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browning hp jams
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My browning 9mm hp jams every 2 to 20 rounds changed magazines and ammo still same problem what else should i look for? I do not limp wrist . thanks to all who answer
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How old is your HP? Early pistols were designed only for FMC ammunition, and often will not feed modern hollowpoint or reloaded ammunition.
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A friend got a new Beretta M92 and one of its magazines had burrs on the underside of the feed lips, which caused malfunctions. Removing the burrs cured the problem. Since Mec-Gar probably makes the magazines for both Berettas and Brownings, perhaps you have a batch of bad magazines. Unlikely, but a consideration.
Age of the pistol could also answer a question if, even though the magazines with the pistol are original, they may have been stored loaded to the 13 round capacity for many-many years.
This would no doubt have weakened the magazine springs and be causing part of the problem of proper feed.
***See other post regarding "Weak Magazine Springs".
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If you have an older type of HP with a long extractor (like in M1911), then read this story:
I had a similar problem with my HP.
It drove me crazy.
I was a professional gunsmith and I tryed everything which I could think of, but I was not able to find out where was the problem. It was the worst problem, a gunsmith's nightmare, when you have a gun which jams every now and then, without the regularity in malfunction.
Finally I gave up until I had a chance to speak with an old English army gunsmith.
He told me that Browning HP's are sensitive for a tension of the extractor and adviced me to try to replace the extractor with a new one.
I bought a new extractor from Brownells, replaced the old one and the gun had never jammed again.
Try this and consult with a good old gunsmith in your area.
Hulvin
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If you have an older type of HP with a long extractor (like in M1911), then read this story:
I had a similar problem with my HP.
It drove me crazy.
I was a professional gunsmith and I tryed everything which I could think of, but I was not able to find out where was the problem. It was the worst problem, a gunsmith's nightmare, when you have a gun which jams every now and then, without the regularity in malfunction.
Finally I gave up until I had a chance to speak with an old English army gunsmith.
He told me that Browning HP's are sensitive for a tension of the extractor and adviced me to try to replace the extractor with a new one.
I bought a new extractor from Brownells, replaced the old one and the gun had never jammed again.
Try this and consult with a good old gunsmith in your area.
Hulvin
I'm having the same problem w/ an HP built in 1985. I bought it a couple of weeks ago. The store's gunsmith thinks all he has to do is lube it - we'll see if it works.
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As for the recoil spring, I'd recommend getting a Wolff spring set for the Hi-Power and using it according to the instructions -- start with the heaviest spring, and install them downward in order until you have installed the heaviest spring that will reliably cycle the gun. IF none of them works, of course, the problem is not with the recoil spring, or at least not with it alone.
You don't say which round from the mag this jamming occurs on, first, middle or last, or whether it's random. If the mag spring were weak or the feed lips of the mag tired, rounds in the mag might be loose, in which case they would not be reliably presented for chambering. One way to check this is to fire a round, then drop the mag and look at the top round -- is it well seated or is it out of place? Repeat this process, firing one round and dropping the mag. See if the rounds are always properly seated between shots. If you drop the mag and a loose round comes flying out of the mag well, you probably have a situation wherein the top round is moving forward on you in the mag. In that case, a couple of brand new quality mags might solve your whole problem.
Also, if Browning ever had a design fault, it was that he tended to design his ejection ports small, particularly for the new hollowpoints. That's why for such a long time one of the Government model's favorite reliability customizations was to relieve the ejection port. Today, most 1911 models come with a relieved ejection port. If you have an older Hi-Power, it is possible, I suppose, that you will find it is more reliable with the shortest of 9mm rounds, oftentimes the roundnose FMJ, than with the various HP configs.
But I'd put my money on one of three things as your cause: tired mag feed lips, tired mag spring, or recoil spring -- in combination with your chosen ammo load. You should be sure any gun is tuned (springs, etc.) to handle the ammo you select. If you switch, say, from surplus 9mm to CorBon, you may need to change even a brand new recoil spring to make the gun operate reliably. So trying several ammo brands and power levels is one path to a solution as well. IMHO.
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