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This is the last straw, I'm done dealing with this
Big Sky Redneck
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Stupid mean * dog! I had prob,ems with this dog biting before but I took advise from friends and posters on here telling me to try and be nice and more tolerant of this pound rescue dog. She bit me before for correcting her for getting into the garbage, after that biting we had a little "King of the hill" dispute, she lost. After that I didn't lay a hand on her, instead trying other enforcement measures including simply puttting on the leash and walking her outside and putting her in the kennel for a few hours. Well three times this week she had scattered garbage all over the place when left alone for a few minutes and tomite she got up on the dinner table and stole dinner. My wife tried to get the leash on her but she ran, I caught her and got the leash on and started outside with her when she slipped her collar. I went back and atempted to get the collar back on without saying a word, she laid into my hand and now I'm dripping blood all over my keyboard.
Lord, give me the strength not to do this!
Right now the dog is outside in the dog transport box on the truck, I'm sitting here in pain with my temper flaring.
If I take her back to the pound, she will die. They will not keep a dog her age that bites, she will be dead within 24 hours. I cannot give her to another owner due to the rules by the pound nor would I want to give her to someone and they get bit. Also the pound will charge me $25 to have her put down. I can take her out and do it for free and faster then they will and right now, it would be satisfying to shoot her in the head with a 30-06.
Hurry up and convince me otherwise please. Remember this dog has bitten before and this time has drawn blood from me, her owner.
Politicians are like diapers, every so often you need to change them, for obvious reasons.
Lord, give me the strength not to do this!
Right now the dog is outside in the dog transport box on the truck, I'm sitting here in pain with my temper flaring.
If I take her back to the pound, she will die. They will not keep a dog her age that bites, she will be dead within 24 hours. I cannot give her to another owner due to the rules by the pound nor would I want to give her to someone and they get bit. Also the pound will charge me $25 to have her put down. I can take her out and do it for free and faster then they will and right now, it would be satisfying to shoot her in the head with a 30-06.
Hurry up and convince me otherwise please. Remember this dog has bitten before and this time has drawn blood from me, her owner.
Politicians are like diapers, every so often you need to change them, for obvious reasons.
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Life is too short to waste on a incorrigible dog.Too bad,folks..back when this country was strong,this wouldn't even be a question.
God,Guts,& GunsHave we lost all 3 ??
This was more of a rant than anything else, ever get ticked and just wanted to tell somebody why?
Politicians are like diapers, every so often you need to change them, for obvious reasons.
That $25 would buy a box of PREMIUM ammo for that 3006.
Or perhaps a LOT of reloading supplies.
Not to make light of your situation but, in the old days a problem dog was taken for a walk because that's the only thing that made sense.
Sometimes it still is!
the easier it will be.Sorry man,just tellin'
you what I would do.BW
IT'S WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEMSELVES THAT MAKES THEM AFRAID.
spiny
'not all who wander are lost'
We rescued a Cocker a few years ago and I learned a huge lesson. Totally brain dead and epileptic to boot. Never again.
We take our two Scotties to Petsmart about twice a month to get food or supplies and often we are there when the local rescue group is having an adoption day. Some of these dogs need to be put down and it is ridiculous to be offering them for adoption.
Get a Scottie
mag as in Maggie Mayhem
1. Working dogs
2. Hunting dogs
3. Dead dogs
Your dog would fall into category three for me.
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I think you have a number of problems here. The dog is more than your family can handle. It has not learned who is in charge in any positive or enduring way. The garbage strewing is a bid for attention, probably while left alone. Not all of you are effectively able to restrain the dog (I don't mean beat it, I mean restrain it). For one thing, if he slips the collar, it's because either the collar is too loose or you should be using a harness instead, to take the strain and possibility of injury off the neck. I hardly ever use a collar with my dog since I discovered the harness.
There are a whole list of training tips here that are missing, not the least of which is teaching the dog that it never is acceptable to bite its masters, or go after "people food," whether on the stove, the table, the coffee table, or a kid's hands.
I agree the dog is too much for the household, and I would vote for taking it back to the pound and describing the control problems. Let them decide if additional training can save the dog's life for another home. I would never recommend that people get more dog than they can physically control, regardless of the supposed calm temperament of the animal. Even the best dogs can freak out unexpectedly over a cat, a loud noise, the vet, a child or other stranger, the postman, the garbage truck. If anyone doesn't have the tools to control the dog under most circustances, by means of prior training, vocal commands, harness, a collar that stays on, a cage (indoor kennel), and other accepted methods as needed without abusing the animal, the future does not bode well.
But it's a bit too convenient to say "shoot the dog." I think gun owners have to be extra cautious about that kind of thing.
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Offerer is right, take it back to the pound 7mm, its for the best.
