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Had to Fire someone yesterday

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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,484 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No way will he be sent to prison. I work with guys all the time with multiple felony convictions that have never seen the inside of a prison.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I doubt he'll ever be an inmate in jail or prison, but up here when a law enforcement officer goes to jail or prison he automatically qualifies for protective custody.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • BeeramidBeeramid Member Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
    I doubt he'll ever be an inmate in jail or prison, but up here when a law enforcement officer goes to jail or prison he automatically qualifies for protective custody.


    Thats pretty much the standard practice. Last time we had a former employee come visit, he was locked in medical hold.
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Lightning
    It's a sad day when tobacco is considered contraband.
    It's not taken so seriously just because tobacco use causes health issues. It's because this is a form of legal tender and you have to do everything possible to prevent any sort of underground economy from developing.

    All sorts of things can be obtained inside a jail if you control a highly valued and hard to get item.
  • givettegivette Member Posts: 10,886
    edited November -1
    Txlaw..givette here. It's been a few days. Any developments?

    And I was wondering, at his age, has he fulfilled his retirement quota? (Maybe they'll give him probation without losing retirement). Anyway, please keep us posted on the developments. Thanks, Joe
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    Today it's "JUST" a can of Copenhagen.Next week it's a Copenhagen can full of heroin.
    I'm with you lawdog. U done right!
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    Making jails and prisons non-smoking and tobacco-free was a mistake, in my opinion. Seems to me that most prisoners use tobacco in one form or another, in a much higher proportion than the population in general. If you set aside a particular area and a particular time of day for prisoners to do as they please, including to smoke or dip, then you have a revokable privilege, a disciplinary handle if you will.

    Besides giving up a good disciplinary tool, you also run the cost of the product way up on an underground market. Guards who would never consider smuggling drugs or weapons into jail are now bringing in cigarettes. Ask any TDC inmate about the availability of tobacco products since TDC became "non-smoking."
  • reloader44magreloader44mag Member Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    quote:Originally posted by Lightning
    It's a sad day when tobacco is considered contraband.
    It's not taken so seriously just because tobacco use causes health issues. It's because this is a form of legal tender and you have to do everything possible to prevent any sort of underground economy from developing.
    All sorts of things can be obtained inside a jail if you control a highly valued and hard to get item.
    How do you control the "skin trade"...chastity belts[;)]
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    nunn, I agree that making tobacco contraband was a mistake, but I think smuggling it in for inmates is a bigger mistake.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    You can get ANYTHING you want in prison, even Domino's pizza delivered. You can get sex, drugs, DVDs, liquor, tobacco, weapons, anything you want. All it takes is money.

    It does make a lot of sense, doesn't it? Pay your guards $25K a year, make them work in a highly stressful, dangerous, dirty, degrading environment, and then get all surprised and offended when they make $100 profit on a carton of smokes.

    Wanta guess the percentage of prison/jail guards who stay on the job long enough to draw retirement? It's probably less than in the fast food industry.

    I don't like to say "never," but believe this: I will never work as a detention officer in detention center, jail or prison.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yeah, the working conditions suck, and the pay is even worse. I worked at a prison for a while.

    I still get offended when somebody sworn to enforce the law breaks the law though.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
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