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how good a shot are you?

mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
edited December 2001 in General Discussion
Impressive groups with an air rifle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyybmryvRhs
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  • mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Standing out in the middle of a field, holding your run-of-the-mill .22 rimfire rifle with a scope, shooting at a two inch in diameter circle 20-25 yards away, out of 10 shots how many are hitting the circle?I was putting 6 and 7 consistently in there, and 8 on occasion. How far behind the curve am I?
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  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You need to adjust that scope or something, brother man! Ever one of them critters should be under 2 inches at 20-25 yards!
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  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd say that's pretty good shootin! Off-hand shooting is my worst position, but 6 out of 10 sounds good to me.G36*Now, I'm sure we'll get responses that some of these guys can hit 10 out of 10 in the same hole
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  • simonbssimonbs Member Posts: 994 ✭
    edited November -1
    I don't know, but as soon as I find a range I'll see. But, I'll have to use iron sites, as I have no scope on the Norinco.
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Heck, I not only put all ten through, but I put 'em all in the same hole! Actually, shooting off hand I can put em all in a beer can at 30 yards, but 6-7 in 2 inches sounds about right.
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  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Argh!65% average at 20-25 yards with a scoped .22 firing at a 2 inch target? That's right about on?
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  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Standing up. You're right in there, maybe a little better than most. It means you would score on 7 out of 10 on the ground squirrels we shoot out here in the spring. Sit down and they should all be within an inch. Most run-of-the-mill 22s won't shoot much better than that with standard ammo.Clouder..
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  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My bad. I missed that you were standing. I do most of my shooting prone. Not too shabby!
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  • 22WRF22WRF Member Posts: 3,385
    edited November -1
    10 of 10 with my ruger MK1
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  • RedlegRedleg Member Posts: 417 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    10 out of 10 with my Browning Gold...oh, wait...that's a shotgun. (ha, ha, ha)
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  • sandman2234sandman2234 Member Posts: 894 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Open Field...don't think so. If I was standing inside the barn I might be able to hit the barn.
    Have Gun, will travel
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I usually shoot my .22 straight up and then take a tin cup and catch the bullet as it falls back to earth.....guess the first liar never stands a chance. heehee..[This message has been edited by Rembrandt (edited 12-18-2001).]
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  • songdogsongdog Member Posts: 355 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ON last thursday night i went to check my traps and i missed a bobcat at 10 feet with a scoped 22. At least he was caught in the trap to give me another try.songdog
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  • 7mm_ultra_mag_is_king7mm_ultra_mag_is_king Member Posts: 676 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Clouder, I have a marlin .22 with a nikon 3-9 on it that will cut holes at 25yds all day off of bags, most every .22 Ive had will do that. Off hand I stink, probably wouldnt even hit the target! I have a freind that shoots compitition .22 and with his comp .22 if that was all the better he did he would run it over with the truck
    when all else fails........................
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  • songdogsongdog Member Posts: 355 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    For all of you not so good off hand shooters out there. Here is wha i am trying to do to get better at it. I can tell that it is working for me. I started off with a smaller gauge shotgun to get the feel for the recoil nad have since moved to a 12 gauge. But here is what i do. I started by shouldering the shotgun and having someone roll a baseballl or something round across the ground rather slowly and i would try to shoot it off hand. Then move the speed of the ball up as you get more confidence in YOURSELF. Then move up to clay targets flying about eye level and away. Then try all of those other shots. This will help boost your confidence and allow you to make better shots. Just try it a couple of times and see what you think. The key is to get the gun to feel as normal on one side of your body as it does on the other. It has also been proven through several madical exp. that being ambidextrious, whatever that word is for using both sides, will decrease a persons chances of getting alz heimers. Well i am not sure that it decrease the chances but it will make it arrive to the brain at a much later time in your life. songdog
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  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    7MM:Off bags. Selected gun. Paced shots. Paper target with rings and other sighting aids. Yup, me too and most other fair to middling shooters. Off-hand with an average rifle and a box of Xperts, 70% is good shooting.Clouder..
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  • mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK, I feel a bit better. My 10/22 is not totally stock--I invested in a gorgeous trigger job a while back--but I know I'm in the neighborhood and with work I could get better. Thanks for the opinions.
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Oops! My mistake, I was shooting with open sights. Should do a little better with a scope.
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    My mother's maiden name was Oakley (no, not the sunglasses). Oakley, as in Annie. My second cousin once removed on my father's side was Carlos Hathcock. I don't use glass for anything under 1,000 yds. I can put all 10 through the same hole at 100 yds., off hand, with a 25 mph crosswind, in the rain, with a "out of the box" Jennings.Mudge the mendacious
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
    edited November -1
    At my age,anything I hit is the target!
