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Federal 20 shotshell difference

utbrowningmanutbrowningman Member Posts: 2,757 ✭✭✭

Looking at the Federal site since anything larger than 7.5 or 8 shot is non-existent around here. Can imaging the small velocity difference is really a game changer.


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  • mike55mike55 Member Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2023

    Are they both high brass? The more expensive one states high brass, the other does not.

  • utbrowningmanutbrowningman Member Posts: 2,757 ✭✭✭

    Yes, "high brass" is a marketing tool that many, including my FiL subscribe to. Will not shoot anything else.

  • mike55mike55 Member Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭✭

    The high brass shells normally have higher end components, just like you stated above. I was simply pointing out the only diff between the 2 pictured(only diff that was written).

  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******

    Well, it is typically a more powerful load, as is the case shown in the OP. The question is "is it significant?" and the answer is clearly no in that regard. Now, it might make some slight difference in competition shooting but do serious competitors use factory ammo? It's not going to make a whiff of difference for hunting purposes.

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  • shootuadealshootuadeal Member Posts: 5,290 ✭✭✭✭

    Oh God, Don't even get me started on shotgun myths.

  • BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭✭

    You make some valid points. Shotshell ballistics are extremely complicated. Most serious skeet shooters use standard velocity ammo for several reasons. Standard velocity patterns better as the pellets don't deform as much so erratic flyers are kept to a minimum. Recoil has a cumulative effect on the body and when you shoot at thousands of targets a year with the higher velocity/harder kicking shells developing a flinch is normal. Lastly, I recall reading a report several years ago about the difference in leading the target with fast vs. standard velocity shells. The fast shells changed the lead on a crossing skeet target by about an inch. Since the typical skeet choke pattern at that distance is at least 24 inches and the typical shooter can't even gauge that one inch the difference is meaningless.

    Hunting game is different as velocity effects both penetration and energy transfer so at least at close to moderate ranges velocity can help get a clean kill. At long range the velocity of a round pellet drops off dramatically and the significance approaches your not a whiff of difference. Also, one of the best choke makers out there, Muller, proved that at 60 yds you should shoot standard velocity because they will keep twice as many pellets on the target as the faster shells deform the shot and open up the pattern drastically at that distance. Bob

  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,079 ✭✭✭✭

    The primary difference I see in your pic is the velocity. Whether the higher velocity is worthwhile or necessary is up to the user. High brass/low brass really makes no diff these days.

  • utbrowningmanutbrowningman Member Posts: 2,757 ✭✭✭
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