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eastbank
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now he,s judging service members and i don,t think the air bag ever served a day,setting on his * making millions while real men were giving their time and some times their lives so he could. what a ungreatfull buzzard. mr myopic.
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Now, I don't like John McCain, but insulting any man for having been a Prisoner of War is awfully low behavior. McCain was doing his job and was shot down by the enemy. This is honorable service whether you are a foot soldier or a fighter pilot.
Trump just keeps on adding exclamation points to his loss in this race.
His Dad was an Admiral and when the NVA found out they offered to let him go early.........he turned them down and did 4 more years in the Hanoi Hilton because there were guys who had been there longer than he had.
Trump should have kept his mouth shut but he couldn't because that is the kind of guy he is. When he was criticized by McCain he should have pointed out their differences in policies, his failure as a Presidential candidate, his backing of RINO's and "progressive" stances and that would have been ok, there is enough meat there to hammer McCain on, but he had to hit below the belt and now he looks like a *.
He went down a whole lot in my book.
Statements from fellow prisoners tell a different tale.
(why has he fought release of POW/MIA records, why did he introduce a bill that gutted one releasing them?)
IMHO the man is already a proven loser, who got a free ride from daddy, and with his position on immigration placed himself in Trumps sights.
The RNC should look further than him IF they want a chance in the next election. (they haven't shown any smarts in their last two selections, so I don't look for any differences in the future)
The Donald is laughable, and another loser.
Prepare for the Hildabeast. [xx(]
I also don't care for John McCains politics. His service is a line Trump should not have crossed. As McCain has gotten older he has gotten more like John Kerry. It might just be to much time with beltway liberals.
I was trying to find those words. As much as I dislike McCain and yes, he has played that card to death, He wears it like a badge of honor, he did a great service to our country and deserves some respect as a human being and soldier. Having said that, Trump crossed a line that no man should, in my humble opinion. Don't screw with our vets, as that is the kiss of death to your political aspirations. Oakie
When the conversation get to public and military policy, he is a buffoon.
So even though once again his words were not well chosen, the gist of it is, what would make you hold John McCain in high esteem, had he not been a POW?
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What exactly did he say? Have you guys thought about it? What it said to me was, if McCain had not been captured, would he be a hero? Well, yes, but not unlike every other veteran of Viet Nam, such as my own brother. Would McCain have been so easily elected? I don't know. I voted for him for President, but I don't think he has done a great job as Senator.
So even though once again his words were not well chosen, the gist of it is, what would make you hold John McCain in high esteem, had he not been a POW?
Trump stuck his foot in his mouth as I knew he would sooner or later. Your response echoes my thoughts exactly though.
McSwine has made a career off of being a prisoner.
He voted against another 2006 amendment (S. Amdt. 3642) that provided the VA an additional $430 million in funding for outpatient care and treatment for veterans [source: U.S. Senate].
McCain voted against S. Amdt. 3007 in 2006, which would have provided an additional $1.5 billion in funding for veterans' health care in FY 2007 by closing tax loopholes [source: U.S. Senate].
In 2005, he voted against an amendment to provide an additional $500 million for veterans' mental health care for each year between 2006 and 2010 (S. Amdt. 2634) [source: U.S. Senate].
What exactly did he say? Have you guys thought about it? What it said to me was, if McCain had not been captured, would he be a hero? Well, yes, but not unlike every other veteran of Viet Nam, such as my own brother. Would McCain have been so easily elected? I don't know. I voted for him for President, but I don't think he has done a great job as Senator.
So even though once again his words were not well chosen, the gist of it is, what would make you hold John McCain in high esteem, had he not been a POW?
I agree A+
everyone should try to listen to what was said and understand it as it was meant instead of jumpin on trump's butt and you may see the truth.
No candidate can win an election by appealing only to or "firing up" their base of support. They must pull votes from undecideds, moderates and independents. Not doing this means the candidate is a loser on election day.
