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best long range rifle?
bmbuzlr
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I think a .300 Winchester mag is the best all around long range cartrige. Either a Remington 700, or Savage 110.
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IT'S WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEMSELVES THAT MAKES THEM AFRAID.
Having a predictable enemy is better than having an ally you can't trust.
The best rifle for long range is the .50 Barrett. Reach out and touch 'em for 2000 meters in the right hands
For more mundane purposes the .300 win mag to me is the best choice.
Wide range of loads available as well as bullet weights. However my choice of a rifle to fire them in is the browning A-bolt.
JuJu (just my opinion, others may vary)
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Having a predictable enemy is better than having an ally you can't trust.
The 3006, since shortly after it's introduction, has been, is, and lkely will always be the BEST all-around cartridge.
IMHO
BTW I shoot a 7 rem. mag.
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Not trying to be rude, just trying to figure out your intentions. [8)]
Having a predictable enemy is better than having an ally you can't trust.
Boomer
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Having owned both a savage and a Remington 700 I would have to disagree, have you owned all of these different rifles, I have.
Savage is a nice accurate rile, especially with the new trigger and the price, the remington is a very good rifle with an easy to adjust trigger and is very accurate, however being the proud owner currently of 2 browning A-bolts, 1 stainless and 1 blue and having owned both of the rifles mentioned in your post I can without doubt say that the browning A-bolt is a better weapon. Solid lock up, smooth bolt, realtivly short throw for a long action cartridge and as accurate if not more so than either of the guns you mentioned.
I consistantly get groups under 1/2 inch at 100 yds with factory ammo and better than that with handloads (usually 1/4 to 1/8 inch), this is of course off a bench. Offhand I have taken deer out to 375 yds.
There is some truth to "you get what you pay for", oh, by the way all those rifles were in .300 winmag.
I dont mind the debate on caliber for long range shooting but you are really off base on your statement about the Browning, at least the A-bolt models which is what I have experience with.
JuJu ( A PROUD A_BOLT OWNER [^])
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I'm not sure what the need is for a long-range gun in much of the country.
I've taken over 70 deer and ~ 50 of those were with a side-lock muzzleloader, ~ 7 more with an inline and the remaining dozen were a split between a .44 carbine and the .300 win. I've only taken 2 shots over 100 yards. One freehand at 165 yards, and one prone with a bipod at ~ 250 yards. Incidentally, I've only had 1 deer run after being struck with a muzzleloader bullet, whereas many of the ones struck with my .300 ran for 30-50 yards before collapsing.
Well, take care. I think I'm done with this thread for tonight.
Something to said for big and slow[^]
As to long shots, we have a field on our lease thats 450 yds across, I love to set up on 1 side and wait for the deer to come out of the swamp on the other[:D], Havent had the cojones to drop the hammer on one completely on the other side, usually wait for them to meander in the field to feed a bit. The 375 was a little longer than what I thought and he went about 35 yds before dropping.
I usually do lung shots to not mess up to much meat ( I am afterall a meat hunter, dont care about trophys). If I hit 'em in the shoulder or just above they usually drop where they stand. That ballistic tip is a nasty litlle round.
JuJu (who hasnt had the thrill of a BP deer yet)
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I aint no recoil expert, but I am a small guy and I can shoot my .300 pert near all day and cant shoot his 30-06 more a fews times and my shoulder starts to hurt.
JuJu (I thought I shot a big round)
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For the money I like the Savage, great out of the box accuracy and with the new adjustable trigger they are quality guns in any caliber.
The A-bolt can be had for as little as 400-500 dollars if you shop around a bit and are patient. I got my stainless NIB for 500 and the blue one used with a 4x10x40 nikon scope for $400 at a gunshow.
Also, think about learning how to reload, I am a begginner at it and only reload for my .300 and my 45/70 but its fun,relaxing, a little cheaper than factory and you can get your rifle to do some amazing things with the proper load.
JuJu (any gun is better than no gun)
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Boomer, a 7mm fan
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O.K. I admit, I really don't NEED anything bigger than a 30-30 for what I hunt. I just want to have my bases covered if I do.
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Get a .270, you cant go wrong, theres no over kill in the deer, they shoot very flat, not much reciol, all around great caliber for deer.
"If it's brown, it's down"
Hard to argue with that[8D]
JuJu (who has owned many a .270 and liked them all)
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quote:Get a .270, you cant go wrong, theres no over kill in the deer, they shoot very flat, not much reciol, all around great caliber for deer.
Hard to argue with that[8D]
JuJu (who has owned many a .270 and liked them all)
See, he knows.[:D]
"If it's brown, it's down"
How's a .270 on Elk? I been thinking about trying to get an Elk tag, if I'm lucky!
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Im sure it would work fine on elk if you know how to shoot![:D] If I can kill a deer with a .222 and paboogerjr can kill one with a .22 hornet, then elk can be killed easily with a .270. Also, the day you win an elk tag in a lottery is the day pabooger gets rid of his guns.
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Using a 150 gr bullet in both.
At 500 yards the 300 drops 60.69" the 7mm drops 63.86.
The 300 is traveling at 1813, the 7mm at 1866.
The 300 hits with 1095 lbs, the 7mm with 1160.
The 300 gets there in .616 seconds, the 7mm in .624.
So the 300 does not drop quite as much but the 7mm hits harder when it gets there.
I prefer to have a bullet hitting a little harder. (the 7mm)
Of course there is a difference in which bullet you use.
Now there are some wildcat rounds that can perform quite nicely.
Now if you want to throw the 17 Rem. in on the deal.
At 500 yards with a 25 grain bullet, it drops 64.66 is traveling at 1235, and hits with 85 lbs, in .690 seconds.
It would probably bounce off an animal (at that range) but it would be good to punch paper with.
30.06 is still the most versatile cartridge out there.
And you can pick up ammo almost anywhere.
After trying the others, that is what I settled on.
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For long range it would have to be that "rail gun" they are developing . The thing don't use shells . Just bullets , and magnetics . Can't remmember range , but the cycle rate on it is over 1 million per minute . The demonstration they showed was awesome .
For deer in the open I'll stick with my model 70 300 win mag .
For groundhog hunting I like my A-bolt 22-250 .
You know what they say about opinions . [:D]
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