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How many of you would?
Nighthawk
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Help a Law Enforcement Officer out if you came upon one who was in a struggle with an assailant and no one else was around?
Rugster
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IT'S WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEMSELVES THAT MAKES THEM AFRAID.
Now, in regards to an ongoing struggle, it would be a bad judgement call IMO to just jump right in, seeing as the officer would have no clue who you were siding with and could see you as another potential attacker. I believe the appropriate measure would be to voice your ability to help and let the officer make the decision as to whether he/she wants you involved.
Michael
Paranoid keeps you alive, worry just gives you stomach problems.
sound
Get the job done and come home safe guys.
I rush in where others flee.
I accompanied my father and a State Trooper that day on a very unusual hunt. Pop carried his Remington 700 in .300 Wmag at the request of the Trooper. The Trooper, who knew Pop, gave very few instructions other than not to shoot unless instructed to do so or unless fired upon and asked more advice about the area where Pop thought the convicts might be hold up.
Within a few hours these guys were located and surrounded. The Trooper had Pop set up on a knoll and over a loud speaker the convicts were told to surrender or be shot. The convicts about 300 yards away could see they were in an impossible situation and laid face down in the swamp with their firearms thrown aside.
The Troopers moved in secured the weapons and cuffed the convicts. I remember these guys walking handcuffed past us on the way out of the swamp and looking at Pop and me like it was yesterday. I was cold and wet myself and I guess that made the scared and desparate look in the convicts eyes a little more scarey to me.
There was little fan fair during and after the whole event, just a radio news report and a little write up in the paper. No SWAT teams, helicopter, or special units or devices used. It seemed all so simple and easy to accomplish and no one got hurt or shot. There was a word of thanks from the Troopers on the scene and then about a week later a State Trooper stopped by with a thank you letter.
So to answer the question of the post, yes. But, I sincerely doubt that a citizens help would be accepted unsolicited or by request unless today unless it was an immediate absolute life or death emergency.
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THEY are the ones who don't want us non-cop peasants carrying weapons.
THEY are the ones who are oh-so-highly-trained in the use of firearms.
THEY don't need our help, because we're just a bunch of dumb taxpaying sheep that they have to protect because we're too stupid to be trusted with firearms, and besides that, we're ignorant of the law and proper police procedure, so our interference would ruin their case.
THEY have pepper spray, a club, and a radio to call for "backup" anyway.
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A few decades ago I was hitchiking across the country. I got a ride in Wyoming with a retired detective from Tampa. He told me he was on disability and didn't have long to live. This surprised me because he was about 50, didn't look too sick.
He said a year earlier he had been staking out a grocery store for some check fraud artists. Sure enough the guys came in and tried to write a bogus check. When he went to arrest them it got into a fight. He had to fight two big 25 year old guys by himself. No one would help, and he was calling for help. The store manager and asst manager stood by and did nothing, except dial 911. These were the two guys who had called the police to get the check forgers in the first place.
At one point in the fignt he was trying to throw a bad guy and he went down on his knees, with a bad guy on his back. Busted up both knees.
The bad guys were finally apprehended when back up arrived.
He got phlebitis in both legs and never worked another day. The docs told him it was a matter of time until a big blood clot cut loose from his legs and went to the lungs or brain, Turn out the lights.
So he was taking a last tour of the continenet. He wasn't afraid of hitchikers, he wasn't scared of anything, except that blood clot.
Man I would have paid $20 to have been in that store. Give me a second to pick up a big ketchup or mayonnaise bottle and I would give a bad guy a headache. Or, run up and kick a bad guy in the ribs. He couldn't fight too good with 3 broken ribs.
The other case I read somewhere. A guy out west had been hunting with his son. They were driving on the prarie on a rural highway. They passed a trooper who had been writing a ticket. They saw the bad guy had knocked down the trooper and was going for the trooper's gun.
The guy pulled over immediately, he was 200 yards past the fight. He pulled out the .270 and laid it over the window, and shot the bad guy in the chest. The trooper was ok.
Be assured, I would have been the right man for the job to take that shot.
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Who would not help another human being if they could?
He Dog
besides, you never know, that cop may catch me speeding someday.....[:)]
Just by loudly offering to help the cop may end the struggle right there if you have enough presence... a well placed foot can also do a lot of good without risking yourself signifigantly. (or knee, or fist)
Help a Law Enforcement Officer out if you came upon one who was in a struggle with an assailant and no one else was around?
Rugster
"Toujours Pret"
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There have been a couple of other incidents where I've helped a LEO, always with their thanks.
I would do it again.
Oh, yeah... the shotgun wasn't loaded.
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Why would any American not?
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Edited to add:I dont think a person should risk their lives or those of a loved one in any way.
Rugster
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However, assuming the situation was pretty clear and my help was necessary or would be appreciated (as in, it would bring the whole situation to a close sooner rather than later) then yes, of course I would help.
Arielle
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