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quote:Originally posted by SG
I missed nothing James. What you don't understand is that if Bundy owes any money to the Feds then they should have filed a lien,wether it be mechanical or property just like you and I have to do.You don't go storming in with heavily armed thugs,pushing people around threatning lives and destroying personal property.His case should also have been tried through a State Court.quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
SG, it appears you missed some of the basics of learning to be a man in a civilized society. Basics you should have started to pick up around age two.
When you lease or rent anything you have both a moral and a LEGAL obligation to pay the rent. When you take the benefit of the lease and refuse to pay the rent, you have demonstrated that your word is no damned good. When your word is no damned good, you are no damned good.
Any time any person breaches any contract or commits any crime where I'm not directly involved, it doesn't do me any direct or immediate harm, buy that doesn't mean it does me no harm. When people start ignoring contracts, civil law, criminal law and court orders, and their ignoring them is ignored, it has the effect of destroying civilization. That does me harm.
However, if you agree with Bundy that the United States doesn't exist and every man is a law unto himself, in other words a sovereign citizen, disregard the above.
Here we go again....this is getting old.
It was not a state case.....state had nothing to do with it...no state law involved, lease was not let by the state....because the state DOESNT OWN THE LAND.
Dont like that? Too bad.....thats how it is. Still dont like it?...use the process given to us by the founders (and one of those was a major one that bought a whole lot of land while in the white house......and a large part of that land is STILL federally owned.....you may have heard of him.....he was some guy named Jefferson)and elect representatives and Senators...or even a POTUS that will sell or give all that land to the states....
till then......live with it....in PEACE.
Now why a lean is not on Budys ranch I can answer. There SHOULD be....he should also be in jail.....
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
We are a nation of laws and courts.
And when they start applying the laws to everyone equally then I'll start believing that BS! We've got several million people here in this country illegally thumbing their noses at our government and nothing is being done about it but yet the government has the time and money to harass one old farmer just because they can. If he were an illegal the government would be making all kinds of excuses why he should be able to stay on the land.
quote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
We are a nation of laws and courts.
And when they start applying the laws to everyone equally then I'll start believing that BS! We've got several million people here in this country illegally thumbing their noses at our government and nothing is being done about it but yet the government has the time and money to harass one old farmer just because they can. If he were an illegal the government would be making all kinds of excuses why he should be able to stay on the land.
While you are correct in the fact that the government should be kicking out illegals.....it has NOTHING....NOTHING at all to due with Bundy.....which happens to be what we are talking about on this thread.
Which also leads me to a thought.......Bundy has admitted to working with illegals. He said they are good, hard working people....wonder just how many have, and still do, work for HIM?
quote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag
Then you should really be outraged at what Obama has been doing to the Constitution with his "pen" in the Oval Office.
What Obama has done and is doing is so destructive to this country the two can't be compared. Obama is worse than Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D. Roosevelt, William Jefferson (Moscow Bill) Clinton and Jimmy (peanut) Carter put together, but Obama kept his word, he has fundamentally transformed this once great nation.
Now, what does that have to do with a man who won't pay his rent, claims property he doesn't own and ignores court orders?
Anytime a citizen cries foul against the left, the immediate tactic is character assassination.
Nothing new here. Anyone who publicly stands up to government is immediately branded as a right-wing, racist, samephobic extremist of a white supremacist former Nazi KKK member.
quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
Case & point below.
You are here
so I guess we are yoked in some sort of a way.
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by captnobody
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
quote:Originally posted by the middle
Racist or not....he shot himself in the foot. Repeating it twice more was proving his stupidity.
This horse is dead...find a better poster boy.
You maybe? How about you Mr. Middle, would you stand up against tyranny? Ole Woodshed did! BTW the South ain't the whippin boy on this topic!...[:D][:D] Thanks Roger for standing up and being counted!
I would be more than willing to lay it all on the line if REAL tyranny was in play. That is not the case for this moron. He is wrong in every way. Freeloader just as bad has any welfare scum....only worse because he draws armed nutjobs like a fly draws to chit...
If he was in the right...in any way....Id get behind him...but he is not. He stiffed us on the rent...lied about his family being on the land in the 1880s....they didnt get to Nevada till 1946....and he cant keep his stupid mouth shut about matters that go without saying
Damn guys......pick a better rally point.
I sure wouldn't want you covering my back I'll take what you call nut jobs anyday of the week over you
So, you would rather have a COWARD like this moron watching your back?
Tell me, how is his attitude any different from the rag heads when they strap bombs onto kids and make them suicide bombers?
ANSWER....its NOT!!!
Sure, go ahead, team up with idiots like this.......
