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Shooting a Zebra??? Why?????
pabooger
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Watched a hunting show today, where they were archery hunting for Zebras. Don't get me wrong, I love to hunt as much as the next guy, maybe more, but this kinda turned my stomach. What sport is there in waiting for a Zebra to come to the watering hole and shhoting him with an arrow? Kinda like going out behinf the barn and shooting the old mans pony!!!!
Shows like this, in my opinion, are what gets these anti hunting fanatics on our backs!!! Just my opinion!
Guess ill go do some real hunting and go down to the local farm and shoot some cats!!!
Pabooger
Shows like this, in my opinion, are what gets these anti hunting fanatics on our backs!!! Just my opinion!
Guess ill go do some real hunting and go down to the local farm and shoot some cats!!!
Pabooger
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Why does man kill? He kills for food. But not only for food; frequently, he must have a beverage.
I'm far more interested in the defensive and tactical aspects of shooting, and have hunted very little, and lost interest. I'd say if you're interested in killing, join the military where the targets shoot back, and need neutralizing.
- Life NRA Member
"If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
I do hunt, however, and eat what I hunt.
A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand
So many guns, so little money . . .
There is so much more to it than the simplistic "if you're interested in killing" phrase would imply. Actually, that phrase is quite insulting. Unless you are some sort of unfeeling automaton, every kill brings with it an odd mixture of joy and satisfaction of a job well done, but tinged with a sadness at taking a life. If you've never been there, you probably wouldn't understand.
Society today has gotten so disconnected from Ma Nature that sometimes it seems like folks have forgotten that their food comes from "beautiful dead animals". Ever thought about the cute little calf that grew up to become the burger you tossed on the grill last night?
I sure as Hell ain't about to apologize because I am willing and able to kill my own food, instead of paying somebody else to do my killing for me, which is what you do every time you buy a steak, or eat a tuna sandwich. Not saying that everybody should have to be a hunter, as not everybody is cut out for it. All I ask is that you don't put me down as you're chewing that store bought meat, okay?
And, yes, I do have some antlers on the wall. Ain't going to apologize for those, either. I ate the critters that originally wore those antlers, and whenever I look at them on the wall, I get to remember in vivid detail the animals and the hunt itself.
But there aint no Damm horse on the wall, and a Zebra to me is a Horse!!! My wife will tell you That the only horses * around this house is me!!!
I might be a red neck but I ain't eating no darn striped horse!! It just ain't right I tell ya. Pa.
A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand
Mudge the non-hunter
I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
If any hunter questions the validity of going after such game, remember, that one can easily come up with a reason, on par with your reasoning for not hunting such gam as Zebra, why one should not hunt whitetails.
"Sometimes the people have to give up some individual rights for the safety of society."
-Bill Clinton(MTV interview)
Pa
Why does man kill? He kills for food. But not only for food; frequently, he must have a beverage.
I have as high a regard for you as I do any member on this board, but ..........., we will have to agree to disagree on this subject.
Like I said before, not everybody is cut out to be a hunter. That's fine. I don't begrudge you for your decision not to participate, as long as you don't put me down at the same time you are eating your beefsteak. To do so is rather hypocritical, don't you think?
Comparing the mind of a mature whitetail buck to that of a three month old puppy is ludicrous. Some day, just for the heck of it, go out afield and try (unarmed, of course), to see how close that you can get to one! Keep in mind, I am not referring to a deer in a zoo, or one of the many that hang around suburbia. Try it with one out in the wild. Then try approaching a three month old puppy. After you have done these things, come back and tell me which was easier!
As far as "harmless vegetarians" go, doesn't that pretty much describe just about everything we all eat every day? Do you eat beef, or any other meat, in any form? Pretty harmless vegetarians there, that somebody killed so that you could eat it. Are you going to go up to your butcher and take him to task for that? I wouldn't think so. So, somebody gets paid to kill, that's okay. I am willing to do it myself, that's bad? Sorry, I don't get it.
- Life NRA Member
"If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
Probably would bew better for society if people stopped going to the shooting range-I mean there really is no reason to have to be a good shooter these days. And since it really has no purpose in modern society, there really is no reason for it.
"Sometimes the people have to give up some individual rights for the safety of society."
-Bill Clinton(MTV interview)
When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
As for shooting in general, practice for defense and tactical applications has definitely not gone out of style, which is why places like Gunsite and Frontsight are so well attended.
- Life NRA Member
"If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
The process of prepareing a chicken for the dinner table would probably send most in today's society to the bathroom vomiting. I believe the generations of the last 75 years have been softened to the real world of food processing. My mother and grandmother thought nothing of grabbing a couple of chickens, beheading them, plucking, and cutting them up for the frying pan. Many of todays men & women are replused by touching the "oooohhhh, icky slimey bird" they just unwrapped from the bar coded package...how would they ever get the courage to kill one?...so they let someone else cook it or eat vegetables instead.
Genesis states that the animals were put on earth, and man was to have dominion over them. Doesn't mean "abuse" them, it meant to have dominance over them. Since the beginning of time man has used animals for transportation, food, clothing, and companionship. Anthropormorphism (giving human qualities and/or characteristics to things not human) has become the mantra of the animal rights movement.
