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House was broke into today.

EVILDR235EVILDR235 Member Posts: 4,398 ✭✭
edited June 2016 in General Discussion
Was out of the house today. When i got home everybody was elsewhere. I went to open the front door and it had the chain on it. I knew something was wrong. Right then i should have went to the back yard. I had a pair of limb loppers on the porch and after a few minutes i was able to cut the chain to get in. Every light in the house was on and every door was open. All the drawers in the house were also open. A quick check to make sure there was nobody still in the house. Second check was the gun room. No gun safes pryed open or missing hidden guns. To tools missing from garage, but the door was kicked in. Nothing missing from shop either. A couple dollars change was gone. My wifes PS3 was gone. I have all my meds still. They were moved, not taken. I have fixed the chain on the front door and a temp fix on the garage door till tomorrow. Will be adding a alarm to the garage and shop. The thief left thru the back door and kicked a whole in my wooden fence to get away. Cop came and took a report. Told me unless there is a dead body, they don't do finger prints. I think it was some teenagers, but who knows. I did see a couple of those church people who ride bicycles around my house when i came home. We were lucky this time. I will be packing all the time. Rotten Barfturds.


Very Lucky.
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    wiplashwiplash Member Posts: 7,146 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like kids to me.

    They will be back! Trust me.
    There is no such thing as Liberal Men, only Liberal Women with Penises.'
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    1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wiplash
    Sounds like kids to me.

    They will be back! Trust me.



    yup and someone had been there before
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    EVILDR235EVILDR235 Member Posts: 4,398 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am retired and will be waiting. I don't go out much and we live in a area where it is mostly older folks with very few kids. We have a lot of people that walk down our streets wearing backpacks and don't look like they belong in our neighbourhood.

    EvilDr235
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    WranglerWrangler Member Posts: 5,788 ✭
    edited November -1
    Don't do fingerprints???? If there is a chance we can get prints, we try. Sounds like someone was being lazy.
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    p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 25,750 ✭
    edited November -1
    Hide or park your car somewhere else and just hunker down in your house with a good book and a gun.
    If you can get some empty game system boxes, put them out on the next garbage day next to the can, maybe even a day before.
    It's legal to hunt over bait, just don't trip up and answer the phone or the doorbell.
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    montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 58,065 ******
    edited November -1
    I'm sorry this happened to you. Keep your guard up and eyes open. Good luck.
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    fordsixfordsix Member Posts: 8,722
    edited November -1
    time for hidden cameras
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    diver-rigdiver-rig Member Posts: 6,342 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gotta despise a thief.

    Hopefully they never come back.....
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    allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,260 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes you better get 2 or 3 cameras and be damn careful about the gun. You could get into more trouble than you want. Even if the shooting is justified you could wind up in deep doo doo in civil court.
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    Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,603 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The courts will turn them loose if they are caught. What's the use in arresting these thugs if they're just going to turn them loose with a slap on the hand.

    If someone catches one of these punks breaking in they ought to just rob them and then beat them within an inch of their life. If they hurt someone during the break in or do any damage they need to be tied up in the basement for a few days and beat the hell out of'em a few times a day. Then after about a week or so pour them a pair of concrete cowboy boots and take them on a fishing trip.
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    sxsnufsxsnuf Member Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry for your misfortune.
    Maybe lucky the house was unoccupied, for everyone's sake.
    Also fortunate the losses were minimal.
    They were there when you got home, seems to me.
    They chained the front door to slow you down, then made a hasty retreat.
    Arrivederci gigi
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Get a mean dog. Put up signs you have a mean dog. They won't be back.
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    yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,126 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like they're testing the wire and seeing what's there. Didn't take the pharm so I guess what you got they can't get high on. As I type this they're looking on youtube on how to get in to them safes.

    While going the alarm route look in to cameras that link up to your cell phone. If you got old and janky PC rebuild it to monitor the cameras. Then hide the PC in a safe spot.
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    GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    Kill one for me.
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    RobOzRobOz Member Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Junkies
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    rossowmnrossowmn Member Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    Get a mean dog. Put up signs you have a mean dog. They won't be back.

    But on the other hand, if they DO come back and get attacked by the dog, you'll get sued half way to hell because you publicly admitted knowing you had a mean dog. Not right, but it happens.[:(]
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    wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    +1 on junkies...
    "What is truth?'
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    jerrywh818jerrywh818 Member Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Check your phone caller ID to see if anybody called before the break in. Sometimes they do that to see if your home. Get a trail cam.
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by rossowmn
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    Get a mean dog. Put up signs you have a mean dog. They won't be back.

    But on the other hand, if they DO come back and get attacked by the dog, you'll get sued half way to hell because you publicly admitted knowing you had a mean dog. Not right, but it happens.[:(]


    Stretch
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    quote:Originally posted by rossowmn
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    Get a mean dog. Put up signs you have a mean dog. They won't be back.

    But on the other hand, if they DO come back and get attacked by the dog, you'll get sued half way to hell because you publicly admitted knowing you had a mean dog. Not right, but it happens.[:(]


    Stretch


    And be prepared to have your H/O insurance cancelled,,,,,,,,


    Stretch ... They have Insurance for Dogs on the policy.
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    AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,062 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Wrangler
    Don't do fingerprints???? If there is a chance we can get prints, we try. Sounds like someone was being lazy.



    Many, many burglaries are solved by fingerprints. When I was working they computerized the fingerprint data. A Department that doesn't collect evidence is short changing you. One of the big differences between San Diego Police and San Diego Sheriff was we lifted any fingerprint possible. The Sheriff had a much higher closer rate than the PD just for that reason.

