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Another Gun misfires, kills man
CHEVELLE427
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Weapon was still in its holster
Patrick Parkinson, Of the Record staff
Article Launched: 07/29/2008 05:34:41 PM MDT
GUNS BAD
A man was shot to death by his own gun in the Uinta Mountains when the pistol accidentally discharged, the authorities said.
The body of Salt Lake County resident Jon Klopfenstein, 55, was found in the Sulphur area of the forest July 12 at 7:29 p.m. He died from a single gunshot wound, investigators said.
"Initially, we thought it was a suicide," said Josh Wall, a spokesman for the Summit County Sheriff's Office. "The officers on scene, and the medical examiner from our office determined that this was actually an accidental discharge."
The 9 mm pistol involved in the shooting is a "cheap, junk gun" made in Israel, Wall explained.
The weapon discharged while strapped in its holster, he said.
"The gun gets hit on the hammer and discharges the round in the chamber," Wall said. "The bullet hit the guy in the belly from below."
The weapon might have struck the ground or exterior of the vehicle, Wall said.
"He fell outside the car, so we're thinking he is probably getting in or out of the car when this happens," he added. "The empty round was still in the chamber He could have been putting it in the car and it fell to the ground."
Nobody saw the shooting occur.
"Somebody just came across him laying there dead," Wall said, adding that officers do not suspect foul play. "This appears to be his gun and he was there alone, as far as we are aware."
http://www.parkrecord.com/county/ci_10034905
Patrick Parkinson, Of the Record staff
Article Launched: 07/29/2008 05:34:41 PM MDT
GUNS BAD
A man was shot to death by his own gun in the Uinta Mountains when the pistol accidentally discharged, the authorities said.
The body of Salt Lake County resident Jon Klopfenstein, 55, was found in the Sulphur area of the forest July 12 at 7:29 p.m. He died from a single gunshot wound, investigators said.
"Initially, we thought it was a suicide," said Josh Wall, a spokesman for the Summit County Sheriff's Office. "The officers on scene, and the medical examiner from our office determined that this was actually an accidental discharge."
The 9 mm pistol involved in the shooting is a "cheap, junk gun" made in Israel, Wall explained.
The weapon discharged while strapped in its holster, he said.
"The gun gets hit on the hammer and discharges the round in the chamber," Wall said. "The bullet hit the guy in the belly from below."
The weapon might have struck the ground or exterior of the vehicle, Wall said.
"He fell outside the car, so we're thinking he is probably getting in or out of the car when this happens," he added. "The empty round was still in the chamber He could have been putting it in the car and it fell to the ground."
Nobody saw the shooting occur.
"Somebody just came across him laying there dead," Wall said, adding that officers do not suspect foul play. "This appears to be his gun and he was there alone, as far as we are aware."
http://www.parkrecord.com/county/ci_10034905
Comments
That would be standard police practice.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
dint no such a varmint x isted!
wonder what it was and what could have made it go off.
i know if you dont have one in the chamber, a second or two to rack it could mean your life, but that is one of the reasons i am hesitant to carry any pistol without a hammer, cocked and ready.
cheap pistol made in isreal?
dint no such a varmint x isted!
wonder what it was and what could have made it go off.
i know if you dont have one in the chamber, a second or two to rack it could mean your life, but that is one of the reasons i am hesitant to carry any pistol without a hammer, cocked and ready.
i was wondering about that , i have a few made there and there not too cheeeeepppp,
The empty round was still in the chamber?
It wouldn't be able to cycle, if it were still in the holster. But I still think the police should try to recreate the discharge, before ruling this death accidental.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
Very Sushpishious. I too would like to know more about these cheap Isreali guns. I hope they are not refering to any IMI products[?]
IF it was THE COP THAT MADE THE STATEMENT
he most likley does not like IMI products as i cant think of any cheep junk made over there. at least i dont think of my IMI products as junk.
quote:Originally posted by brier-49
The empty round was still in the chamber?
It wouldn't be able to cycle, if it were still in the holster. But I still think the police should try to recreate the discharge, before ruling this death accidental.
it may be able to cycle, if he was carry such a cheap pistol, the chances are he had a cheap holster
It depends.
If the bullet hit the big artery that goes down to the legs, he would have been unconscious in 60 seconds.
A liver hit would kill pretty quickly, I am not sure, he would probably have 10 minutes to think it over on a liver hit.
still sounds kinda fishy