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Anybody own a gun..................
jltrent
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they know for sure killed somebody. Does it seem a little creepy?
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sorry could not resist [:D][;)]
But it would not bother me to have a "suicide" or "murder" gun.
He chose the Model 19 to do the job. Like a lot of gun suicides, he fired the gun off in the house once before using it on himself. The bullet from the 19 entered the cabinet where he kept his guns, striking the SAA clone on the butt, chipping the grip and imbedding parts of the jacket around the backstrap screw.
I guess the 19 made too much noise in the house, or maybe he was concerned about leaving a mess. He took the 19 outside, knelt down, and shot himself in the head.
The old guy was the friend of a friend. The friend ended up with the 19, and I still have the SAA clone. I also helped the widow liquidate her late husband's library of hard-to-find gun books.
That's as close as I can come to a known killing, and it would not bother me to own either or both guns.
Now, I have a surplus 1891 Mosin Nagant and a M-1 Garand that may have been used in combat, but I have no way to know for sure.
Back when the SKS was first imported into the USA, my first crate of 20 of them were obviously battlefield pickups. They were rough, dirty, and damaged. One was even full of silt. No telling what those rifles were involved in.
Also have some Japanese swords from the 17th century to WWII issue. Any of them may have blood on the blade.
Somebody once posted that the single gun used to take the most lives was a 25 auto used by an executioner in the Stalin regime. He would seat the victims in a chair and put one in the base of the skull. Supposedly that gun was used to kill tens of thousands of political prisoners.
Yes, it is a bit creepy.
Too old to live...too young to die...
It had one round through it. His son lives across the street and didn't want the gun.
Here is a better question: Anyone ever jump a parachute rig that someone bought the farm with?
I often wonder if it wasn't the result of either a German or Jap coming into close contact with a bayonet mounted on the M1, or one of the two being shot extremely close to the soldier carrying it.
I would imagine that my last M1 drew blood at some point. It had blood pitting on the side of the receiver, but I chalk that up to a bad case of "M1 Thumb".
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
my thoughts exactly ...
? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
My Grandpa was a stickler for gun safety when we were learning to hunt. I think he always blamed himself some how, for not teaching his little brother better.
Additionally, handled, fired and played with captured pistols,,Thompsons, PPsh41s, a Maximim water cooled and a BRNO 8mm lmg.
Many of those weapons killed someone on either side. Some of those Mauser Schnellfeuers probably also killed Nationalist Chinese.
I'd like to know how to recognize blood rust. I have a Union Cavalry saber with several notches in the handguard and curious rust in spots on the blade.
In any case the firearm bears no fault. It's an inanimate object only capable of doing the job for which it was designed... Which is containing the explosion that sends a projectile out the muzzle of its barrel. In this there's nothing sinister.
A firearm is merely a tool. Of itself it does nothing so it therefor had no ability to kill. Should you have asked if anyone owns a firearm used in a killing, then the answer might be somewhat different.
In any case the firearm bears no fault. It's an inanimate object only capable of doing the job for which it was designed... Which is containing the explosion that sends a projectile out the muzzle of its barrel. In this there's nothing sinister.
WELL SAID
they know for sure killed somebody. Does it seem a little creepy?
I have a few. A friend killed himself with a borrowed Smith & Wesson 28 some 40 years ago. After a while the police returned it.
A few years later I worked in a gun store and a one legged, Hispanic Pentacostal priest who drove a silver Checker Cab Company car tried to return a pistol he bought a few days earlier - a Bernadelli 380. I remember him because one legged Hispanic Pentacostal priests and silver Checker Cabs are both fairly rare in Andover, MA. Said he didn't want the gun, but the store didn't take returns. He killed his wife, his girl friend and himself a day or so later. Cops brought the gun back to the store stating it was the "last legal owner". The store didn't want it so I got it.
Recently a former SFPD Deputy Chief gave me a Webley Mk VI in 45 ACP that some woman used to shoot a store robber about 50 years back. The bad guy had some sort of 22 pot metal gun, she had her late husband's Webley behind the counter. As told, when he arrived the bad guy was dead, she was smoking a cigarette and serving customers. Rough neighborhood I guess. He ended up hanging on to the gun when she didn't want it back.
