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quote:Originally posted by KEVD18
I agree. He's not the devil because he requires that the bill be settled prior to delivery. That's how he wants it done. Don't like it, buy gas from someone else; but crucifying the guy for minimizing his exposure.
You're right, in theory. But I bet he doesn't stay in business long.
quote:Originally posted by jonk
You did well, and if I could help someone that way I'd be proud to.
However, that doesn't mean the business owner is the devil. I'm not sure where you shop, but usually speaking I have to pay before I can take it home. I suspect that with the economy the way it is and rising costs of fuel, a lot of his customers have taken advantage of him of late. Not that they wanted to, just that they couldn't afford it.
If he didn't enforce this policy HE might go out of business. Maybe he feels bad about it, but at the end of the day he has to feed HIS family.
I admire the woman's independent spirit, but having dealt with elderly relatives who refused to move out of a home that they couldn't maintain, couldn't afford, was in an old, bad neighborhood, and wouldn't consider even moving in with family, at some point you have to say "I'll do what I can to help, but it's your problem." This woman, if she can't afford to heat her house, needs to move out, simple as that, or needs a family member to move in with her and share the costs. There's such a thing as tough love, and her family needs to practice it.
When we put my grandparents in an assisted living home, it was after we found they weren't taking their meds, couldn't even walk to the garage, couldn't get to the toilet, etc. We simply couldn't keep them in the house, and they refused to move in with either my parents or my aunt. It got to the point where they were going to the bathroom in a bucket and wanted us to come over twice a day (20 mile round trip) to empty it. They fought us every step of the way, but finally went and their quality of life went way up for their last 8 years.
Your neighbor might not be that bad off yet, but it's coming. If you care about her, help her for now, but don't let it get that far.
I see your point and it is well taken. But understand this lady. She still drives to the store and all over. She has all her abilities to take care of herself but someone has talked her into getting ride of her checks for her checking account and the ability to have them on hand and use a debit card instead. And this guy has not the ability to take debit cards. So that is where the problem starts. I have recovered my next payment I made in advance to this guy and she is scheduled next week to have a new gas guy set up a new tank for her and have everything changed over to the new guy and he has the ability to take debit cards on the truck as payment. So in my mind the problem is resolved for now and she is able to be warm and independent as long as she can.
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I agree. He's not the devil because he requires that the bill be settled prior to delivery. That's how he wants it done. Don't like it, buy gas from someone else; but crucifying the guy for minimizing his exposure.
You're right, in theory. But I bet he doesn't stay in business long.
You did well, and if I could help someone that way I'd be proud to.
However, that doesn't mean the business owner is the devil. I'm not sure where you shop, but usually speaking I have to pay before I can take it home. I suspect that with the economy the way it is and rising costs of fuel, a lot of his customers have taken advantage of him of late. Not that they wanted to, just that they couldn't afford it.
If he didn't enforce this policy HE might go out of business. Maybe he feels bad about it, but at the end of the day he has to feed HIS family.
I admire the woman's independent spirit, but having dealt with elderly relatives who refused to move out of a home that they couldn't maintain, couldn't afford, was in an old, bad neighborhood, and wouldn't consider even moving in with family, at some point you have to say "I'll do what I can to help, but it's your problem." This woman, if she can't afford to heat her house, needs to move out, simple as that, or needs a family member to move in with her and share the costs. There's such a thing as tough love, and her family needs to practice it.
When we put my grandparents in an assisted living home, it was after we found they weren't taking their meds, couldn't even walk to the garage, couldn't get to the toilet, etc. We simply couldn't keep them in the house, and they refused to move in with either my parents or my aunt. It got to the point where they were going to the bathroom in a bucket and wanted us to come over twice a day (20 mile round trip) to empty it. They fought us every step of the way, but finally went and their quality of life went way up for their last 8 years.
Your neighbor might not be that bad off yet, but it's coming. If you care about her, help her for now, but don't let it get that far.
I see your point and it is well taken. But understand this lady. She still drives to the store and all over. She has all her abilities to take care of herself but someone has talked her into getting ride of her checks for her checking account and the ability to have them on hand and use a debit card instead. And this guy has not the ability to take debit cards. So that is where the problem starts. I have recovered my next payment I made in advance to this guy and she is scheduled next week to have a new gas guy set up a new tank for her and have everything changed over to the new guy and he has the ability to take debit cards on the truck as payment. So in my mind the problem is resolved for now and she is able to be warm and independent as long as she can.
Make sure you stop in and make sure her furnace is up and running also.
Tom[:)]