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Harbor Frieght

jwhardingjwharding Member Posts: 2,897 ✭✭
edited July 2013 in General Discussion
I don't see how they sell the stuff so cheap. I was there yesterday an bought a 5 pc. Set of tools for 7.99. It has 1 pair of channel lock type pliers, 1 pair of 8" side cutters, 1 pair of wire cutters, 1 pair of 8" needle nose pliers and 1 pair of 10" wire pliers. All tools come with plastic wrapped handles. I know these aren't Klien grade tools but for 8.00 that's cheap. It's got to cost something for material, labor and to ship them all the way from China. Like I said I know their not the best tools but I buy them to leave at the farm. If someone steals them I haven't lost much.
JW
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  • the middlethe middle Member Posts: 3,089
    edited November -1
    They can because its all produced in "reeducation" camps.
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,233 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    The worst thing about those junk store pliers, is the coating on the handles comes loose. The grip slips/moves around whenever you get a good bite on something. Annoy the livin' crap out of a fella.
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Son buys some stuff from HF but only in the store so he can actually look at the item. I don't buy anything from HF. There's a guy 12 miles away selling similar quality stuff but I can go back and complain when it fails and he usually hands me another POS tool in exchange. I use this quality tool to stuff tractor tool boxes for a quick fix in the field and keep the good tools in the shop or service truck. If a box full of elcheapo wrenches gets lost/stolen, it's aggravating but not nearly as financially painful.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    America pays china to build stuff priced cheap to sell to Americans till there is no competition left for china to raise prices on cheap stuff
  • JnRockwallJnRockwall Member Posts: 16,352 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    china mart, you get what you pay for. They are the capital of the disposable tools.
  • HandLoadHandLoad Member Posts: 15,998
    edited November -1
    China is a Large and Populous nation - How else do you think they get rid of their Toxic Waste?
  • minitruck83minitruck83 Member Posts: 5,369
    edited November -1
    Their best line of screwdrivers are better than Craftsman.

    Not saying much cause Craftsman quality has gone to the dogs.




    Allen
  • GONESHOOTINGGONESHOOTING Member Posts: 2,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm afraid you are correct[V][xx(][xx(]quote:Originally posted by spasmcreek
    America pays china to build stuff priced cheap to sell to Americans till there is no competition left for china to raise prices on cheap stuff
  • GONESHOOTINGGONESHOOTING Member Posts: 2,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You pay your employees a nickel a day and own the freighters that it shipped on!
  • bullshotbullshot Member Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've bought tons and tons of stuff from HF over the years, maybe I've just been lucky but I've yet to have anything fail and if it does .... so what? Their stuff is just pennies on the dollar.
    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you"
  • bullshotbullshot Member Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by us55840
    quote:Originally posted by bullshot
    I've bought tons and tons of stuff from HF over the years, maybe I've just been lucky but I've yet to have anything fail and if it does .... so what? Their stuff is just pennies on the dollar.


    And therein is the problem in America today ~ far to many people will accept poor quality in cheaply made goods as "normal."

    As such, quality products that will last a lifetime and more have become a scarce commodity with few exceptions.

    [:(]


    Like I said, I've never had a tool from HF fail, on the other the last Craftsman ratchet I bought broke the first time I used it. I know Craftsman tools are not American made anymore but at least at HF that is reflected in the price.
    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you"
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,692 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I delivered a load of cargo to a Harbor Freight store. This was just north of Atlanta, near Tucker Ga.

    I pulled up to the store at 4 am and I thought a mistake had been made. The store was in a little strip mall. I parked out front and walked around the store, there was no loading dock. I figured it was impossible to unload my truck.

    I was wrong. In a half hour the Harbor Freight employees began arriving.
    By 5 am they had set up a collapsible conveyor belt that went from the back doors to 50 feet inside the back of the store. They had a crew of 5 guys and one of them was driving a fork lift.
    The fork lift guy lifted the rear pallet of stuff down to the ground, and the crew put the merchandise onto the conveyor belt and they rolled it into the store.
    After he had unloaded the 2 pallets he could reach with the fork lift. a guy jumped up into the truck with a big strap. He tied the strap around the next pallet, and the fork lift towed it to the edge of the truck. Then he lifted it down onto the ground with the fork lift.

    These guys unloaded the entire 18 wheeler in 45 minutes.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,497 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Look at it this way:

    You can buy "Made in China" tools at Harbor Freight - or at Sears, or Ace Hardware, or Lowe's, or Home Depot, or Checker Auto, or...