    By the way it is much cheaper in the long run to solve those burglaries than to keep taking reports that go nowhere.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just picked up my car thurs in Florida. Man had a gated drive with signs on it. Guard Dog.. Beware of Dog.. and some in spanish. Gate was open and I stopped going thru gate , went to the truck/trailer and text him.. are your dogs put up?.. then entered premise by walking down his long drive. Can't tell me that insurance companies do not insure dogs.
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not so. Insurance co. fully aware of the dog. They evaluate each dog and the record of that dog.
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No reason for me to give you personal information about my homeowners. I do not allow tenants to have pets on the premises. I could make them sign a waiver and allow them to insure themselves or handle their own business. However pets do damage to property and also make me change out carpets when they leave because some new tenant would have allergies.
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    bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,664 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just spent 700 bucks on a wireless security camera system with 8 cams and a 1 Terabyte recorder. Automatic power outage reset and hooked to my cell phone.
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    https://www.mspca.org/pet_resources/home-insurance-and-pets/
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You must have missed the list of companies that insure on that link.
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    You must have missed the list of companies that insure on that link.


    No, no, I didn't miss companies that insure dogs under liability,,,,,,,,,remember, we're talking about a known 'mean dog' ,,,,,,,,your words not mine.

    In response to my prior question,,,,,,,,give me the name of your insurance company(not your agent or personal info) and I'll contact underwriting for a definitive written answer. Fair enough ?????


    Why would I do that? I had a mean dog till he died. Not one problem with the insurance. They knew he had bit. Period. Not one problem.
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    JunkballerJunkballer Member Posts: 9,186 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by GuvamintCheese
    Kill one for me.
    [;)] [:D]..................Dogs save insurance companies Billions of $$.

    "Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee

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    JunkballerJunkballer Member Posts: 9,186 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey
    quote:Originally posted by Junkballer
    quote:Originally posted by GuvamintCheese
    Kill one for me.
    [;)] [:D]..................Dogs save insurance companies Billions of $$.


    [:D][:0],,,,,,,,,C&P,,,,,,

    In 2002, dog-bite claims cost insurers almost $350 million, and accounted for a full fourth (1/4) of all liability claims.
    Maybe so but they saved them Billions by being a deterrent to crooks and wannabe crooks, the amount of unknown (un-measureable) savings I would think would out-weigh their payout by a long shot, of course the insurance companies wouldn't admit that fact, it would hurt their ability to raise premiums [;)]

    "Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee

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    shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,815 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    Sounds like time for a game cam.


    I just purchased one to try out at my place. I will probably buy another of the other side if this one works out.
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    llama girlllama girl Member Posts: 605 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like predatory disadvantaged minorities.
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    JunkballerJunkballer Member Posts: 9,186 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Empirical evidence" & "stats" [:D] words only Insurance people throw around to increase premiums on people while trumping up numbers they sometime pull out of the air for their advantage (rate increases)....... with the approval of the "crooked" State Insurance Commissioners of course. I don't pull numbers from the air , just use general terms and No I can't nor will try to prove anything but I do feel dogs prevent untold numbers of burglaries saving insurance companies a lot of money, their claims payouts are a drop in the bucket what dogs "unknowingly" save them. Proving an unknown is impossible, but I'm sure you've got stats on that subject too [;)]. Another thought, it's a well known fact that Cops respect dogs protecting homes, I think potential burglars do too, sorry, again no proof on my part [:)].......Bye

    "Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee

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    Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    No reason for me to give you personal information about my homeowners. I do not allow tenants to have pets on the premises. I could make them sign a waiver and allow them to insure themselves or handle their own business. However pets do damage to property and also make me change out carpets when they leave because some new tenant would have allergies.


    So, you don't want the risk of pet(s) but you think an ins. co. wants to insure the risk of a known 'mean' dog with the potential of a million dollar lawsuit,,,,,,,,,,C'mon Gary, I know you're smarter than this.



    You sure about that?
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
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    1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    i fully agree with FM

    i have a very close friend that trains protection dogs for law enforcement, including homeland security , he has plenty of stories about signs etc SF you have just been lucky


    you have been warned [;)]
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    montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 58,065 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    i fully agree with FM

    i have a very close friend that trains protection dogs for law enforcement, including homeland security , he has plenty of stories about signs etc SF you have just been lucky


    you have been warned [;)]
    +another,,
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ain't no luck. Had..Had a mean dog.. signs everything.. posted.. Insurance no problem. Thurs seen the same thing with seller of car. His dogs were put up.. signs everywhere. Folks are nervous nellies..some dogs are meant to protect. Respect that and you won't get bit.
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    US Military GuyUS Military Guy Member Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This thread has gone to the dogs.

    [:D]
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    wiplashwiplash Member Posts: 7,146 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm still waiting for an update!
    There is no such thing as Liberal Men, only Liberal Women with Penises.'
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    EVILDR235EVILDR235 Member Posts: 4,398 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have reinforced the back door and added a alarm. I am adding barbed wire to the only short fence in my back yard. Pistol safe has a alarm already with self contained batteries. Computer / safe room will be getting a alarm also. I now pack everywhere i go including my house and garage. I live in a nice area in Vancouver, but a lot of the trash from Portland is coming across the bridges to do bad things here. I am using car alarms with micro switches and motion detectors.

    Ripped off in Vancouver.
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