If you were being attacked by the Feds for no reason, as in actual tyranny going down, and not some paranoid delusional fantasy, I would have your back.
I would be me, and a few friends, and we would not be bringing women and children along for human shields.
Bundy does not qualify for that kind of support from me.....because he brought on all his problems onto himself.
Its a very sad state that the militias all decided that THIS was the moment, HE was the cause and calling to run across the country to defend liberty, because they HAVE NOT advanced the cause of conservative ideals, or helped the cause of gun owners. They have done just the opposite. People see idiots like this Sheriff Mack spouting off about "rogue" federal agents and using human shields. They see photos on men dressed in black laying behind a jersey barrier pointing guns at cops........it doesnt help the cause of the right.....all it does is knock more people from the middle, the "silent majority", into the gun grabber/anti militia category.
The fact that the government backed off from shooting those human shields speaks volumes to those people......now, its not the government they see on the news running around the desert with guns......its the militia.....it makes them the "rogues"!
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by calrugerfan
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
He is still a deadbeat who doesn't pay the fees that he owes for grazing.
How was he supposed to pay grazing fees when they revoked his permit? You could say that he owes fines or penalties but not fees. That is like saying that you owe registration on your car even though they won't renew it.
If he would have removed his cows....like the court told him too, then he wouldnt owe them.....but he didnt. Then he doubled down and ran his cows further into NPS ground......
You still didn't answer the question. They revoked his permit so why would he pay for a permit they wouldn't give him? Again, you can say that he owes a fine or a penalty but not a fee. As to paying a fine or a penalty, I wouldn't pay it as a way to protest.
Using women and children as shields against the feds!! Where the hell do you come up with this complete BS!?Lay it all on the line.. Suuure you would...I sure as hell wouldn't want you having my back either!quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
Case & point below.
You are here
so I guess we are yoked in some sort of a way.
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by captnobody
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
quote:Originally posted by the middle
Racist or not....he shot himself in the foot. Repeating it twice more was proving his stupidity.
This horse is dead...find a better poster boy.
You maybe? How about you Mr. Middle, would you stand up against tyranny? Ole Woodshed did! BTW the South ain't the whippin boy on this topic!...[:D][:D] Thanks Roger for standing up and being counted!
I would be more than willing to lay it all on the line if REAL tyranny was in play. That is not the case for this moron. He is wrong in every way. Freeloader just as bad has any welfare scum....only worse because he draws armed nutjobs like a fly draws to chit...
If he was in the right...in any way....Id get behind him...but he is not. He stiffed us on the rent...lied about his family being on the land in the 1880s....they didnt get to Nevada till 1946....and he cant keep his stupid mouth shut about matters that go without saying
Damn guys......pick a better rally point.
I sure wouldn't want you covering my back I'll take what you call nut jobs anyday of the week over you
So, you would rather have a COWARD like this moron watching your back?
Tell me, how is his attitude any different from the rag heads when they strap bombs onto kids and make them suicide bombers?
ANSWER....its NOT!!!
Sure, go ahead, team up with idiots like this.......
If you were being attacked by the Feds for no reason, as in actual tyranny going down, and not some paranoid delusional fantasy, I would have your back.
I would be me, and a few friends, and we would not be bringing women and children along for human shields.
Bundy does not qualify for that kind of support from me.....because he brought on all his problems onto himself.
Its a very sad state that the militias all decided that THIS was the moment, HE was the cause and calling to run across the country to defend liberty, because they HAVE NOT advanced the cause of conservative ideals, or helped the cause of gun owners. They have done just the opposite. People see idiots like this Sheriff Mack spouting off about "rogue" federal agents and using human shields. They see photos on men dressed in black laying behind a jersey barrier pointing guns at cops........it doesnt help the cause of the right.....all it does is knock more people from the middle, the "silent majority", into the gun grabber/anti militia category.
The fact that the government backed off from shooting those human shields speaks volumes to those people......now, its not the government they see on the news running around the desert with guns......its the militia.....it makes them the "rogues"!
Yep,and when said renter fails to pay you file a judgement against them for money owed. Then you garnish wages or or put leins against property and assets. You don't storm the renter with Federal agents,threatning lives,stealing and destroying property. quote:Originally posted by He Dog
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
He is still a deadbeat who doesn't pay the fees that he owes for grazing.
X-Ring, and when a renter does not pay the rent you evict him. No hero, he is a deabeat.
quote:Originally posted by SG
Yep,and when said renter fails to pay you file a judgement against them for money owed. Then you garnish wages or or put leins against property and assets. You don't storm the renter with Federal agents,threatning lives,stealing and destroying property. quote:Originally posted by He Dog
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
He is still a deadbeat who doesn't pay the fees that he owes for grazing.
