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Win Power point - Right outta the box . . 308

jb4lcmjb4lcm Member Posts: 116 ✭✭
edited September 1 in Ask the Experts

Winchester Power Point 180gr . . .

The following close ups of 3 different random rounds out of a brand new box. The dents and dings are caused by the rounds falling into the hopper head first so not all rounds have these imperfections. But the resulting asymmetrical bullets seem to have very little ability to be reliably accurate. Spinning at 157,200 RPM at the muzzle, what's your take on the accuracy expectation of such rounds?


  • dunbarboyzdunbarboyz Member Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭✭

    Send them and find out.

  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 13,539 ✭✭✭✭

    I never did like Winchester soft points anyway. Those look like 'blems' to me.

  • BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 6,349 ✭✭✭✭

    Well, they sure aren't match bullets but out to reasonable hunting distance I don't think a deer would know the difference. I've killed a few deer with bullets that looked way worse than that. Some of them were damaged when in the magazine and recoil bounced them around but they performed well. Most ammo makers now offer synthetic (plastic) tipped bullets that alleviate the problem for those that care. Bob

  • mac10mac10 Member Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭✭

    i have some remington from the late 50s that have that nib

  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 20,405 ✭✭✭✭

    Do what Gunny. Becker did in "Sniper" in the first movie, take a file and make a point. Being lead maybe a pencil sharpener?

  • waltermoewaltermoe Member Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭✭

    I would just take a knife and cut the tip off flat. I have done this in the pass, you will only loose maybe 1grain in weight. By leaving the tip deformed the weight will be to one side and the longitudinal axis will be thrown off, giving you more of an eccentric path of flight. However at short range accuracy lost would be negligible.

  • forgemonkeyforgemonkey Member Posts: 964 ✭✭✭✭

    Yeah ,,,,,, I’ve reshaped many bullet tips with a file, although not to a ‘point’.

  • pulsarncpulsarnc Member Posts: 6,065 ✭✭✭✭

    Agree, just reprofile the tips and send them . At reasonable distances,less than 300 yards , they will be fine .

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  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 25,362 ******

    Same experience with the old Remington Cor Lokt. I've killed many deer wit those bent bullets.

  • TANK78ZTANK78Z Member Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭

    I understand the "need" to trim or re-profile the bullets, for short distance shooting it would not be worth the time, for longer range it would be a possible way to get better performance, BUT there should be no reason to have to do so on brand new Winchester factory ammo.

    The actual need to fix these rounds is debatable but what is not , is, that the quality control at Winchester is horrible and for the current cost of the ammo it is ridiculous .

    This is not quality production , it is a shame that anyone accepts this product and willingly accepts the need to customize it to help insure a proper shot at an animal that is being harvested .

    Taking deer or other game should be done with proper shot placement in a perfect world, many animals have been taken with crappy shot placement, do too many reasons, but why use deformed ammo unless it's a life or death need .

    If target shooting these , why even bother, I can't see them making decent groupings, a waste of time and money to me.

    No one can be sure any ammo will shoot in a certain way in any firearm until it is tested, starting with this "blem" ammo almost 100% promises unacceptable accuracy for hunting .

    I would like to see 100/200 /300 yard groups on this ammo, just say'n ,proof is in the groups attained.

    I would contact Winchester and ask them if this is their new standard of quality and go from there.

  • grdad45grdad45 Member Posts: 5,251 ✭✭✭✭

    Sloppy, to say the least. Try sending those pics to Winchester asking if that is the way they expect their product to look like.

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