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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    Mudge - you the man!!!I don't know about a 2" circle 'cause I always use a 1" postit dot. 6 or 7 sounds about right for offhand and a 1" target. If that is your score on a 2", get back to practice.
    Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    First liar doesn't stand a chance with Mudge around that is for sure. Mudge you did forget to mention it was a moonless foggy night.
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  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Off hand I'm every bit as good as good as sandman2234, Standing out in the middle of a feild with a long gun ... well I hope none of ya are standing out there with me ...
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    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thats not BAD, but its not fantastic. Can I do better right NOW, I'm not sure, havent practiced much lately, but with a little brushing up yes, and with a factory 10/22, thats what I have. I believe you are probably not using your sling correctly for this practice you've been doing, cause your Ruger should shoot better than that, and at 25 yds. offhand, you should be able to do about as good as your gun can do. Its all about getting your natural body allignment, position in the offhand, and your breathing down to a science. All that being said, it doesnt really make a difference, cause you dont have that much time when you're hunting, USUALLY. I personally dont measure the accuracy of my shooting by inches, I measure it by results. If you are trying to make head shots on squirrels, than I'd say worry about the inches, but if you're just trying to hit the squirrel, then how you shoot right now is just fine. Dont get hung up on what anyone else says their super duper game getter does, just have fun with what you're doing and keep on shooting, otherwise, it will stop being fun.
    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    10 out of 10 within an inch circle ..."home made" .22 short From a slavia Pelletgun. at 45y 12x scope I wonder how a .22 "adapted"gammo will do ?well if i relocate and get a class 3 again i will do it! ,Its too damm expensive and Burrocratic in all sense were i am now.
    Ignis Natura Renovatur Integram
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  • CA BlueCA Blue Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just tried this with a AR 7 type Henry survival rifle without a scope. 10 out of 10 inside the 2 inch dot. Tried again at 50 yards...1 out of 10. Ok, time to shop for my first scope.
    People's right to bear firearms shall be infringed in PRC.(People's Republic of California)
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  • mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You really got all 10 in there at 25 yards shooting off hand? My hat is off to you. I used to teach with an ex-Marine who told me he could keep all of them in a pie plate from 200 yards away with his M14, shooting while standing. I was impressed then and I'm impressed now. I'll head back out to the field Thursday and take another crack at this. Anyone besides Mudge, please do the same and post results. Mudge, to make things fair you have to drink a bottle of whiskey first and shoot with your non-dominant hand.
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  • CAndres35CAndres35 Member Posts: 453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I DONT KNOW ABOUT A TWO INCH CIRCLE BUT I USE CAPS OFF THE GALLON MILK AND ORANGE JUICE BOTTELS AND IF I HAVENT HAD TWO MUCH COFFEE I CAN USUALLY PUT NINE OUT OF TEN IN THE CAP WITH OCCASIONAL 7 AND OCCASIONAL 10. AT 25 YRDS I CAN USUALLY HIT THE END OF A SHOTGUN SHELL 2 OUT OF 5 TIMES. I AM USING A CUSTOM 10/22 WITH L/R HOLLOW POINTS. 9 OUT OF 10 SQUIRRELS I SHOOT OR SHOT IN THE HEAD IF I CAN SEE THE HEAD. PRACTICE,PRACTICE,PRACTICE. AFTER SIXTY YEARS I ALMOST GOT IT THEN MY EYESIGHT STARTS FAILING. CARL
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  • cowboy62cowboy62 Member Posts: 70 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just came in from this experiment.25 yards, 2 inch circle. 10 for 10 with a 1/4 inch to spare....However I was not using a run of the mill 22.It is a very customized 10-22 with hogue stock, trigger job, and whatever Metz could figure out how to do. Offhand is not hard. My only secret is knowing when to pull the trigger. It does not matter how steady you are, you just need to pull the trigger when you are pointing at the target.JMHOPractice. At 25 yards you could be doing better.Cowboy
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  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd probably average 80% with iron sights. The only scope I have is on a Mini-14. 90% of the shooting I do is offhand, standing, with iron sights, or Willlams peep. I figure I may as well practice the way I will most likely be using the gun. Ammo makes a big difference, and so does different ammo in different guns. I'll get all 10 in occasionally. I use the orange stick on target spots, available in different sizes, stuck to an old 55 gallon drum. All of my iron sights are adjusted to "bury" the bead in the V, seems to work best for me. You won't hear about 100 yard groups under 1 inch from me, I don't shoot from bags (well, hardly ever). I do, however, know my limitations. I'd rather hit what I shoot at than brag about what I can't.