    Take your pick; they're ALL "Made in China" tools.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • fyrfinderfyrfinder Member Posts: 205 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I stop by HF quite frequently .. I jump on their free offerings and pick up a cheap something or another. Mostly I get their free flashlights .. can always use the batteries in something else like a tv remote. Free flashlights are a bargin, they always seem to be good when the power goes out .. and when the batteries go bad you can scrap them for the aluminum. [:D]
  • PanzerSlayer2PanzerSlayer2 Member Posts: 1,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You have to be really picky about what you can or cannot buy from HF. I got a set of metric hex keys once and the ends stripped out pretty quick. However I haven;t had any issues with their bungee cords, ropes, tarps and such.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,497 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was in my local HF a while back and I made the humorous comment, "This must be what China smells like." And the guy I was talking to said, "I've been to China - and this is exactly what it smells like."
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • pietro75pietro75 Member Posts: 7,048
    edited November -1
    I love HF for all sorts of odds and ends Chinese Chicken tools. Like Uncle Rocky said, Take your pick of the chinese equipment.

    And for specialty tools for the shade tree mechanic, they are great.

    I bought a 1-1/8" hammer drill from HF about seven years ago as a throw away on a job and it just quite working two months ago after very heavy use.
  • 11BravoCrunchie11BravoCrunchie Member Posts: 33,423 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    My 3-ton quick-lift floor jack, and all 4 of my jack stands are from Harbor Freight, and none of them have ever failed to do what they were made to do.

    I once had my entire car (approximately 5000 lbs) up on those jack stands for 2 days while laying under the dead center of the car and working on the transmission. Was I a little nervous? Yes, but no more nervous than I am any time I have to crawl under a car that's not supporting 100% of its own weight.
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Their hand tools are junk, that is why they are so cheap. Their welders and other tools are great.
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Harbor Freight serves a need, especially on one time use tools.Gear pullers,grinders etc..I love the store,but I also know the quality is suspect.With that in mind ,do diligence when you buy a tool! The store serves a need,and I have never been disappointed....you pay for what you get...[;)]
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,233 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Oakie
    Their welders and other tools are great.
    Not the ones I been around. Junk.
  • 11BravoCrunchie11BravoCrunchie Member Posts: 33,423 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by austin20
    quote:Originally posted by Zulu7
    My 3-ton quick-lift floor jack, and all 4 of my jack stands are from Harbor Freight, and none of them have ever failed to do what they were made to do.

    I once had my entire car (approximately 5000 lbs) up on those jack stands for 2 days while laying under the dead center of the car and working on the transmission. Was I a little nervous? Yes, but no more nervous than I am any time I have to crawl under a car that's not supporting 100% of its own weight.
    Approxmately 5,000 pounds. What kinda car did you have a '76 Cadillac El Dorado?


    2001 Mercury Grand Marquis. Door lable says GVWR 5237 lbs.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Zulu7
    My 3-ton quick-lift floor jack, and all 4 of my jack stands are from Harbor Freight, and none of them have ever failed to do what they were made to do.

    I once had my entire car (approximately 5000 lbs) up on those jack stands for 2 days while laying under the dead center of the car and working on the transmission. Was I a little nervous? Yes, but no more nervous than I am any time I have to crawl under a car that's not supporting 100% of its own weight.


    They lift and hold my truck. Have the aluminum quick lift and my stands are from HF. I am going to modify mine but that is for use outside in the gravel Going to put a metal solid base so they do not sink into the ground, was using plywood but if it happens to rain they will cut right thru plywood. Have 4 others I use in the Garage, the metal bases may slide on concrete.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,529 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I went to blocks after trying to use one of their faulty jacks.[:D]
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We in the USA are bound to China and a big part of Asia just like Siamese (No pun intended) twins.
    Don't expect anything to change anytime soon. Guess which countries we are in debt to.
    Goverment at all levels is the biggest single cause of the manufacturing exodus in the USA not Asia.
  • pietro75pietro75 Member Posts: 7,048
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    I went to blocks after trying to use one of their faulty jacks.[:D]


    [:D][:D]
  • oldrideroldrider Member Posts: 4,934 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I hate that cheap Chinese crap! Unfortunately you don't have to be at HF to find it.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,497 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    FCD, I am inordinately proud of the first line of my Vietnam novel, "Baggy Zero Four." It describes very succintly my first few seconds of arrival at the Tan Son Nhut airport: "It was as if the world had farted in his face."

