dent in the primer.

    Take your gun to a gunsmith and have them check the headspace. they will usually do such for free or small amount. Your new barrel is suspicious of the headspace being out of tolerance.

    If the headspace is ok you are going to need a gunsmith to get the firing pin to around .055 IF ALL ELSE IS CORRECT. Best to not go trying to increase the firing pin protrusion yourself. For example it may not be correct firing pin or internal shoulders on the bolt sleeve has a burr.

    Is your Mauser bolt/receiver a Military or a commercial or maybe custom where the safety/shroud has been modded?????

    When assembling the bolt you can easily STOP one turn short when turning in the shroud assembly and the firing pin won't protrude enough. Always screw the shroud in until it won't turn any more by holding down the shroud sleeve lock plunger then back up until it locks.

    You can find lots of info on-line about Mauser 98 bolts, taking them apart, etc.

    You can really mess up some $$$'s trying to correct firing pin protrusion yourself on a Mauser 98, so proceed with caution.


    Lots of info on-line about Mausers, but do take some of it with a grain off salt and a big slug of good good whiskey.

    If you are getting into Mausers a good reference read is:

    A good read and reference about Mauser rifles is a Hardback book by Ludwig Olson MAUSER RIFLES

    The book is very good telling about how the bolt, extractor, firing mechanism operates, custom Mausers on and on.

    It's a collectors item but every once in a while one will pop up on fleece bay at a reasonable price.


    Sometime back (6 months or more) on this forum I posted a link to a free download of another book about Mauser rifles. Here is a link to that post, https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/1898768/book-on-custom-mausers-free#latest


    Also here is a link to a site that is dedicated to Mauser Rifles for asking questions/gunsmithing Mausers, etc.

    https://mausercentral.net/forum/










  • Okie743Okie743 Member Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭

    What is the latest news about your Mauser????

  • peedadpeedad Member Posts: 237 ✭✭

    I replaced Firing pin with a new one but still no contact with primer so im guessing i reamed it too much so too much headspace. Thx

  • MIKE WISKEYMIKE WISKEY Member Posts: 10,035 ✭✭✭✭

    a mauser should fire even with grossly excessive head space, the extractor should hold the cartridge in place. you have some other problem. bolt not closing far enough comes to mind.

  • chris8X57chris8X57 Member Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2023

    So, OK. Time to stop, remove the extractor and its collar, and check your headspace with a NO-GO and a FIELD gauge. A NO-GO and probably a FIELD with both show headspace adequate for a firing pin indent. If you are so deep you aren't making a dent, then the barrel needs to come off and be set back a turn and re-chambered. Time to involve a competent gunsmith.

    And as mentioned earlier, if the bolt is altered, then make sure it is closing all the way.

  • Okie743Okie743 Member Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭

     Time to involve a competent gunsmith. (and keep in mind that not all gunsmiths are competent (not to be trusted) with doing Mauser 98 repairs)

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