Man is essentially at the top of the food chain, his digestive system is that of a carnavore, not an herbivore....so if it's a Zebra or a cow, it's still food to carnavores.....whether we can overcome our own mental perceptions of this, is another issue.
I'll agree that some hunters do not portray a positive and professional image at times to the non-hunting public, not all hunters are blood drinking killers....I respect the positions of those who do not hunt, only hope to persuade them to my side of the debate.
Edited by - Rembrandt on 09/07/2002 18:57:40
Rameleni1
SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
At the beginning of TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE some kids pick up a hitchhiker who starts talking, with great relish, about being the guy with the hammer in a stockyard, bashing cattle's brains out. It's as much his attitude as the description that makes it disturbing. He enjoys it too much. When I talk cheap thrills, that's what I'm getting at. Pointless killing doesn't interest me personally. I shot a sparrow out of a tree once with my scoped .22, and as impressed as I was by the accuracy, when I saw the bird carcass on the ground for no good reason, I realized I'd rather see that bird enjoying itself up in the tree. So I'm not much of a sport hunter, although I would have no problem dispatching pests or animals presenting an imminent danger to people. I guess I need a reason, and "whee" is not my idea of a word to shout when shooting something, anymore. Okay, that was too glib. Let's just say I'd rather shoot for a reason.
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"If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
L.O.L. Pa
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Why does man kill? He kills for food. But not only for food; frequently, he must have a beverage.
- Life NRA Member
"If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
LOL!
Dang, ya just HAD ta bring THAT up, didn't ya?!?
What is going on around here lately. We used to have people who had some basic knowledge of what they were talking about. I am starting to think the old gang just got tired of shallow thinking.
If the Zebra was stupid a horse, Why did the good Lord put him in a black and white suite?. There is a reason he has a black and white coat. He Dog is probably the only one that has any idea. As clouder used to say ZZZIIIIIIIIIINNNNNGGGGGGG. Why has General Discussion turned into Major Wining?.
The most important things, Are not things.
Why does man kill? He kills for food. But not only for food; frequently, he must have a beverage.
zebras,goats and carribo are numero 1 plages in overgraze.....
AND africans eat zebra (just taste like Horse) bitter than cow meat
and quite harder (like boot soles).
400 million cows can't be wrong ( EAT GRASS !!! )
AlleninAlaska
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He who dares not offend cannot be honest.
-- Thomas Paine
What bothers me are the jerks that show up on my property (Colorado backcountry) that are poaching on my land, kill a mule deer only to hacksaw the antlers and leave the carcass. Or the brave hunters who tree'd a 3-legged mountain lion and started throwing rocks and sticks at it just to get their dogs riled up, because it wasn't a "trophy."
If you hunt for the meat, I have no problem. If you're out there to prove you're a man to all the guys back at the office and endangering me and my family, and wasting meat that someone could use, we have a problem.
A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand
Mudge the non hunter, non believer
I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
"Sometimes the people have to give up some individual rights for the safety of society."
-Bill Clinton(MTV interview)
Why does man kill? He kills for food. But not only for food; frequently, he must have a beverage.
Edited by - DancesWithSheep on 09/08/2002 12:23:22
Edited by - DancesWithSheep on 09/08/2002 12:34:56
Hunting a Zebra is about like hunting a wild horse. I think you should be issued a permit...
RIGHT AFTER YOU'VE FACED OFF WITH A CAPE BUFFALO AT 100 YDS. WITH A 30/06. Nobody allowed to back you up, only bolt actions, but you can have all the ammo you want.
Whomever walks away from the encounter gets the Zebra permit, and my money's elsewhere than on you!
Nord
Now THAT's a horse race....
General comment...
As Dr. Phil would say, and as all your good wives know, you can argue with what someone thinks, but it's tough to deny how they feel about something. In this case, I remarked on the letter in Guns & Ammo and expressed my own personal waning interest in hunting (and, to the extent that our lakes have become seriously polluted and the fish have tumors, etc.) fishing. I just don't get the same kick I used to out of it -- how do I know? I'm not motivated to do it much any more. Oh, if I'm invited to the lake, I'll take my tackle box, but then I have to buy a license at the bait shop. And I haven't bought a hunting license in years.
This has nothing to do with criticism of others' activities, excepting perhaps the seria-killer-in-the-making who tortures animals in youth and kills people in adulthood -- the extreme case. As I told you, my well-loved cousin is an avid hunter. Both of us are members (I'm a Lifer) of the NRA. The Second Amendment is about militia style guns first and foremost, so I'm in good company, nor do I begrudge someone else a point of view. While the letter in Guns & Ammo was remarkable because it describes "smiley faced" men standing over dead animals, that was his quote. I think it's been an interesting thread, anyway, but reveals that there is some sensitivity on the topic. I've hunted, and I'm prepared to shoot in defense. If I have any ambiguity intellectually on the subject, it has to do with unnecessary killing -- whatever that means. But this is a personal line I draw for myself, not for you.
- Life NRA Member
"If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878