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Lower shipped to FFL no longer at address on license
krefly1
Member Posts: 2 ✭
Hypothetical situation:
AR lower shipped by FFL to FFL listed on GB. Receiving FFL license is still current but he has moved out of state. Lower shipped via USPS to address on FFL which was his old residence. New homeowner signs for and receives lower. Receiving FFL can't be contacted. What should the purchaser of the lower do?
Comments
The new homeowner needs to contact USPS. Package needs to be surrendered and returned to shipping FFL. Buyer needs to find new FFL and start over.
Yes, and buyers NEED to make SURE ship to FFLs listed on their account are CURRENT!!!!
Would the buyer have to trust the homeowner to do this or go knock on the door and suggest the proper action be taken? What if the homeowner resists?
If you can contact homeowner by phone, call and explain. Off er of course all shipping to be paid by sender. If they don’t cooperate contact pistol police who will do nothing.
Bingo !! Now it has been delivered to a non ffl might be a mess.
I've gone round and round with people about their FFLs attached to their accounts. They'll go in and change the FFL info after they've won and its such a PAIN. I wish they hand to click a button that said "yes, this is my FFL" before it sent the info over to the seller….it would fix so many issues on my end.
As far as the lower scenario….you were given an FFL. You shipped the item to the FFL. The seller is NOT responsible for any nonsense beyond this. I'd give the info over to the buyer and tell him to contact the ATF and make them go knock on the door of the person that is accepting packages as if they were this closed dealer. Its ALSO not their fault….if a package is delivered to them its not up to them to go track down where it belongs. They should have sent it back once they realized. Either way, the buyer that didn't make sure all the ducks were in a row is at fault and should be the one to have to track it down. The seller can file a stolen gun report if they feel like it, but beyond that its out of their hands. They did everything they were supposed to do.
"buyers NEED to make SURE ship to FFLs listed on their account are CURRENT!!!!"
^^^THIS^^^
Recently I was considering buying a rifle via GB auction. I decided to find a FFL closer than the 50 miles away one I'd been using. I called 5 FFL listings in GB's 'on file' within 12-15 miles and discovered 2 OOB, 2 disconnected phones, and 1 who didn't seem to give a damn. Most certainly one should contact the receiving dealer before using their shipping info unless their business status is known.
It is easy to have this happen. I started using an FFL closer to my home a few years ago after having dealt only with one for 20+ years. I had maybe 5 sent to him over the course of a year. I saw my digital copy of his FFL that I send to sellers had expired so I emailed him and he sent me the new one. A couple weeks later I win an auction. A week or so after that, Fed-Ex had called the seller and said the business is closed and what should he do.
I was like Oh %)*#$Q since I also had a gun on consignment with them. Anyway, they just moved locations but there was a 3 week span where they had to be out of their old store and couldn't move into their new one. They had stopped selling and everything, but failed to mention anything when I contacted them. It all worked out as before the return to sender time had been reached they opened their store with a new current updated FFL with the new address. Seller was patient thankfully. It really wasn't my fault I didn't feel. Needless to say when I picked up my transfer, I also picked up my consignment gun and I haven't been back. I went back to the place in the city that IMACLONE2 told me about in ~2000.