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  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Cowboy, you was shootin' at the woodpile in the back yard again!
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK you .22 deadeye's....how many here have shot small bore silhouette? That's the best way I've found to see how good your off hand marksmanship is....
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  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I like this thread, particularly because I now know that Mudge is officially full of sh*t! Cowboy, I have to question your statement; "Offhand is not hard. My only secret is knowing when to pull the trigger. It does not matter how steady you are, you just need to pull the trigger when you are pointing at the target."I believe that there's a lot more to it. Yes, squeezing the trigger at the correct moment is part of the plan. But, I also think that breath control, keeping your eyes open, and smoothly following through on the trigger pull make a difference. I've found that when I concentrate on those elements I can produce better results. When I pull the trigger at the exact right moment, but flinch or squeeze my trigger hand it seems like I change the point of impact. I'll try to do a test of my M1A this weekend at 100 yards offhand and see what I can do with iron sights.
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  • Mark IIMark II Member Posts: 247 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't know about standing, but at 50 yards with my custom 10/22, from the bench, if all I'm doing is 2" groups, it's a bad day at the range. I know the rifle is better than I am, and together we have put 10 rounds into a 3/4 inch group. My goal is a half inch. Guess I'm going back to the range for more practice.
    "To meet with ill fortune is to meet with good fortune. To meet with submission is to meet an enemy."Mark_II@gunbroker.zzn.com
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    mlincoln.....that marine would have had to have been one hell of a shot. The diameter of the 10 ring use in competition is just under 7 inches(say 6 7/8 inches to score as a 10). Now I've seen some of the best shooters in the country and there are only a few who routinely clean the target in offhand with a service rifle...easier to do with a match rifle. Even the best usually will dribble one, two,or three nines. They'll clean rapid sitting and rapid prone and then settle down for slow prone at 600 which most can come close to cleaning. Usually your offhand determines how you do that day. That marine must have been one hell of a shot or he was blowing some serious sunshine up your lower colon. I'd say if he was wearing a distinquished badge he might be able to do it, but if he wasn't I'd guess he might have had a little higher opinion of his shooting than he should have. Beach
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  • SNIPER1048SNIPER1048 Member Posts: 144 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    mlincoln: A 1" BLACK SQUARE AT 25 METERS (82 FEET) IS THE SAME AS A MAN TARGET AT 500 METERS. TRY TO HIT WHILE STANDING KNEELING OR PRONE. NO BENCH!! AT THE HORN: EXIT THE VEHICLE REMOVE SEMI-AUTO FROM CASE,INSERT MAG AND CHARGE WEAPON. ASSUME PRONE POSTION IN DIRECTION OF TARGET. AQUIRE TARGET, GET RANGE AND PUT 5 ROUNDS INTO THE PLAYING CARD AT 500 YARDS. TIME? UNDER 15 SECONDS! WHY? TAKE A GUESS! IT'S NICE TO HAVE A RURAL RANGE WHERE YOU CAN PLAY OUT GAMES WHEN NO ONE IS AROUND. SOME THINGS SOME PEOPLE JUST HAVE A TALENT FOR.
    "START THE BALL ROLLING THERE, TECTOR"
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  • 218Beekeep218Beekeep Member Posts: 3,033
    edited November -1
    If I`m goofin` off, with one of my Savage M-23-Sporters,they didn`t tap them guns ya know,and usin them crappy Thunderbolts,or Xperts..I`ll get a couple of them dern flyers that make the hole look all raggedy..an stuff...Yeeaahh dats da ticket!~Point Two Eighteen~
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  • Loud Guns And Big TrucksLoud Guns And Big Trucks Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don't laugh but with my marlin 880 sq with a BURRIS balck diamond 4-16x50 cranked up to 16x I can keep all 10 in a 2" orange target dot at 25yds
    If youre gonna do itdo it BIG!
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  • .250Savage.250Savage Member Posts: 812 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don't know about the .22, made an 11 1/4" group @ 100 yds standing, 03A3 with sling tight around arm, plain store-boughtn' ammo, issue sights. My sitting and kneeling were a lot better, 3 1/8" on both. Just got back to reloading highpower, have to get out there more often now to empty out those cases so I can fill 'em up again and shrink those groups.
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Geez....I'm shocked! Can't figure which part you didn't believe?Foggy and moonless....I'm not gonna' LIE to you.....I'm not THAT good!Mudge the puzzled
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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