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300-gun arsenal seized from Long Island, NY
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An arsenal of more than 300 guns, many of them illegal, has been seized from a Long Island home around the corner from a high school, and the homeowner was arrested, authorities said Thursday.
Jay Steiner, 66, was arrested in late January after an undercover Suffolk police officer visited his Centereach home.
Steiner has been charged with criminal possession of a weapon and is free on bail.
"Wow!" said one surprised neighbor. "That's a lot of guns. It's scary."
Police were acting on a tip from a gun owner who had taken his weapon to Steiner, said Suffolk District Attorney Thomas Spota.
More on NBCNewYork.com
"The guns were stored all throughout the house," said Spota, as he stood in front of a table filled with the seized weapons.
In all, 85 illegal handguns and 230 rifles and shotguns were found, as well as thousands of rounds of ammunition.
"He had more firepower than the detectives who arrested him," said Spota.
Investigators said Steiner had once held a federal gun license, permitting him to buy and sell weapons, but it expired in 2004.
Steiner maintained a business card, prosecutors said, displaying that expired license number.
Several calls to Steiner's lawyer, William Eppig of West Islip, were not returned.
It's unclear what the Centereach man was doing with all the guns.
The guns are being examined to determine whether any have been stolen or used in crimes.
Steiner had no pistol license for any of the handguns, according to Spota.
http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/300-gun-arsenal-seized-from-long-island-ny-home
In most states there would be no crime here. JMO
Jay Steiner, 66, was arrested in late January after an undercover Suffolk police officer visited his Centereach home.
Steiner has been charged with criminal possession of a weapon and is free on bail.
"Wow!" said one surprised neighbor. "That's a lot of guns. It's scary."
Police were acting on a tip from a gun owner who had taken his weapon to Steiner, said Suffolk District Attorney Thomas Spota.
More on NBCNewYork.com
"The guns were stored all throughout the house," said Spota, as he stood in front of a table filled with the seized weapons.
In all, 85 illegal handguns and 230 rifles and shotguns were found, as well as thousands of rounds of ammunition.
"He had more firepower than the detectives who arrested him," said Spota.
Investigators said Steiner had once held a federal gun license, permitting him to buy and sell weapons, but it expired in 2004.
Steiner maintained a business card, prosecutors said, displaying that expired license number.
Several calls to Steiner's lawyer, William Eppig of West Islip, were not returned.
It's unclear what the Centereach man was doing with all the guns.
The guns are being examined to determine whether any have been stolen or used in crimes.
Steiner had no pistol license for any of the handguns, according to Spota.
http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/300-gun-arsenal-seized-from-long-island-ny-home
In most states there would be no crime here. JMO
Comments
Did the jerk get his $500?
Why in the world is this a crime?
And yet in a moment of what could be called hostile action, nobody was hurt/shot. Such a threat (rolling eyes)
I'm curious to know what characteristic(s) make the guns in question "illegal
I would bet that they require all pistols to be licensed. No license = illegal.
No Crimes were committed as reported.
In most states there would be no crime here. JMO
I guess he should have moved.
quote:Originally posted by wanted man
I'm curious to know what characteristic(s) make the guns in question "illegal"....were they stolen? Did he have full-auto or suppressors, without licenses?.........or did he have too many for the "comfort" of the local JBTs??
"He had more firepower than the detectives who arrested him," said Spota.
And yet in a moment of what could be called hostile action, nobody was hurt/shot. Such a threat (rolling eyes)
I had the exact same thought, you just posted before I did.
I hope someone hosts a blanket party for the rat.
the heavy hand will not just stop here, but will keep targeting folks one at a time a few here a few more there til its done.
we( gun owners) wont stand as a whole,the man will wisper to the women over the table , did you hear what they did to so and so.
they wont do that here, til we are all done yes they will.jmho
Is collecting legal firearms & ammo now illegal? Overzealous prosecutors & political officials trying to ride the gun control tidal wave are the reason for this.
In NY you probably have to have a permit for each handgun you own, and he apparently didn't have any permits, hence he was breaking their law. Outrageous law, absolutely, but he chose to live there.
As a former dealer, he knew this.
This shouldn't even be an issue in America. [V]
I hope someone hosts a blanket party for the rat.
My point exactly,,,eroding the rigths one at a time...and continuing every day,,,its just very frustating to see all the LAWS put in place further eroding the peoples rights....and many do not see this-
No pistol permit makes all the handguns pretty much illegal unless Antiques..
quote:Originally posted by wanted man
I'm curious to know what characteristic(s) make the guns in question "illegal"....were they stolen? Did he have full-auto or suppressors, without licenses?.........or did he have too many for the "comfort" of the local JBTs??
Is that permit as in a single permit to own hand guns...
Or does each handgun require its own permit... ?
Here in NC a permit from the Sheriff's office OR a valid CCW is required to purchase.
The seller retains either the permit or a copy of the valid CCW at time of transaction.
The seller is required to retain the permit or CCW copy to show proof of transfer.
So... EACH handgun requires its own permit or CCW copy...
quote:Originally posted by retroxler58
quote:Originally posted by MFI
No pistol permit makes all the handguns pretty much illegal unless Antiques..
quote:Originally posted by wanted man
I'm curious to know what characteristic(s) make the guns in question "illegal"....were they stolen? Did he have full-auto or suppressors, without licenses?.........or did he have too many for the "comfort" of the local JBTs??
Is that permit as in a single permit to own hand guns...
Or does each handgun require its own permit... ?
Here in NC a permit from the Sheriff's office OR a valid CCW is required to purchase.
The seller retains either the permit or a copy of the valid CCW at time of transaction.
The seller is required to retain the permit or CCW copy to show proof of transfer.
So... EACH handgun requires its own permit or CCW copy...
No pistol permit makes all the handguns pretty much illegal unless Antiques..
quote:Originally posted by wanted man
I'm curious to know what characteristic(s) make the guns in question "illegal"....were they stolen? Did he have full-auto or suppressors, without licenses?.........or did he have too many for the "comfort" of the local JBTs??
I missed the last line, where it said he had no pistol permits...my bad
This is still WRONG, MNSHO
"a gun owner" should be boiled in used motor oil.., what a low life pile of she-it !!
some people here have a distinct lack of ability to face the facts. its been many, many years since "shall not be infringed" was the law of the land. we're never going to be at a place where the gun laws of the 1800's/early 1900's exist again. theres just no way. we cant even get GUN OWNERS to agree with no infringements of any kind. even members here, reputed gun enthusiasts in good standing(although theres some question to those credentials), have asked the "why do you need that" type questions. if alleged "gun people" cant even agree on a standard of laws, how do you ever think we'll sway the antis? guns for sale at every hardware store, no papers? cheap full autos again with no papers? be serious. its not going to happen.
you can bang your heads against the wall until you pass out or get tired of the squishy sound, but the fact of the matter is that from here, its only going to get worse. we will never beat them back to any appreciable degree. they will continue to march forward to their objective of an unarmed society and every shooting, every media branded lunatic who gets arrested with dozens if not hundreds of guns and tens of thousands of rounds of ammo because they were stupid and did something illegal is going to help them get there.
this thing of ours took the first big hit in '34. that was the time to end this nonsense. instead, we let it slide. then came the double barreled bs in '68. '86, '90, '93, '94...
i turned 18 in 2003, when i started voting, in so far as its possible, for pro gun candidates. before i was even old enough to vote, "shall not be infringed" was dead and buried; so dont go blaming my realistic outlook on why our gun rights are for shame at this point. this is largely the fault of the baby boomers, so if that you then its your generations(in a large but not all encompassing way) fault. thanks.
If those were all antiques, C&R's, revolvers, long gun manually operated shotguns, rifles, he would have no problem- or if he lived in a place like Wyoming, Utah, Idaho, Montana, etc.
It sucks to live in a trendy state with a lot of people, bottom line. I mean c'mon, it's Long Island, they practically throw you in jail in NY state just for owning a BB gun now.
What a shame.
Amen, scary all right! How many people did he shoot anyway?
yet another textbook example, of why one should NOT buy a large quantity of modern semi-auto handguns or assault rifles, in certain states. They are considered "gangster friendly" and you will be raided or SWAT teamed for it.
If those were all antiques, C&R's, revolvers, long gun manually operated shotguns, rifles, he would have no problem- or if he lived in a place like Wyoming, Utah, Idaho, Montana, etc.
It sucks to live in a trendy state with a lot of people, bottom line. I mean c'mon, it's Long Island, they practically throw you in jail in NY state just for owning a BB gun now.
This statement is far from the truth. Conjecture and uninformed opinions should not be substituted for facts.
Not picking on you, but I would not accept a free roundtrip ticket to New York.
Yes, it's unconstitutional.
I'm not allowed to own full auto stuff in New York, but I don't have 85 M16's....
How about we stop feeling sorry for this jackwagon that KNOWINGLY had 85 illegal handguns.
Yes, it's unconstitutional.
I'm not allowed to own full auto stuff in New York, but I don't have 85 M16's....
Sounds like you are the type of person to turn a gun collector in, possibly for the $500.
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How about we stop feeling sorry for this jackwagon that KNOWINGLY had 85 illegal handguns.
Yes, it's unconstitutional.
I'm not allowed to own full auto stuff in New York, but I don't have 85 M16's....
The problem is you can do absolutely nothing and be completely legal, then continue to do absolutley nothing and become a felon. These guns were legal when his FFL was valid, as soon as it expired he became a felon. Just like all of my magazines were legal, the govenor signs a piece of paper and now if I don't get rid of them I am a felon. That's why "people feel sorry for him". In this country you can do nothing and still be committing a crime.
Also the second line you wrote should answer the question in your first line.