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Just kiddin with ya Mudge...I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if you thought I was really attacking you.G36
Gun Control Disarms Victims, NOT Criminals
Wednesday before deer season opened I was already in east Texas and I wanted to shoot my 10/22 with the Simmons 3x9 that I haven't shot in 5 years.I shot a couple clips thru it and really didn't do too well.I slipped the sling over my shoulder and it came loose and the muzzle fell back and hit the ground straight up and the scope fell off!Guess I should have checked the mounts before I left the house after sitting in the safe for so long.By the way,the clip was in my hand.
I'm not the best shooter in the county, but I can always hit my target, whether it be rifle or handgun.Ruger .45 2" groups off hand at 15 yards.Kel-Tec P-11 2" groups at 10 yardsKel-Tec P-32, Kel-Tec P-11, Kimber Ultra Carry CDP II all shoot within the black and double tap on a small silhoulette(sp?) target at 10 yards.
If i couldn't hit 10 out of ten at 25 yards with open sights i would quit shooting. Two inches? My God, thats a dinner plate with a scope! I don't see well at all close up, the rear sight looks fuzzy but i sure can shoot better than most of you. I'm not being a smart * it's just that you guys need to shoot a hell of a lot more. Rosie
hey folks if ya want to have a little fun go to www.milsurpshooter.net then click on modern firearms then click the 22 rimfire rifle & pistol forum then the postal match forum. read, download target, shoot targets, mail, brag, fun!!!!!!
beach,It can be done, I cleaned the 200 yd. line in the Far East Division Matches in 1999, but I cant remember if it was during the individual shoot or the team match. I took a bronze in the individual match, cause I blew the 500 out my @$$. However, we kicked everyones butt in the Team Match and took first place, much of that was because I did so well in the offhand at 200. Again, I didnt do so well at the 500, but it was good enough. I dont think I could do it with the rifle the other Marine claims to have, though, its a whole different animal, I found that out at the Marine Corps Match that same year, but it was fun.
SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
Rosie, I agree, if I had the opportunity to practice more I could likely improve my shooting accuracy. But, with work, a family, bills, etc. I'm lucky to shoot once per month. I'm sure some of you guys either live somewhere where you can shoot in your backyard or whatever, but for me it's a 1 hour trip to a crappy range or 3 1/2 hours up-north just to shoot.G36 the jealous..
Gun Control Disarms Victims, NOT Criminals
Rob, That is the payback for the "mouse gun' a lot of guys can do well with it in offhand at 200 yards. Almost a no brainer to shoot in the mid ninties in offhand.....the proof in its pudding though is on the long line....that short sight radius gets you back at 600 yards. Because it is so much easier to shoot at ALL of the short distances, virtually everyone is going to it for service rifle shooting and they don't mind that they are losing a little bit on the long line. My comment was directed at the M-14 offhand scores....had he said the marine routinely shot 198's at 600 with it I wouldn't have questioned the statement. Beach
I gotcha', the M14 is more accurate in my opinion, as I think you agree on? It is a great gun, heavy, but good shooting. Shooting it in the offhand was different. I heard when I was shooting the Marine Corps match that we were the last ones to be shooting with it at the Marine Corps match in 99, that it was the intent to, GULP, destroy the M14s, and go to an accurized M16. I didnt have the guts to check and see if that actually happened, figured I'd just be p!$$ed if it did, so if I go back sometime and find out we're shooting the accurized M16 then I guess it happened. If it did, what a waste.Oh, and something else, shooting offhand at a match like that isnt fair to compare to shooting in 'a field' either, cause I believe its harder to shoot your .22 in the field than the weapon of choice at a match, due to the simple fact, I've never seen anyone wearing a shooting jacket, like the type you wear in a match, while shooting in the field at 25 yds. I believe that shooting jacket would make anyone capable of shooting in a 3/4" group in the offhand at 25 yds with a scope, regularly. I'd forgot about that until just now.
SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
G36, Sorry i got carried away. I guess i just forget that everyone don't live where i do. I have a 150 yard range in my back yard and access to all manner of shooting sports 45 minutes away. Wish all of you had the same. Rosie
As for the marine who could keep them all in a pie plate at 200 yards while standing, I have no concrete proof beyond what he said. At the same time, he was a quiet fellow who didn't talk much at all about such things, not the kind of fellow prone to exaggeration. He also served for a couple years in recon in Vietnam and got shot to pieces once. So, I sort of believe him. Maybe he's remembering the best day shooting of his life, or maybe it was one of those Homer Simpson pie plates.I guess I am doing something wrong. I only get out to shoot about 4 or 5 times a year, and my only formal instruction was in the boy scouts years ago. (BTW, I was chatting with a 13 year old kid here at school and I asked him if he'd done rifle and shotgun shooting at boy scout camp. He told me they used BB guns. Man, is there anything that's cool anymore?)
lincoln, yes there is something that is still cool, and youre already there, this message board is one of the coolest things around, what more can you ask for to take up idle time, when not shooting or hunting?
SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
mlincoln....talking about the Boy Scouts, my brother is a Scout Master of a Troop in Newport Beach, California. They shoot everything under the sun from 541 Remingtons in formal smallbore to a Draganov and some Match weapons out at a ranch in North Central California. It may be the People's Democratic Republic of Kailifornia to some but my brother has even some of the Yuppie liberal swine convinced that guns are the greatest thing on earth through their Boy Scout children. He usually takes upwards of 25-30 boys out to this ranch and they spend the entire weekend safely blasting away with AK's(yes evil I'll admit you cna have some fun with even that inadequate rifle), SKS's, M1's, M1 carbines and even a couple of AR's...NOW THAT IS SCOUTING LIKE IT SHOULD BE!!! I'm going out to California this March with my .22-250 to help clean up a slight prarie dog problem....the owner of the ranch said we could kill as many as our trigger fingers would permit!!! Got to love it. Really looking forward to it. Beach
Beach.If you should see a old guy in a wheel chair with a 22/250 on the side of the road,Please pick him up.By the way what rought will you be taking?
A unarmed man is a subject.A armed man is a citizen.
Last time I had an opportunity to shoot outdoors with a scoped Marlin bolt-action .22 I managed to knock a sparrow out of a tree with it. I credited the rifle. These days it's tough to find a place to shoot outdoors even in Fort Wayne, Indiana. So when I go to the indoor range I practice with my handgun(s) for defense. If I can put that silhouette out there as far as a realistic human threat, and get my shots into the "boiler room" I figure I'm doing okay. I don't hunt any more, but if I ever felt the need to become proficient with a rifle (say, .308), scoped or otherwise, I'd go out to somebody's farm and have at it from 100-300 yds, I guess. I have no illusions -- this would put much more pressure on the gun and the sights to get anything like decent performance. Well, not at 100, maybe, but certainly beyond. I must say I often wish for that endless back yard.
Varmint hunter....am flying from Detroit Metro into John Wayne Airport in Newport Beach probably around mid March. Am going to be taking about 250 rounds of .22-250. Asked my bro to pick up some more for me out there just in case I run out. The lady that owns the ranch was out riding her favorite horse and it stepped into a prarie dog complex. Horse stumbled shattered its leg and the owner has had a vendetta towards the dogs ever since. I think she would provide us all the ammuniton herself to kill them all!! Anyway the wheel chair wouldn't be that much of a problem....we could have some scouts push you over the hills and act as gun bearers!! Beach
Beach, that is the damndest story I've ever heard. I simply can not imagine any troop here in Virginia doing such a thing. Hell, there'd be a lawsuit if the kids were even shown a revolver, much less an AK or the rest of the good stuff. And all of that in CA, too. Wow.
mlincoln....go to www.troop90.com and call up their past events page. They used to have about four or five photographs. Now they just have the shotgun team they entered in a local tournament and one picture of the firing line at the ranch. And I'm going there next March...while the kids are at the range my .22-250 is going to be working elsewhere. The neat thing to is that these kids are so clean cut compared to so many of our youth out there today. I guess scouting does a hell of a lot more for the kids than some of the PC liberals would have us believe. Beach
Good for you, Beach! I liked the shooting but I especially like how you guys get outside. My old troop put a huge emphasis on getting out in the woods, carrying your food and water, and putting in the hard miles. I remember lots and lots of camping in the rain and snow. "Character building!" my scoutmaster would shout whenever we looked especially miserable. Then one fateful evening, a bunch of lazy a-holes kicked out the two scoutmasters who took us on this trip and took over themselves. They wanted to turn the troop into an eagle factory and when they went camping it was in RVs. Disgusting. We formed an explorer post and continued to go on some great trips. Especially cool about the explorer post was we had some girls in it. Man, after two weeks in the woods those young ladies sure looked good.Anyway, good for you, Beach. I'm glad that you're giving so much time to help kids. I look back on those scouting trips as my absolute best memories of being young. Once we spent 3 weeks on the water in northern Canada, not seeing even sign of other people. Three weeks with your buddies fishing, canoeing, and looking at moose. It almost makes me cry when I realize I'll never get to do it again with work and all the responsibilities of being an adult.
mlincoln....I can't take credit where it's not due. That troop in Newport Beach, Cal is my brother's troop. I only wish I still lived in sunny, warm, balmy,(did I mention sunny?) California. Intead I'm now in the frozen tundra of Michigan. I don't have a Boy Scout troop but I do have some Navy and Army JROTC cadets that I take on a couple of wilderness/survival camps in the summer to augment their JROTC classes during the school year. Our South Eastern Michigan CMP club additionally provides me free ammunition to teach and coach any kids in our county to shoot smallbore and high power. I coach about 24 kids every week shooting smallbore and another 6 to 8 weekly shooting high power. It's not a lot but if we all do our part we will be successful passing on our American shooting skills to the younger generation. Beach
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Gun Control Disarms Victims, NOT Criminals
I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
Gun Control Disarms Victims, NOT Criminals
SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
A unarmed man is a subject.A armed man is a citizen.