Before that day arrives damage can be done by pushing those same voters away from a candidate's side generally. This is what Trump is doing. He has completely lost the voters who decide elections and damaged the right wing brand in the process. While exciting the base with his celebrity and big mouth, he has burdened all right wing candidates with his antics.
Democrats are delighted with Trump's success for very good reasons.
everyone who has ever been a POW not just McCain. Read his exact
words.
I have to agree that being a POW does not make you a hero but the
nature of how you were captured & your conduct while a POW make a big difference.
quote:Originally posted by fideau
What exactly did he say? Have you guys thought about it? What it said to me was, if McCain had not been captured, would he be a hero? Well, yes, but not unlike every other veteran of Viet Nam, such as my own brother. Would McCain have been so easily elected? I don't know. I voted for him for President, but I don't think he has done a great job as Senator.
So even though once again his words were not well chosen, the gist of it is, what would make you hold John McCain in high esteem, had he not been a POW?
Trump stuck his foot in his mouth as I knew he would sooner or later. Your response echoes my thoughts exactly though.
McSwine has made a career off of being a Self Proclaimed prisoner.
quote:Originally posted by fideau
What exactly did he say? Have you guys thought about it? What it said to me was, if McCain had not been captured, would he be a hero? Well, yes, but not unlike every other veteran of Viet Nam, such as my own brother. Would McCain have been so easily elected? I don't know. I voted for him for President, but I don't think he has done a great job as Senator.
So even though once again his words were not well chosen, the gist of it is, what would make you hold John McCain in high esteem, had he not been a POW?
I agree A+
everyone should try to listen to what was said and understand it as it was meant instead of jumpin on trump's butt and you may see the truth.
You obviously listened to what he said he said rather than what he said.
He said McCain was a war hero because he was captured. He then said he prefers heros that do not get captured.
The important thing is that he either was looking for a cheap sound bite, or (and more likely) was totally ignorant as to the fact that it was McCain's behavior, not his captivity that was honorable and, as defined today, heroic.
McCain's actions as Senator have become, IMO, despicable. This does not change the basic fact that Trump made a stupid statement that was factually incorrect.
But this is not first stupid non-fact he has stated over the past few weeks.
Brad Steele
Please tell me why McCain is a War Hero? He crashed at least several aircraft and was known to be an awful pilot, a risk taker and a hot head. What would happen to a pilot these days with his record? He's just one of these guys that always seems to land on his feet. As far as his politics, he could switch to being a Democrat and nobody would know the difference with the exception of war.
Read his history as a POW.
That is the only reason he is considered a hero, and was a hero as the term is defined today.
He always landed on his feet because his father and grandfather were both admirals. He was near the bottom of his class at Annapolis, and probably wouldn't have been a pilot absent his lineage. Does not detract from his actions during those five years in Hanoi.
Brad Steele
quote:Originally posted by Dondo7
Please tell me why McCain is a War Hero? He crashed at least several aircraft and was known to be an awful pilot, a risk taker and a hot head. What would happen to a pilot these days with his record? He's just one of these guys that always seems to land on his feet. As far as his politics, he could switch to being a Democrat and nobody would know the difference with the exception of war.
Read his history as a POW.
That is the only reason he is considered a hero, and was a hero as the term is defined today.
He always landed on his feet because his father and grandfather were both admirals. He was near the bottom of his class at Annapolis, and probably wouldn't have been a pilot absent his lineage. Does not detract from his actions during those five years in Hanoi.
Trump was correct---McCain is not a hero just because he was captured.
The real heroes were/are the likes of Sgt. Alvin York and Audie Murphy. I certainly would not place McCain in this same group.
His politics and legislative efforts are independent of that record. Those areas deserve all analysis and deepest review. His voting record on Veteran issues alone should earn him scorn.
I have heard him claim he voted against many veteran benefit bills because they were unfunded budget hits, or similar reasons. Well, if that was the case I could respect his position for its Fiscal Responsibility. Problem is where were his counter-offers? Where was he on finding the funding he claimed was the reason for voting "Nay"?