X-Ring, and when a renter does not pay the rent you evict him. No hero, he is a deabeat.
quote:Yep,and when said renter fails to pay you file a judgement against them for money owed. Then you garnish wages or or put leins against property and assets. You don't storm the renter with Federal agents,threatning lives,stealing and destroying property
All of this has been done, Bundy ignores the Court orders bcause he believes he is above them, whats so hard to understand that for 20years this has been going to court and EVERY time, Bundy lost. Now I will agree the Government was too heavy handed with the Free speach zones and Federal Agents but you also have to understand since all of this started 20 years ago the BLM office has been pipebombed twice and Bundy himself has publicly made many comments about owning firearms and going into a Rangewar with the Government. I can understand the Government wishing to protect their people on the Ground,, they just went overboard with it with the posted snipers. IMHO they should wait until the next time Bundy goes to town, pick him up on contemp of court charges and keep him in jail until his Family removes the cattle. Problem solved with no danger of bystanders getting caught in the crossfire
One has to understand the culture of the region Bundy claims "rights" to. Senator Reid is of the same culture, their word is law simply because they say so. Does Bundy think owning people is best for them? You bet he does, it's how he regards his wife and any female who's unfortunate enough to be born to him. I find him repugnant and wrong.
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
Case & point below.
You are here
so I guess we are yoked in some sort of a way.
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by captnobody
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
quote:Originally posted by the middle
Racist or not....he shot himself in the foot. Repeating it twice more was proving his stupidity.
This horse is dead...find a better poster boy.
You maybe? How about you Mr. Middle, would you stand up against tyranny? Ole Woodshed did! BTW the South ain't the whippin boy on this topic!...[:D][:D] Thanks Roger for standing up and being counted!
I would be more than willing to lay it all on the line if REAL tyranny was in play. That is not the case for this moron. He is wrong in every way. Freeloader just as bad has any welfare scum....only worse because he draws armed nutjobs like a fly draws to chit...
If he was in the right...in any way....Id get behind him...but he is not. He stiffed us on the rent...lied about his family being on the land in the 1880s....they didnt get to Nevada till 1946....and he cant keep his stupid mouth shut about matters that go without saying
Damn guys......pick a better rally point.
I sure wouldn't want you covering my back I'll take what you call nut jobs anyday of the week over you
So, you would rather have a COWARD like this moron watching your back?
Tell me, how is his attitude any different from the rag heads when they strap bombs onto kids and make them suicide bombers?
ANSWER....its NOT!!!
Sure, go ahead, team up with idiots like this.......
If you were being attacked by the Feds for no reason, as in actual tyranny going down, and not some paranoid delusional fantasy, I would have your back.
I would be me, and a few friends, and we would not be bringing women and children along for human shields.
Bundy does not qualify for that kind of support from me.....because he brought on all his problems onto himself.
Its a very sad state that the militias all decided that THIS was the moment, HE was the cause and calling to run across the country to defend liberty, because they HAVE NOT advanced the cause of conservative ideals, or helped the cause of gun owners. They have done just the opposite. People see idiots like this Sheriff Mack spouting off about "rogue" federal agents and using human shields. They see photos on men dressed in black laying behind a jersey barrier pointing guns at cops........it doesnt help the cause of the right.....all it does is knock more people from the middle, the "silent majority", into the gun grabber/anti militia category.
The fact that the government backed off from shooting those human shields speaks volumes to those people......now, its not the government they see on the news running around the desert with guns......its the militia.....it makes them the "rogues"!
Some how I knew you would take that stance.....after all they are "Union" troops....literally........
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
Case & point below.
You are here
so I guess we are yoked in some sort of a way.
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by captnobody
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
quote:Originally posted by the middle
Racist or not....he shot himself in the foot. Repeating it twice more was proving his stupidity.
This horse is dead...find a better poster boy.
You maybe? How about you Mr. Middle, would you stand up against tyranny? Ole Woodshed did! BTW the South ain't the whippin boy on this topic!...[:D][:D] Thanks Roger for standing up and being counted!
I would be more than willing to lay it all on the line if REAL tyranny was in play. That is not the case for this moron. He is wrong in every way. Freeloader just as bad has any welfare scum....only worse because he draws armed nutjobs like a fly draws to chit...
If he was in the right...in any way....Id get behind him...but he is not. He stiffed us on the rent...lied about his family being on the land in the 1880s....they didnt get to Nevada till 1946....and he cant keep his stupid mouth shut about matters that go without saying
Damn guys......pick a better rally point.
