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The Calexit movement gains traction
Mr. Perfect
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I say: don't let the door hit ya.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/27/officials-announce-proposal-that-would-establish-california-as-separate-nation.html
Officials announce proposal that would establish California as separate nation
Published January 27, 2017 FoxNews.com
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Will California secede from US following Trump's election?
A proposal for California to secede from the United States was submitted to the Secretary of State's Office Thursday.
The proposed "Calexit" initiative - its name borrowed from the UK's "Brexit" departure from the EU - would ask voters to repeal part of the state constitution that declares California an inseparable part of the U.S.
A recent poll found that one in three California residents would support a possible secession from the U.S. due to their opposition to President Trump. No mention has been made of the president in the proposal.
If the proposal qualifies for the ballot and is approved by voters, it could be a step to a future vote on whether the state would break away from the rest of the nation.
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Secretary of State Alex Padilla said the group behind the proposal, Yes California Independence Campaign, was cleared to begin attempting to collect nearly 600,000 voter signatures needed to place the plan on the ballot.
"In our view, the United States of America represents so many things that conflict with Californian values, and our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment, and to the detriment of our children," the Yes campaign's website says.
Similar attempts to establish California as a nation, or break it into multiple states, have failed.
The proposed constitutional amendment, titled California Nationhood, would also ask voters to repeal language that states the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law. If approved, it calls for scheduling a vote in 2019 to ask voters, "Should California become a free, sovereign and independent country?"
"America already hates California, and America votes on emotions," Marcus Evans, vice president of Yes California told the Los Angeles Times. "I think we'd have the votes today if we held it."
The campaign must submit the valid voter signatures by July 25 to qualify for the ballot.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/27/officials-announce-proposal-that-would-establish-california-as-separate-nation.html
Officials announce proposal that would establish California as separate nation
Published January 27, 2017 FoxNews.com
Facebook Twitter livefyre Email Print
Now Playing
Will California secede from US following Trump's election?
A proposal for California to secede from the United States was submitted to the Secretary of State's Office Thursday.
The proposed "Calexit" initiative - its name borrowed from the UK's "Brexit" departure from the EU - would ask voters to repeal part of the state constitution that declares California an inseparable part of the U.S.
A recent poll found that one in three California residents would support a possible secession from the U.S. due to their opposition to President Trump. No mention has been made of the president in the proposal.
If the proposal qualifies for the ballot and is approved by voters, it could be a step to a future vote on whether the state would break away from the rest of the nation.
Poll reveals 1 in 3 Californians support 'Calexit'
UK official won't make promises on timing of Brexit plan
Secretary of State Alex Padilla said the group behind the proposal, Yes California Independence Campaign, was cleared to begin attempting to collect nearly 600,000 voter signatures needed to place the plan on the ballot.
"In our view, the United States of America represents so many things that conflict with Californian values, and our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment, and to the detriment of our children," the Yes campaign's website says.
Similar attempts to establish California as a nation, or break it into multiple states, have failed.
The proposed constitutional amendment, titled California Nationhood, would also ask voters to repeal language that states the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law. If approved, it calls for scheduling a vote in 2019 to ask voters, "Should California become a free, sovereign and independent country?"
"America already hates California, and America votes on emotions," Marcus Evans, vice president of Yes California told the Los Angeles Times. "I think we'd have the votes today if we held it."
The campaign must submit the valid voter signatures by July 25 to qualify for the ballot.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
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They would die of thirst in 3 years. I lived in CA from 67-73 and I must say it was the best place I have ever lived. Its amazing how things change so fast.
Yep. But I was there from 56 to 94. My old Home town was just like Mayberry. Now you need to be armed to walk the streets.
quote:Originally posted by Sam06
They would die of thirst in 3 years. I lived in CA from 67-73 and I must say it was the best place I have ever lived. Its amazing how things change so fast.
Yep. But I was there from 56 to 94. My old Home town was just like Mayberry. Now you need to be armed to walk the streets.
Because the Icelandic Separatists that moved in?
six month grace period move out or loose all rights as USA citizen and citizenship along with all federal pensions and SS included .
no federal funding and dam up all waterways going into the state . then libs have a great life
or split the state part into its own call it lib happy for now country
and part stay in the US
quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
quote:Originally posted by Sam06
They would die of thirst in 3 years. I lived in CA from 67-73 and I must say it was the best place I have ever lived. Its amazing how things change so fast.
Yep. But I was there from 56 to 94. My old Home town was just like Mayberry. Now you need to be armed to walk the streets.
Because the Icelandic Separatists that moved in?
[:D][:D]
Who pays for and builds the wall?
With any luck San Andreas.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
quote:Originally posted by Sam06
They would die of thirst in 3 years. I lived in CA from 67-73 and I must say it was the best place I have ever lived. Its amazing how things change so fast.
Yep. But I was there from 56 to 94. My old Home town was just like Mayberry. Now you need to be armed to walk the streets.
Because the Icelandic Separatists that moved in?
You know about them too? [;)]
Calif with L.a. and San Fran. Oregon with Eugene and Portland.
I figure if they did they would remove all the fences on the Mexican border & within a few years California would become another state of Mexico.
quote:Originally posted by mag00
Who pays for and builds the wall?
With any luck San Andreas.