JuJu (sorry you got bit and sorry for the animal who has to suffer because of some stupid human who had him before you)
If you take her to the pound they may try "training" and give her to a family that has a little kid.
Or you are out 25.00 and they kill her.
Its a biter, it just bit you. There are no more pardons given.
Been there, done that. I'll never "rescue" a older dog again, odda are you wont either after this.
Those people who see nothing but grey areas, no black and white, are lost in the fog.
You should take the animal to the vet, he will have medications that will help the dog.
Be aware tho that it took time for this animal to become this way and it will take time for it to heal. Unfortunately some of them never recover.
We have a pound dog here that will never completely recover. We have worked with him and he lost his over defensiveness and destrutiveness but he has not been able to lose his fear and find security within himself. He stays in the bedroom all the time and the only time he leaves it is when we take him out to go the bathroom.
My border collie is smarter than your honor student.
Snapped at me once , lets just say he knows who the alpa male is . [;)]
He's 4 now , and we go everywhere . I'm having more problems with my 14 yr old .
I rarely punish a dog , but just like kids a timeout don't do much .
Only the strong shall survive !!!
-Candy
"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once"
-David Hume
The dog is older and will be harder to retrain to be what you want and need in your place.
Put her down or take it back to the pound, the cheaper the better.
Sounds cruel but like most on here have said, "do what you have to do".
Bolt
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Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names.-JFK
when my son was 4 our lab who was a big part of every day play for my kids turned on my son and took his head in his jaws and shook him I ran into the yard and tryed to get the dog to drop him
he drug him aways and I followed and jumped the dog. I grabed joseph to me and ran in the house with the dog in persuit.
i cradled him on the floor and held a tea towel to his face . He screamed and bawled, and the girls cryed too. I took the towel away and his ear was in the towel. I put him in the car and drove him to the hospital. He quit crying and didnot speak...he was in shock. they flew in a child's plastic surgeon and 6 hours of surgery later plus, 24 stiches in the ear 7 in the knee to get cartaliage to repair the ear and 72 stiches on his face and head was the the end on that day but he would have three more to go through. I went back home and the police came but to seeif I had quarentined the dog...yep in the garage where the other kids couldent grt bit I took a base ball bat and killed it. [ihad no gun at the time ]
there was no one to sue and I was so angry that I dont even remember doing it ...I will not have a dog that bites children, or might!
the vet was angry I ruined the head but did find evidence of a virus, this dog had never bitten any one before but he used to run off with my girls dolls holding the heads in his mouth , I never thought anything of it till....
Joseph is now 20 and you can see the scars if he gets his head shaved or while he is sleeping one eye has a open slit [it just doesnt close right ] his ear is pretty good and it was saved but it is different than the other.
I would do it again , nothing will hurt my kids if I can stop it!
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SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
For those of you who wish to see the dog helped and don't like forcefull correction, I understand your feelings and beliefs. I am not a dog hater, I treat them well all times and 99% of the time the dogs like me. I have tried many times just using a forcefull and harsh voice telling the dog to "GET OUTA THERE NOW!", sometimes it works sometimes it don't. When that don't work sometimes threatening body language works, when that don't work and good crack on the * has fixed many problems. I have yet to discover how teach a dog from doing wrong by being nice. But I do try. I have owned many dogs and have had mixed results from different forms of correction I have found that sometimes the dog just needs to know who the boss is. Example, when a dog takes a dump on the floor, the first few times can be excused as the dog is learning and a nice calm manner can be used to teach the dog. But after the dog has been in the house for a year and it continues to crap on the floor now it is time to rub it's nose in it and a good smack or two across the beak while taking him out. Just like children, can you teach a kid to stay out of the cookie jar by just saying in a calm voice "stay out of there"? Nope, kids learn how to get away with things, I know, I have 3 of them. Dogs are a lot like kids, sometimes they just need their * beat, even though you do that you still love them and the beating is not a sign of hate, it is a sign of correction and only done when needed.