It may be sufficient for many common citizens to be against a thing or for a thing without offering reasons or solutions. But not for those who claim positions of leadership. From them I expect efforts at solving problems. Failing that please get the hell out and make room for some other candidate to have a go at it.
[url][/url]http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2013/05/29/john-mccain-war-hero-or-something-less/
http://tinyurl.com/o72x5qy
This link will open a YouTube search on "Donald Trump John McCain". Plenty of videos of Trump doing his thing.
http://tinyurl.com/o72x5qy
John McCain's best act today was when he refused early out from Hanoi...which he could have had...so some one else could get out...[:o)]
as Trump has been thus far,they are scarring the crap out of someone.
I watched the video clip, and he said nothing that was not true.
McCain is a war hero like every other guy that served. The only thing that set him apart from the rest(aside from his family) was getting
captured, and being a POW. Now flying through enemy fire I'm sure
takes more bravery than most have, but lots of brave pilots have
done this without the fanfare McCain gets. Trump may not have phrased
it well, but if you want a smooth talker we'll end up with Hillary.[xx(]
Take it for what it's worth
[url][/url]http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2013/05/29/john-mccain-war-hero-or-something-less/
Done.
There were enough prisoners with him at the Hilton that I have to think a significant number would have come forward from a sense of duty and honor.
That potentially hundreds have remained silent, suggests the author's speculations are no more than that.
Brad Steele
When people are misquoted,and taken out of context as often
as Trump has been thus far,they are scarring the crap out of someone.
I watched the video clip, and he said nothing that was not true.
McCain is a war hero like every other guy that served. The only thing that set him apart from the rest(aside from his family) was getting
captured, and being a POW. Now flying through enemy fire I'm sure
takes more bravery than most have, but lots of brave pilots have
done this without the fanfare McCain gets. Trump may not have phrased
it well, but if you want a smooth talker we'll end up with Hillary.[xx(]
Trumps incompetence in campaigning is making a Hillary victory more likely.
quote:Originally posted by topdad
When people are misquoted,and taken out of context as often
as Trump has been thus far,they are scarring the crap out of someone.
I watched the video clip, and he said nothing that was not true.
McCain is a war hero like every other guy that served. The only thing that set him apart from the rest(aside from his family) was getting
captured, and being a POW. Now flying through enemy fire I'm sure
takes more bravery than most have, but lots of brave pilots have
done this without the fanfare McCain gets. Trump may not have phrased
it well, but if you want a smooth talker we'll end up with Hillary.[xx(]
Trumps incompetence in campaigning is making a Hillary victory more likely.
not likely unless you all vote fer her..............
No matter what The Donald or any of the other "GOP" candidates do or say.
He isn't damaging the republican brand.
RINOs like McCain beat him to it a long time ago.
Trump only promotes discussion about issues important to America 's future.
Discussion s that wouldn't otherwise take place.
Hildabeast will be your next CIC!
No matter what The Donald or any of the other "GOP" candidates do or say.
He isn't damaging the republican brand.
RINOs like McCain beat him to it a long time ago.
Trump only promotes discussion about issues important to America 's future.
Discussion s that wouldn't otherwise take place.
Yeppers, with computerized balloting, the fix is already in.
(we had districts with 125%-170% voting reported. It was dismissed as "simply a mistake" BUT, the votes were still counted!)
quote:I don't buy the war hero thing. Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned he sat out the war.
That was said by Senator Al Franken 15 years ago! Where is his apology????
A little fuel for the fire!
quote:I don't buy the war hero thing. Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned he sat out the war.
That was said by Senator Al Franken 15 years ago! Where is his apology????
[:)][:)]
Hildabeast will be your next CIC!
No matter what The Donald or any of the other "GOP" candidates do or say.
He isn't damaging the republican brand.
RINOs like McCain beat him to it a long time ago.
Trump only promotes discussion about issues important to America 's future.
Discussion s that wouldn't otherwise take place.
and they have vote fraud on their side, rigged voting machines, hacked voting machines, dead people voting, busloads of people paid to vote at certain places...