One I know for sure because I used it. Numerous police and military weapons that may. Could not care less. Just tools. Problem with suicide guns is they often get blood on them and it corrodes badly.
Also have some Japanese swords from the 17th century to WWII issue. Any of them may have blood on the blade.
Somebody once posted that the single gun used to take the most lives was a 25 auto used by an executioner in the Stalin regime. He would seat the victims in a chair and put one in the base of the skull. Supposedly that gun was used to kill tens of thousands of political prisoners.
Yes, it is a bit creepy.
Doc, did you kill somebody?
I just ask the detective to make sure they they don't bang it around. When the gun is released I'll probably let my Son pick it up and he can put it in his safe. I really don't want it back. This was her favorite pistol to shoot (so much for women hating the .357 recoil), and it was the pistol I bought new around 1980 to carry as a duty pistol while working as a deputy on the beach (constant salt air.)
Not to hijack this thread, but what would you guys do with the pistol?????????
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One I know for sure because I used it. Numerous police and military weapons that may. Could not care less. Just tools. Problem with suicide guns is they often get blood on them and it corrodes badly.
Also have some Japanese swords from the 17th century to WWII issue. Any of them may have blood on the blade.
Somebody once posted that the single gun used to take the most lives was a 25 auto used by an executioner in the Stalin regime. He would seat the victims in a chair and put one in the base of the skull. Supposedly that gun was used to kill tens of thousands of political prisoners.
Yes, it is a bit creepy.
Doc, did you kill somebody?
Wondered the same thing. I wouldn't mess with Doc. He goes off the deep end pretty easy. Give him a reason and he would take you out without blinking an eye.
But the strangest was a gun that a guy had bought from a shop that I was working in, when I was young. He killed himself with it, and an attorney for his estate appeared one day, and asked to sell it back to the shop. The store's owner bought it, and we put it back in the display case. Then later, a woman came in and wanted to buy a house gun. We sold it to her, and about a month later, another estate executor came in, wanting to sell it. The woman had used it to kill herself, too. The boss bought it again - and then took it in the back room, clamped it in a vice, and turned it into a wad with a 3-pound hammer, and then sailed it ito a garbage can. None of us there, were willing to think it was wrong.
Imagine the stories behind the millions of Mosins that are here. The Soviets recycled everything.
Yep. My middle daughter was dating a guy who's stepfather "ate" his Brazilian 12g in the back seat of his 1978 Chevy wagon in the parking lot of a local mall. He had gone to my local gunshop and my friend who owns the shop refused to sell him a gun as he could tell something wasn't "right" but he went to another shop and got the gun and a box of shells. The family had no money to bury him so I struck a deal....got his gun, the box of shells with only one gone, his Chevy wagon (cleaned up nice...except when it got warm), his jon boat and a really nice cabinet. The shotgun had a little "stuff" near the muzzle but the rest was fine....barely used. In return I gave them enough to get him cremated. My daughters refused to ride in the Chevy AT ALL and always called it the "deathmobile." I finally sold it about ten years ago...still runnin' Still have the gun and shells.
So good of you not to take advantage of them in their time of need. Your parents must be very proud of you.
Yep. My middle daughter was dating a guy who's stepfather "ate" his Brazilian 12g in the back seat of his 1978 Chevy wagon in the parking lot of a local mall.
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My daughters refused to ride in the Chevy AT ALL and always called it the "deathmobile." I finally sold it about ten years ago...still runnin' Still have the gun and shells.
I think that's funny. "C'mon, honey, I cleaned all the blood out of it!" [:D][:D][:D]
..Why should a gun be any more taboo than those examples? A little eerie perhaps, but no need to dwell on it.
A gun is a tool............
To me, the ultimate freedom is the ability to decide and carry out the ending of one's own life.
My son did the same; I wasn't allowed the gun.
Dad, twenty four years ago; son, eight years ago.
'Course the Government doesn't like to lose taxpayers so it's a crime some places.
My mother, (92) made me promise not to do anything "stupid". So I make many bad jokes.
Time for a joke; my mind needs jokes.
But I do have a weapons locker...