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Absolute Trash

doomsknight62doomsknight62 Member Posts: 239 ✭✭✭
edited December 2010 in General Discussion
I have shot many guns in my time, but I cannot say that there are weapons I have fired that have proven to be completely worthless. They may have something wrong with them, but they have good features, also.
What do you guys think? Are there any guns out there that are just completely terrible?

" God is in His Heaven, All is Right in the World. "
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  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    COLT

    (stir-stir-stir)

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    Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!kimberkid@gunbroker.zzn.com
    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
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  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    It all depends on the use intended for the firearm. If you are going to count on it to protect your life and your families lives then there are many who don't pass muster. I would not trust anything that I have experienced malfunctions with or that I haven't shot extensively to prove its functionability. If its just for plinking, then its up to the user to decide if it functions adequately enouph to suit them. I personally dont like cheap stuff. I feel that good stuff isnt cheap and cheap stuff isnt good but sometimes you can find a happy medium. Stick with the good stuff and you will be happier for it.

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
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  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Poor quality outlives the short sweetness of low price".

    Don't know who said it, but you can bank on those words.

    "If you ain't got pictures, I wasn't there."
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

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    Mark Twain
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  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    Not necessarly in order:

    1)Talon
    2)Lorcin
    3)Raven
    4)Jennings
    5)Davis
    6)High Point
    7)Any firearm that is made with materials better suited for your childs die-cast toys.
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  • punchiepunchie Member Posts: 2,792 ✭
    edited November -1
    The main attribute for many of those on interstates list is

    1. CHEAP
    2. CHEAP
    3. CHEAP
    4. Most are heavy enough to hurt bad when thrown
    5. Make decent paperweights
    6. Shipping cost for warranty exceeds worth of gun

    Another I would like to add to the list is any RG revolver.

    AN ARMED SOCIETY IS A POLITE SOCIETY
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  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    RG10
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I believe most of the guns on interstate's list are made by the Jennings family, who insists on making guns out of soft metals like "pot metal" or zinc, which wear and begin to break down from the first shot. You can have a catastrophic failure literally on any given round, potentially.

    These guns, while they may go off for a while if well cleaned, deburred inside and oiled, are in my opinion much too soft to be reliable for serious purpose. It is too bad these guys haven't had the sense to upgrade to a stronger metal, which might revolutionize the performance and opinion of guns like the Jennings, Lorcin and Davis. They certainly have the distribution to profit from improved quality, even if the guns had to go up a few bucks in price with better steel.

    - Life NRA Member
    "If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    quote:I believe most of the guns on interstate's list are made by the Jennings family, who insists on making guns out of soft metals like "pot metal" or zinc, which wear and begin to break down from the first shot. You can have a catastrophic failure literally on any given round, potentially. What a lot of nonsense. Anybody got any ACTUAL evidence of such "catastrophic" failures?
    I agree that they are cheap, not the strongest and no where near perfect - BUT - they fill a need and provide affordable self-defense to those who can afford no better.

    Now, if you want to discuss a totally worthless gun, how about any DAO semi-automatic -particularly one chambered in 9MM????

    Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    KimberKid....your "stir" doesn't seem to be working. I think a little more subtlety would get better results. Your attempt is too blatant.

    Mudge the unimpressed

    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • sjc1sjc1 Member Posts: 130 ✭
    edited November -1
    I have found most people that own Kimbers are really envious of those that own Colts.
    There are Colts and everything else is just a hammer.
    That ought to stir it up!
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  • hondohondo Member Posts: 181 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Now really guys! I will have you know that 12 models of the Davis and 2 models of the HIPOINT handguns have passed California's new "Safe Gun Test". The test includes extensive drop testing and reliabity functioning with live ammo. What more could you ask from the leaders in "sensible gun laws? he,he ........Hondo
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  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    mudge - Yeah, but folks have come to expect it from me

    sjc1 - Envious of those that own Colts? I don't think so, if you can afford a Kimber, you can afford a Colt ... its just a choice.

    hondo - To think, for the price of 1 Kimber I could be the proud owner of all 12 models of the Davis and 2 models of the HIPOINT ... to me thats almost as ironic as California's new "Safe Gun Test

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    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
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  • S&W ManS&W Man Member Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shootist - I have personlly seen (not my guns) the slides from two jennings going downrange behind the bullet. I did not see it happen, but I saw a Lorcin that had "evaporated" when fired.

    The second admendment GUARANTEES the other nine and the Constitution!
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  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shootist.....

    my brother almost blew my head off with a babit frame cheap gun...
    my ear ringing lasted almost a month ,and still have a fragment of the cartrige in my right eyebrow .....

    They do fail catastroficaly as posted. specialy the rim fire ones that permit up to 20% missalighment of barrel forcing cone and cylinder bore (call it the pling--Jam--Boom! sindrome)

    JD

    400 million cows can't be wrong ( EAT GRASS !!! )
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  • sjc1sjc1 Member Posts: 130 ✭
    edited November -1
    kimberkid;
    I agree with you. I was just trying to stir things up seeing that you did not have much luck. Kimbers are fine handguns. I am glad that they are in business and doing well. To be honest, Colt and Smith&Wesson need a company like Kimber to keep them on their toes and if they are not on their toes, then Kimber will pass them by.