Any way to help? Would global warming melt enough ice to raise the sea enough to put more pressure on the fault line? Is there one spot, like the hole in the dike of fables, that we can drive a wedge to make it happen?
Hmmmm, now that I think of it, if the sea rises enough, it could take out both liberal coasts.
+1 on global warming [:D]
Then,, bye/bye.
Stupid libs don't realize that this past election was a fluke cause because smug Hilary supporters were too lazy to go to the polls when they thought they had it in the bag......or if they did go they wanted to send a message and voted for Stein.
Cut off their supply of water and Moonbeam would be drinking salt water, better yet Al Snore I believe lives there, he can make them a water machine.
I wonder if any of those involved in the movement realize they get a significant portion of their electric power and fresh water from outside the state? I realize California has some oil reserves and decent wells, but just how do the enviro whackos behind this movement feel about using it?
Folks that are behind this have no idea of self sufficiency no idea of survival, and no idea just generally.
I can't even fathom a bigger failure than an "Independent" California. It would be acquired by Mexico faster than they can blink... assuming Mexico still wants it back.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by jimdeere
quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
quote:Originally posted by Sam06
They would die of thirst in 3 years. I lived in CA from 67-73 and I must say it was the best place I have ever lived. Its amazing how things change so fast.
Yep. But I was there from 56 to 94. My old Home town was just like Mayberry. Now you need to be armed to walk the streets.
Because the Icelandic Separatists that moved in?
You know about them too? [;)]
I've never heard of them......Are they worse than corn monkeys??
quote:Originally posted by Grasshopper
Cut off their supply of water and Moonbeam would be drinking salt water, better yet Al Snore I believe lives there, he can make them a water machine.
I wonder if any of those involved in the movement realize they get a significant portion of their electric power and fresh water from outside the state? I realize California has some oil reserves and decent wells, but just how do the enviro whackos behind this movement feel about using it?
Folks that are behind this have no idea of self sufficiency no idea of survival, and no idea just generally.
I can't even fathom a bigger failure than an "Independent" California. It would be acquired by Mexico faster than they can blink... assuming Mexico still wants it back.
Reality will slap them right between their blue eyes, chartreuse hair, I love Socialism sign and lip piercings with a sledge hammer. I know California is a humongous powerhouse economically. That powerhouse runs fine until the pigeons of CalPERS and the welfare state comes home to roost.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0128-ring-calpers-pension-reform-20160128-story.html
Only real problem is the cost of Produce in the stores would go sky High.
That could be remedied though, they pay for the water with produce or make AZ. a lake.[:I]
But when WE tried that here, the Yankees came down, stole ever thing that was not nailed down, burned what WAS nailed down, and shot the hell out of the place.
[:p]
"In our view, the United States of America represents so many things that conflict with Californian values, and our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment, and to the detriment of our children," the Yes campaign's website says.
So they recognize that they don't hold traditional American values. And that their values conflict with American values.
It would give Mexico, their allies and the cartails two fronts, one containing 850 miles of coastline with a straight shot to Columbia.
You would not have to worry about getting produce or much of anything else from from them. The state would be laid to waste like a third world country by the time the power struggle for control
was over.
You know all those nazi fruit check points???? Well lets turn them into boarder control entry points, with a fee. Every time a citizen of the liberal country want to come here, no problem. You will have to go through immigration though, and have no rights, like any other foreign visitor. We shall treat them just like we treat our neighbors to the south. Oh, and we shall establish some new laws, starting with a 5 day only visitation permit. 100 dollars. Highway usage fee of 50 dollars a day, for upkeep on major highways and such. Strict no gun policy for visitors, no exception. Feel free to add to these laws and restrictions at will.........Oakie
'Xcuse me - can I use my 1918 BAR to get an exception to all that crap? [;)]
The only parts of CA that want to leave are SF, LA and sadly SD has fallen too, maybe a few other odds & ends but not much. Let them secede and create their own liberal bantustans.
Who pays for and builds the wall?
We will just write arrows on it and point all the illegals to the new Calicountry ready to welcome them with open arms
So let it be written, so let it be done. [:D]
serf
Hope they do, we could damn up all the rivers that they use for drinking water and watch them all day. California gets 90% of its water from rivers flowing into it like the green river, without that water they would all die
rem, I think you need to fact check. The Imperial Valley might, but it's a flyspeck in comparison to the Central Valley. Try a google search on Shasta Lake, California Aquaduct, Sacramento river, American River, San Joaquin River, etc.
There will be a Jefferson State before there's a California succession, and I don't see either happening in the near future.
quote:Poll reveals 1 in 3 Californians support 'Calexit'
Yeah right, and the polls said hillery would win by a landslide too.[;)]
Who pays for and builds the wall?
I wanna donate to THAT cause!
You know all those nazi fruit check points???? Well lets turn them into boarder control entry points, with a fee. Every time a citizen of the liberal country want to come here, no problem. You will have to go through immigration though, and have no rights, like any other foreign visitor. We shall treat them just like we treat our neighbors to the south. Oh, and we shall establish some new laws, starting with a 5 day only visitation permit. 100 dollars. Highway usage fee of 50 dollars a day, for upkeep on major highways and such. Strict no gun policy for visitors, no exception. Feel free to add to these laws and restrictions at will.........Oakie
they will be horrified when we build a wall to keep out illegal immigrants from California.