I sure wouldn't want you covering my back I'll take what you call nut jobs anyday of the week over you
So, you would rather have a COWARD like this moron watching your back?
Tell me, how is his attitude any different from the rag heads when they strap bombs onto kids and make them suicide bombers?
ANSWER....its NOT!!!
Sure, go ahead, team up with idiots like this.......
If you were being attacked by the Feds for no reason, as in actual tyranny going down, and not some paranoid delusional fantasy, I would have your back.
I would be me, and a few friends, and we would not be bringing women and children along for human shields.
Bundy does not qualify for that kind of support from me.....because he brought on all his problems onto himself.
Its a very sad state that the militias all decided that THIS was the moment, HE was the cause and calling to run across the country to defend liberty, because they HAVE NOT advanced the cause of conservative ideals, or helped the cause of gun owners. They have done just the opposite. People see idiots like this Sheriff Mack spouting off about "rogue" federal agents and using human shields. They see photos on men dressed in black laying behind a jersey barrier pointing guns at cops........it doesnt help the cause of the right.....all it does is knock more people from the middle, the "silent majority", into the gun grabber/anti militia category.
The fact that the government backed off from shooting those human shields speaks volumes to those people......now, its not the government they see on the news running around the desert with guns......its the militia.....it makes them the "rogues"!
Some how I knew you would take that stance.....after all they are "Union" troops....literally........
You need to give it up Pwillie. Its old and stale, and Im not going to take the bait......get new material already.
Comments
I missed nothing James. What you don't understand is that if Bundy owes any money to the Feds then they should have filed a lien,wether it be mechanical or property just like you and I have to do.You don't go storming in with heavily armed thugs,pushing people around threatning lives and destroying personal property.His case should also have been tried through a State Court.quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
SG, it appears you missed some of the basics of learning to be a man in a civilized society. Basics you should have started to pick up around age two.
When you lease or rent anything you have both a moral and a LEGAL obligation to pay the rent. When you take the benefit of the lease and refuse to pay the rent, you have demonstrated that your word is no damned good. When your word is no damned good, you are no damned good.
Any time any person breaches any contract or commits any crime where I'm not directly involved, it doesn't do me any direct or immediate harm, buy that doesn't mean it does me no harm. When people start ignoring contracts, civil law, criminal law and court orders, and their ignoring them is ignored, it has the effect of destroying civilization. That does me harm.
However, if you agree with Bundy that the United States doesn't exist and every man is a law unto himself, in other words a sovereign citizen, disregard the above.
Here we go again....this is getting old.
It was not a state case.....state had nothing to do with it...no state law involved, lease was not let by the state....because the state DOESNT OWN THE LAND.
Dont like that? Too bad.....thats how it is. Still dont like it?...use the process given to us by the founders (and one of those was a major one that bought a whole lot of land while in the white house......and a large part of that land is STILL federally owned.....you may have heard of him.....he was some guy named Jefferson)and elect representatives and Senators...or even a POTUS that will sell or give all that land to the states....
till then......live with it....in PEACE.
Now why a lean is not on Budys ranch I can answer. There SHOULD be....he should also be in jail.....
We are a nation of laws and courts.
And when they start applying the laws to everyone equally then I'll start believing that BS! We've got several million people here in this country illegally thumbing their noses at our government and nothing is being done about it but yet the government has the time and money to harass one old farmer just because they can. If he were an illegal the government would be making all kinds of excuses why he should be able to stay on the land.
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
We are a nation of laws and courts.
And when they start applying the laws to everyone equally then I'll start believing that BS! We've got several million people here in this country illegally thumbing their noses at our government and nothing is being done about it but yet the government has the time and money to harass one old farmer just because they can. If he were an illegal the government would be making all kinds of excuses why he should be able to stay on the land.
While you are correct in the fact that the government should be kicking out illegals.....it has NOTHING....NOTHING at all to due with Bundy.....which happens to be what we are talking about on this thread.
Which also leads me to a thought.......Bundy has admitted to working with illegals. He said they are good, hard working people....wonder just how many have, and still do, work for HIM?
Then you should really be outraged at what Obama has been doing to the Constitution with his "pen" in the Oval Office.
What Obama has done and is doing is so destructive to this country the two can't be compared. Obama is worse than Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D. Roosevelt, William Jefferson (Moscow Bill) Clinton and Jimmy (peanut) Carter put together, but Obama kept his word, he has fundamentally transformed this once great nation.
Now, what does that have to do with a man who won't pay his rent, claims property he doesn't own and ignores court orders?