    Edited by - sjc1 on 09/11/2002 17:38:08
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  • hondohondo Member Posts: 181 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Kimberkid, not to worry I only use my Davis as a backup for my WWII "Liberty .45"......Hondo
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  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    hondo-


    ROFLMAO


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    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shootist --
    I'm beginning to wonder if you and JudgeDread are BOTH skipping your meds...

    - Life NRA Member
    "If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
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  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What? havent you ever do the forensics on a .22 frame blowout? due to
    missalightment is more common than you think....

    JD

    400 million cows can't be wrong ( EAT GRASS !!! )
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry Judge. I just find it a little silly, and dangerous to a newcomer to shooting, to be recommending a Jennings over a Smith & Wesson DA 9mm, on a thread about junk guns. That's all. I don't even shoot 9mm anymore, and I don't choose to buy DA/SAs, but if I needed a real gun I'd sure take one over any Jennings family product. To say otherwise is goofy.

    - Life NRA Member
    "If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
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  • eastwood44mageastwood44mag Member Posts: 2,655 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Everything I own, to this point[:(]

    O Lord,
    grant me the Serenity
    to accept the things
    I cannot change
    the courage to change the things I can,
    and the supreme firepower to make the difference.
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  • eastwood44mageastwood44mag Member Posts: 2,655 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    This post doesn't have a point, I just don't want my counter at 666 anymore

    O Lord,
    grant me the Serenity
    to accept the things
    I cannot change
    the courage to change the things I can,
    and the supreme firepower to make the difference.
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  • chunkstylechunkstyle Member Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Shootist3006
    Anybody got any ACTUAL evidence of such "catastrophic" failures?


    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/guns/more/rating.html

    "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid, it is true that most stupid people are conservative."
    -John Stuart Mill
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  • gonepostalgonepostal Member Posts: 604 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:KimberKid....your "stir" doesn't seem to be working.


    thats because most agree ,as do I

    colt the finest unfinished firearm in the world

    give me one and i will sell it ,metal is to soft ,go ahead try it ,you can scratch it with your finger nail

    i will now put ten round mags in all my pre ban guns ,just to show defiance

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  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
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    "Our finest tribute to our fallen dead would be to convince their sons that we were not Rambo and neither are they. -Gus Hasford
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  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    JUDGE DREAD:
    Where you been?
    Glad to have you back.
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  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
    JUDGE DREAD:
    Where you been?
    Glad to have you back.


    That sound you hear is Bullzeye banging his head against the wall.
    "Our finest tribute to our fallen dead would be to convince their sons that we were not Rambo and neither are they. -Gus Hasford
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  • Doc FeelgoodDoc Feelgood Member Posts: 542 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Eastwood, smart move.
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  • the loveable rat...the loveable rat... Member Posts: 969 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    jd- "when the going gets weird, the weird get going". i still remember the asteroid deal you warned us about...welcome back...
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  • gauche_but_honestgauche_but_honest Member Posts: 171 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
    JUDGE DREAD:
    Where you been?
    Glad to have you back.


    ???????????????????????????????????????????
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  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    NO the judge is NOT back.
    Take a look at the date this was first posted.
    Sheesh.....

    The gene pool needs chlorine.
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  • the loveable rat...the loveable rat... Member Posts: 969 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    oops. i can put away the tinfoil hat now, darn it...
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  • Hunter375Hunter375 Member Posts: 612 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Helwan Brigadier. Picked it up to be a truck box gun, but it won't fire a mag (8 rounds) without at least 4 jams. My Colt Mk IV is the most unreliable gun I have besides that.

    Liberal compassion inhibits progress.........think Republican and prosper!
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  • CA sucksCA sucks Member Posts: 4,310
    edited November -1
    that makes at least two who didnt notice that eastwood's post came 2 years after Judge Dread's post.
    He's not back, eastwood just bumped an old topic that he had posted in
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    CA Sucks, make that 3! I was parsing through this thread, saw the Judge's name and thought "Wow, GREAT! The Judge is back!" Then I looked at the dates . . . . Bummer.

    "There is nothing lower than the human race - except the french." (Mark Twain) ". . . And liberals / demoMAGGOTS" (me)
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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
    edited November -1
    any reason you dug up this moldie oldie Henry?
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  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The window has closed, but,
    The door is ajar...
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  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,243 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    Some old time names in this son-of-a-buck uh-huh.
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  • armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OHHHHH the porch light is on but nobody's home.
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  • NOAHNOAH Member Posts: 9,690
    edited November -1
    you just wish you had 1[:(!]quote:Originally posted by kimberkid
    COLT

    (stir-stir-stir)

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    [:O] Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!<P>kimberkid@gunbroker.zzn.com<P><br>
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