    Every Nam vet who has read my books (and there are a lot of them) has told me that that sentence captured it dead nuts on.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • evileye fleagalevileye fleagal Member Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    tape a dollar to each, then throw them away. when somebody finds them they will have a dollars worth.
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I paid nearly fourty dollars for a venier caliper in 1961.
    Harbor Freight has a digital caliper in today's ad for $9.99 & they can be used for both inches & metric.
    Of course I still have mine & they still work fine so I suppose we will have to wait fifty years to see how many of theirs are still working.
  • 11BravoCrunchie11BravoCrunchie Member Posts: 33,423 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by austin20
    quote:Originally posted by Zulu7
    quote:Originally posted by austin20
    quote:Originally posted by Zulu7
    My 3-ton quick-lift floor jack, and all 4 of my jack stands are from Harbor Freight, and none of them have ever failed to do what they were made to do.

    I once had my entire car (approximately 5000 lbs) up on those jack stands for 2 days while laying under the dead center of the car and working on the transmission. Was I a little nervous? Yes, but no more nervous than I am any time I have to crawl under a car that's not supporting 100% of its own weight.
    Approxmately 5,000 pounds. What kinda car did you have a '76 Cadillac El Dorado?


    2001 Mercury Grand Marquis. Door lable says GVWR 5237 lbs.
    GVWR is not the weight of the car. It is the gross vehicle weight rating.



    At some point, it doesn't matter if it's 4200 or 5200 lbs when a car falls on you. Either way, it's not going to be pretty.
  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,637 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The $9.99 calipers read to two decimal points. Better than a tape measure. I have a few of their products and if they are used for what I expect from a cheap China made item - things are fine.
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
  • EhlerDaveEhlerDave Member Posts: 5,158 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk
    Just wait until you blow up one of your knuckles on a lug stud after you bust one of their wrenches loosening a brake caliper...then let's hear your opinion.

    ...don't ask me how I know.



    I have a nasty scar from HF pliers, my grip was more than they could take and upon breaking got a nasty cut from the sharp edge. So I have an idea, how you may know. [:)]
    Just smile and say nothing, let them guess how much you know.
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    FCD, I am inordinately proud of the first line of my Vietnam novel, "Baggy Zero Four." It describes very succintly my first few seconds of arrival at the Tan Son Nhut airport: "It was as if the world had farted in his face."

    Every Nam vet who has read my books (and there are a lot of them) has told me that that sentence captured it dead nuts on.
    I never read your book,but the analogy is quiet correct of Ton Son Nhut......1967[:o)]
  • CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,298 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There latex gloves are great.

    Went there with a friend of mine who is adding on to his shop. He spent 2k there. HF tool boxes are great. That was half the purchase.

    HF has an inline fuse amp tester for car fuses and mini's. I highly recommend it and have never seen it elsewhere.
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cbxjeff
    The $9.99 calipers read to two decimal points. Better than a tape measure. I have a few of their products and if they are used for what I expect from a cheap China made item - things are fine.


    The ad claims "accurate to +/-0.001" I'm not sure my old eyeballs can do that well with the venier calipers. I wondered if it should be singular or plural but I guess it's like a pair of sissors.
  • jwhardingjwharding Member Posts: 2,897 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    I went to blocks after trying to use one of their faulty jacks.[:D]

    Which way did you stack them?

    I remember a thread about that I think.[:D]
    JW
  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Unless I was broke down and needed a tool I would not buy that cheap garbage. The lowest grade hand tools I own are Craftsman.
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
    I delivered a load of cargo to a Harbor Freight store. This was just north of Atlanta, near Tucker Ga.

    I pulled up to the store at 4 am and I thought a mistake had been made. The store was in a little strip mall. I parked out front and walked around the store, there was no loading dock. I figured it was impossible to unload my truck.

    I was wrong. In a half hour the Harbor Freight employees began arriving.
    By 5 am they had set up a collapsible conveyor belt that went from the back doors to 50 feet inside the back of the store. They had a crew of 5 guys and one of them was driving a fork lift.
    The fork lift guy lifted the rear pallet of stuff down to the ground, and the crew put the merchandise onto the conveyor belt and they rolled it into the store.
    After he had unloaded the 2 pallets he could reach with the fork lift. a guy jumped up into the truck with a big strap. He tied the strap around the next pallet, and the fork lift towed it to the edge of the truck. Then he lifted it down onto the ground with the fork lift.

    These guys unloaded the entire 18 wheeler in 45 minutes.


    The one near my house is the same way in a strip mall. I have lots of stuff from there. I had one Air compressor go south a few years ago and they replaced it right away. Other than that, Their good screwdrivers are better than Craftsman these days. I would not buy the cheap (orange) wood clamps again. The plastic failed after a few jobs, but they were 99 cents....
  • bama55bama55 Member Posts: 6,389 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I get my shop gloves and some tools there. Wait until on sale and use the 20% off coupon.
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