Now this dog was a few years old when we got her from the pound, don't make me lie to you and give you an exact age because I am forgetfull and at this time do not remember. At first she did very well, she never saw us get mad at her, then she started testing us to see what she could get away with, we treated her as a pup at first, calmly correcting her. She isn't dumb, she knew there was not much to fear after awhile of calm corecting, she didn't listen. Now a little later on, catch her in the garbage and run up and give her a swift kick in the can, now she is getting the message and refrains from getting into the garbage, for awhile. This happened a few times and she started to learn, eat trash, get * kicked. Now here is where it got bad, she KNEW it was wrong to eat trash, how did she know that you ask? When she was caught in the trash she ran, she knew she was getting her * kicked, she knew she was in the wrong. She had her mind made up that she was going to eat trash at any cost, then she started raiding the dinner table, yessir she got her * kicked for that as well and she learned it was wrong to do that. Awhile back she did this, as normal she was about to get it in the rear only this time she turned on me and fought back. The gloves came off that day, and she learned who the dominant dog was that day, I almost shot her but changed my mind after recieving advise from here. You see I do listen to you guys[:D] Abyhow all went well for awhile then the attiude came back, a few more * whuppins was in order and it worked, untill last night. I had tried different forms of correction including quietly leashing her up and taking her out of the house to the kennel, worked for a while untill she decided that was not acceptable to her. Last night she put up a fight, she fought against the leash in a very harsh manner, she made up her mind she was not going out, she almost ripped her ears off but managed to get the collar off and ran back under the bed. I calmly went to her and reached over to put the collar back on, she bared her teeth and bit my hand leaving two puncture wounds and drawing blood. Alrighty then, the door got closed on the room, the bed got moved away and the leash was placed into a choker and it went over her head, she fought like mad against that but I managed to get her out of the house and onto my pickup which has a dog transport box I use for my hounds, in she went, now I am here at the crossorads of decision.
My hounds, have not a mean streak in them, they do love me even though we have had some harsh training including the use of shock collars and whippings. I have shocked these hounds so bad that a lightbulb could be inserted into the rectum and would light up, I have whipped them with the leash for pulling, I even punched one of them in the head for being a lunkhead. Now those hounds have a very high strung temperment, they are bred to hunt, they are not house pets. They live to hunt that is all, now I do spoil them, when they are good they get pampered, they know that and try hard to make me happy but they also know not to goof up. Now Rebel, my oldest hound still likes to chase possums, he did last night again, you folks who do not like harsh punishment woulda not liked what happened to him for that, but you know what? He is learning not to do it ro he will get severe electro shock therapy and if he got a possum in his mouth ohh boy is he going to get it[}:)][:(!] After all of that that dog still is one hell of a dog, happy as the devil and he still gets the excited shakes when he sees me walking to his pen. You see knocking a dog on his keester isn't always bad, they learn right from wrong, they know that if they goof up it will hurt, it hasnt turned them aganst me and I doubt it will. You know something, I will never own anything except hounds now, no more house mutts. These hounds even though they are wirery and hyper are some of the best listening dogs I have ever had and best of all, after the dominant dog battles, they still love me. They know not to make daddy mad[:D]
Can I put keesha down, no problem. You see while I can be a loving person I also have a cold side and the dogs don't want to see that. I used to have a German Shepard that I loved deeply, I treated that dog better then I did my wife, Nikki was my baby. But Nikki messed up one day and nipped at my son, mistake #1 and it proved to be her last mistake. Even though I loved that dog as much as I did she got shot in the head. Sure it hurt me to do it, I admit I cried, but she made a fatal error and I do not regret it one bit. I still have pics of her and miss her, but do not for one second regret killing her. You see I understand dogs are dogs, as much as some try to pretend that dogs are humans on four legs I realize they are animals. Dogs sometimes do things that require harsh punishment, as much as we love them sometimes we need to realize that you just gotta do what needs to be done. Would you invite a convicted felon to live with you knowing at anytime he could kill you? No you wouldn't, why do it with a dog that has proven it is not afraid to bite those who care for it?
Take it to the kennel? Well now here is my thoughts on this, one it will cost me $25, it puts me in the black book of people who cannot ever get another animal from them, and they are owned by the Humane Society, bad people in my opinion. They will cage the dog, scaring it even worse, then after caging it and subjecting to whatever kinds of tests they choose they will then give it a needle or gas treatment that will not kill it as fast as a bullet to the head. If I take this dog for a walk, it wil lbe with me, someone it knows. It will not be put thru the same treatments it would at the Humane Society, it will be walking along with me and then all of a sudden it will cease to exist, fast. I feel a bullet to the head by me will be far less cruel then taking her back to the pound.
Sorry for rambling and I hope noone is offended.
Politicians are like diapers, every so often you need to change them, for obvious reasons.
spiny
'not all who wander are lost'
Tell 'em you found it running loose. Either that or take all ID off the dog and take it to the pound Sunday nite and chain it to their fence. Let 'em discover it there Monday morning and then they can decide what to do with it.
Don't get me wrong, We've got three rescue animals ourselves. Have had plenty of fosters and keepers from the rescue organizations around here, BUT....there's a certain amount of crap you have to put up with in this life and a dog that "bites the hand that feeds it" ain't one of 'em.
Mudge the decisive
I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
Thats right, animals give back what they get, and from me, another animal, you get this. No respect, just as you show none towards 7mm for that remark. Saying what you just did, leaves the impression you believe this dog is being treated badly by 7mm, and I am positive thats not the case. Remember what your mother should have taught you, if you dont have anything positive to say, dont say anything at all.
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SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC