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Differences Of Opinion
Big Sky Redneck
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It seems that alot of us has a different way of looking at some things and I wonder why that is. Is it because some of us believe when we think we are right the next guy with a differing view is wrong? Let's take the infamous .223 debate which has been going on for a few weeks now. If you feel it is a bad cartridge for deer, does it make it wrong when somebody thinks it's ok? If I think it is a good cartridge does that make me stupid? I own several different rifles in larger calibers but I choose to use the .223 whenever possible because it is more of a pleasure and cheaper to shoot. Am I a bad person? I pick on the the guys with the larger guns just to agitate and because some honestly believe you need maximum horse power for deer. Am I wrong to think that? I have shot deer with my WTBY Vanguard in .300 Wtby mag, in my opinion that is just too much gun. Heck even to me a 30-06 is not necassary for deer but it is used alot around here. It's all on what you want. I apologize for insulting anybody for using a large gun but some of that was done in retaliation to comments made to me. There are two fella's here that have outright gotten nasty over the .223 debate, why is that? Did I get nasty? If I did I'm sorry. I shouldnt have stooped down to that level, although there is one guy in particular whom I cannot stand and have no use for him after I seen a comment he made, I will not appologize to him.
Take some other subjects we arque about. Why do some of us get so wound up over some things? Is it that some subjects hit home with us and we feel a need to defend it. Is calling somebody names the answer to getting our opinion across? I admit I have doen that before and I shouldnt, I also apologize for calling sombody names and I hope I never got to the point of being nasty. I have a short temper and sometimes I speak(type) before I think about what I'm about to say. Like I said, I mean no disrespect to any of you, well excpet for one.
There are a couple subjects that perk me up. One of which is the trucking industry. There are a few truckers on here I can relate to, there are some times that non truckers have a problem seeing our point of view and will chastise us for feeling a certain way. I take some things personal about trucking. I love the job, I love the freedom. At 31 years old I have seen this country in a way that some only think about. I have seen every major city in this country, been to every state except for HA and AK. I'v seen alot of bad things and I have seen alot of good thanks to trucking. There are alot of times I feel like I'm beinf treated as a lower class individual because of the truck, I feel discriminated against because of the truck. People think truckers are bad, dope smoking pillpopping whore chasing bums. Well some og them are but not all of us. Why do some states act as if the trucks cause all the problems on the road. Every time a truck get's into an accident, people say "damned truckers need to be put on a leash, they are dangerous and need to be controlled". It's been proven already thet 80% of car/truck accidents are caused by the car driver but the media will never tell you that. They see us as a group of missfits that needs strict regualtion. Truckers are some of the safest drivers out on the road today but nobody see's that. They use the excuse that we are big and slow, that we are dangerous and we need to be controlled. People get offended when a truck get's in front of them, I'v heard people say they get eyeballed in the mirror and then cut off, while that may happen some times it's not common. Climb up in a truck and see why we do things we do. Find out what it's like to have the pedal on the floor with a heavy truck and not being able get the speed up, you say we hog the road, be patient, we are trying to move but sometimes it takes time. Have you ever seen somebody speed up when a truck is trying to pass? People do that, then all the others pass on the right boxing the truck into the left lane, now the guy directly behind the truck says we are hogging the road. We live on those roads and we have unwritten rules, some of you will never understand them and will continue to judge us in a way that makes you angry. In simple words, you drive your vehicle, I'll drive mine. When you get home and have dinner, I'll still be on the road trucking away. Like I said I love it, it's a lifestyle not a job. The more peolle understand how things work with us the better things will be. You would be sueprised how much easier the trip would go if you allowed us to flow with the traffic instead of trying to "conqure"(sp?) the truck.
Anyhow, sorry about the ranting. All I'm trying to say is sometimes we have differences of opinion. Just because we differ from somebidy elses opinion doesent make them wrong, or us right. Maybe we could benefit from others opinions instead of fighting them. Maybe if the opinions where put in a way that is not insulting it would help also. I'll try to be nicer and watch my mouth. I'll admit when I make a mistake, can y'all do the same? We are all gunowners, we need to get along. We need to share ideas and and form freindships. Have you ever heard the saying, " United we stand, divided we fall"? Well alot of us here will fall because we get bullheaded and don't want to listen to any body elses opinions and go on the defensive. Like I said I'm guilty of that too and I'll try to behave.
Thanks for reading and if ya dont' like it, too bad!LOL
Take some other subjects we arque about. Why do some of us get so wound up over some things? Is it that some subjects hit home with us and we feel a need to defend it. Is calling somebody names the answer to getting our opinion across? I admit I have doen that before and I shouldnt, I also apologize for calling sombody names and I hope I never got to the point of being nasty. I have a short temper and sometimes I speak(type) before I think about what I'm about to say. Like I said, I mean no disrespect to any of you, well excpet for one.
There are a couple subjects that perk me up. One of which is the trucking industry. There are a few truckers on here I can relate to, there are some times that non truckers have a problem seeing our point of view and will chastise us for feeling a certain way. I take some things personal about trucking. I love the job, I love the freedom. At 31 years old I have seen this country in a way that some only think about. I have seen every major city in this country, been to every state except for HA and AK. I'v seen alot of bad things and I have seen alot of good thanks to trucking. There are alot of times I feel like I'm beinf treated as a lower class individual because of the truck, I feel discriminated against because of the truck. People think truckers are bad, dope smoking pillpopping whore chasing bums. Well some og them are but not all of us. Why do some states act as if the trucks cause all the problems on the road. Every time a truck get's into an accident, people say "damned truckers need to be put on a leash, they are dangerous and need to be controlled". It's been proven already thet 80% of car/truck accidents are caused by the car driver but the media will never tell you that. They see us as a group of missfits that needs strict regualtion. Truckers are some of the safest drivers out on the road today but nobody see's that. They use the excuse that we are big and slow, that we are dangerous and we need to be controlled. People get offended when a truck get's in front of them, I'v heard people say they get eyeballed in the mirror and then cut off, while that may happen some times it's not common. Climb up in a truck and see why we do things we do. Find out what it's like to have the pedal on the floor with a heavy truck and not being able get the speed up, you say we hog the road, be patient, we are trying to move but sometimes it takes time. Have you ever seen somebody speed up when a truck is trying to pass? People do that, then all the others pass on the right boxing the truck into the left lane, now the guy directly behind the truck says we are hogging the road. We live on those roads and we have unwritten rules, some of you will never understand them and will continue to judge us in a way that makes you angry. In simple words, you drive your vehicle, I'll drive mine. When you get home and have dinner, I'll still be on the road trucking away. Like I said I love it, it's a lifestyle not a job. The more peolle understand how things work with us the better things will be. You would be sueprised how much easier the trip would go if you allowed us to flow with the traffic instead of trying to "conqure"(sp?) the truck.
Anyhow, sorry about the ranting. All I'm trying to say is sometimes we have differences of opinion. Just because we differ from somebidy elses opinion doesent make them wrong, or us right. Maybe we could benefit from others opinions instead of fighting them. Maybe if the opinions where put in a way that is not insulting it would help also. I'll try to be nicer and watch my mouth. I'll admit when I make a mistake, can y'all do the same? We are all gunowners, we need to get along. We need to share ideas and and form freindships. Have you ever heard the saying, " United we stand, divided we fall"? Well alot of us here will fall because we get bullheaded and don't want to listen to any body elses opinions and go on the defensive. Like I said I'm guilty of that too and I'll try to behave.
Thanks for reading and if ya dont' like it, too bad!LOL
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As for .223, I like to shoot 9mm, so don't ask me!
I bet me and you would be great huntin' partners. Even though i don't know english.(edit, hehehe)
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Edited by - will270win on 04/13/2002 23:49:01
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BTW I'm the guy that blinks his lights so you know when you have room to come over, dosn't slow down after I get by you in bad weather, dosn't ride on your bumper, signals for lane changes in front of you etc.
Bob
Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.
I didn't get into this debate because Texas White Tails are about as big as a Doberman. A .223 will drop them in their tracks. I remember the first dear I shot with a Ruger No.1 in 7mm Mag. Blew the poor son of a gun to peices. I love to argue, but I never mean it personally. I got into a good on with salzo, and I don't think he's forgiven me yet. Some folks would rather fight than argue. So be it.
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Salzo, I accidentaly shot a turkey with it during deer season, don't know what happened, I was watching it in the scope and the gun went off.Oopsy! I'm a die hard believer in those gg grain bal tips for deer and that load did a number in that turkey. I took a body shot and it was ruined. I don't know what load I would use for turkeys with it. I have however shot a bubch of turkeys while squirrel hunting using a .22. I carry two magazines, one with winchester hp's for squirrel and one with stingers for turkey and it works well.
Will270, sure would like to hook up with ya sometime and go after those desert mutts. We got 'yotes around here but they are sneaky and hard to find. I need to go out with somebody who knows how to hunt them so I can learn a few things. Maybe if I go back to driving coast to coast we can hook up.
k.stanonik, yes thats the one. Did you see the post he made on the thread about somebody buying an AK47? That did it for me with him, if I ever meet him I think I'll just kick him in the nuts and walk away.
Gordian, don't get me started on them frenchmen, I hear them on the cb speaking french and I go into full blown red face attack mode, cant stand them!
Tailgunner, we drivers appreciate that alot, especially in bad weather. You would be surprised how hard it is to see the end of a 53'er in the rain.
dheffley, I thought those deer was bigger than that. TNN must used special imported deer for their hunting videos. And Salzo and I got into one before but we have gotten over it and now we get along ok. If I lived where he lives I would get cranky sometime too!
4wheeler, yeah it would be boring, I just can't stand the fights over opinions. The last couple opinions I made got me flamed. Made me sit back and think a little bit and read some of my posts. I thought to my self, "man I sure was an *", decided to cool off a little bit and make it known that I shouldve been a little more mature.
Time to go see if there are any boring threads that need a little humor thrown in them!