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bean expert needed

oldemagicsoldemagics Member Posts: 5,845 ✭✭✭

this is driving me insane

pack of beans from an old AMERICAN co.

planted in identical pots, identical fill, siting 2' apart

WTF makes it look like 2 completely different plants ?

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  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,219 ✭✭✭✭

    Very well could be different seed company's make mistakes also

    My wife has bought tomato plants other than being tomatoes are not close to what was labeled when they mature

  • BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 13,719 ******

    You may have bought your seeds from that traveling salesman from that movie Second Hand Lions Keith!

    It all turned out to be CORN!

    Then again, I remember this kid named Jack. His beanstalk got him into some serious trouble with a giant but he had a happy ending with a Golden Goose! ☺️

  • TANK78ZTANK78Z Member Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭

    Same pack of seeds? if so then have both had Identical watering? if so, could one pot have had some other substance inadvertently spilled or somehow found its way into the pot? were both planted the same time? if not temperature differences can have a bearing on germination and plant growth.

    there are several retail focused American seed companies still surviving , but overall they no longer have the quality control over what goes into seed packets some even knowingly put whatever seed they have and pack it under multiple named varieties just to make quantity and the illusion of a larger choice . the seed will still be of the same type of plant, but not what is named going into the packets. this has been increasingly so over the last decade or so. normally folks don't recall the exact seed variety they bought and as long as they get some production they are"satisfied". they can get away with this at the retail level with virtually no feedback or repercussions , they would never get away with it selling it to growing operations.

  • oldemagicsoldemagics Member Posts: 5,845 ✭✭✭

    all planted watered etc same time from same pack from Gurneys

    And how are all the same in a pot and not several different in each one ?

  • TANK78ZTANK78Z Member Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭

    "all planted watered etc same time from same pack from Gurneys

    And how are all the same in a pot and not several different in each one ?"


    It must be in the soil of bad pot to cause the deformity and stunting, thats what it seems to me, with all other things being equal. rip the bad seedlings out of the pot and replace with new seed from the same package… if the same problem exists after germination the soil is somehow contaminated, if not … then I got nothing more.

  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭

    Clearly must be the soil. Either a pathogen or a toxin.

  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,083 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 23
  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,830 ✭✭✭
    edited May 25

    Leaf wrinkling like that CAN be caused by intense sun, such as what we get here in Tucson. But I don't think you live in the desert…..

    Probably a bad batch of soil. Most soil these days is CRAP……they no longer "bake it" to kill the pathogens/bugs/fungus/etc. :(

    I used to grow about 5,000 tomato and pepper starts a year. Funky things happen.

    Merc

  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,858 ✭✭✭✭

    I'm wondering if the seeds looked the same? The second pot looks like they got more hot sun?

  • 62vld204262vld2042 Member Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭✭

    Maybe it's the neighborhood cats favorite "spot"................or not.😁

  • oldemagicsoldemagics Member Posts: 5,845 ✭✭✭

    thanks for all the thoughts, one last fyi

    both pots filled from same bags of dirt and mulch

    all beans looked the same

    planted same day

    pots at same spot/same sun about 2' apart

    just "switched" one plant from each pot to see what happens, otherwise just wait and see

  • bs233jlbs233jl Member Posts: 623 ✭✭✭

    Looks like one is in the shade, and the other is in the sun.

  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,081 ✭✭✭✭

    Sort of look like morning glories instead of beans.

  • BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 13,719 ******

    On a more serious note, not referring to my goofy reply above, I spent much of my life in the greenhouse business. Growing, buying, and selling. Bean seeds are best directly planted in the ground where they are meant to stay all the way to harvest. They do not survive being transplanted well out of containers unless they are done in peat pots that are just placed into the garden without disturbing their roots.

    The problem pot has had some kind of variant happening either to the soil, seed, or water. Could possibly have been over watered or even over fertilized during this stage of early growth.

  • oldemagicsoldemagics Member Posts: 5,845 ✭✭✭

    like i said, both together about 2' apart

    both full sun most of the day

  • oldemagicsoldemagics Member Posts: 5,845 ✭✭✭

    both direct planted in the pots, same day, same watering

    which makes it so confusing

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