Nothing new here. Anyone who publicly stands up to government is immediately branded as a right-wing, racist, samephobic extremist of a white supremacist former Nazi KKK member.
Case & point below.
You are here
so I guess we are yoked in some sort of a way.
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by captnobody
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
quote:Originally posted by the middle
Racist or not....he shot himself in the foot. Repeating it twice more was proving his stupidity.
This horse is dead...find a better poster boy.
You maybe? How about you Mr. Middle, would you stand up against tyranny? Ole Woodshed did! BTW the South ain't the whippin boy on this topic!...[:D][:D] Thanks Roger for standing up and being counted!
I would be more than willing to lay it all on the line if REAL tyranny was in play. That is not the case for this moron. He is wrong in every way. Freeloader just as bad has any welfare scum....only worse because he draws armed nutjobs like a fly draws to chit...
If he was in the right...in any way....Id get behind him...but he is not. He stiffed us on the rent...lied about his family being on the land in the 1880s....they didnt get to Nevada till 1946....and he cant keep his stupid mouth shut about matters that go without saying
Damn guys......pick a better rally point.
I sure wouldn't want you covering my back I'll take what you call nut jobs anyday of the week over you
So, you would rather have a COWARD like this moron watching your back?
Tell me, how is his attitude any different from the rag heads when they strap bombs onto kids and make them suicide bombers?
ANSWER....its NOT!!!
Sure, go ahead, team up with idiots like this.......
If you were being attacked by the Feds for no reason, as in actual tyranny going down, and not some paranoid delusional fantasy, I would have your back.
I would be me, and a few friends, and we would not be bringing women and children along for human shields.
Bundy does not qualify for that kind of support from me.....because he brought on all his problems onto himself.
Its a very sad state that the militias all decided that THIS was the moment, HE was the cause and calling to run across the country to defend liberty, because they HAVE NOT advanced the cause of conservative ideals, or helped the cause of gun owners. They have done just the opposite. People see idiots like this Sheriff Mack spouting off about "rogue" federal agents and using human shields. They see photos on men dressed in black laying behind a jersey barrier pointing guns at cops........it doesnt help the cause of the right.....all it does is knock more people from the middle, the "silent majority", into the gun grabber/anti militia category.
The fact that the government backed off from shooting those human shields speaks volumes to those people......now, its not the government they see on the news running around the desert with guns......its the militia.....it makes them the "rogues"!
quote:Originally posted by calrugerfan
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
He is still a deadbeat who doesn't pay the fees that he owes for grazing.
How was he supposed to pay grazing fees when they revoked his permit? You could say that he owes fines or penalties but not fees. That is like saying that you owe registration on your car even though they won't renew it.
If he would have removed his cows....like the court told him too, then he wouldnt owe them.....but he didnt. Then he doubled down and ran his cows further into NPS ground......
You still didn't answer the question. They revoked his permit so why would he pay for a permit they wouldn't give him? Again, you can say that he owes a fine or a penalty but not a fee. As to paying a fine or a penalty, I wouldn't pay it as a way to protest.
quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
Case & point below.
You are here
so I guess we are yoked in some sort of a way.
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by captnobody
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
quote:Originally posted by the middle
Racist or not....he shot himself in the foot. Repeating it twice more was proving his stupidity.
This horse is dead...find a better poster boy.
You maybe? How about you Mr. Middle, would you stand up against tyranny? Ole Woodshed did! BTW the South ain't the whippin boy on this topic!...[:D][:D] Thanks Roger for standing up and being counted!
I would be more than willing to lay it all on the line if REAL tyranny was in play. That is not the case for this moron. He is wrong in every way. Freeloader just as bad has any welfare scum....only worse because he draws armed nutjobs like a fly draws to chit...
If he was in the right...in any way....Id get behind him...but he is not. He stiffed us on the rent...lied about his family being on the land in the 1880s....they didnt get to Nevada till 1946....and he cant keep his stupid mouth shut about matters that go without saying
Damn guys......pick a better rally point.
I sure wouldn't want you covering my back I'll take what you call nut jobs anyday of the week over you
So, you would rather have a COWARD like this moron watching your back?
Tell me, how is his attitude any different from the rag heads when they strap bombs onto kids and make them suicide bombers?
ANSWER....its NOT!!!
Sure, go ahead, team up with idiots like this.......
If you were being attacked by the Feds for no reason, as in actual tyranny going down, and not some paranoid delusional fantasy, I would have your back.
I would be me, and a few friends, and we would not be bringing women and children along for human shields.
Bundy does not qualify for that kind of support from me.....because he brought on all his problems onto himself.
Its a very sad state that the militias all decided that THIS was the moment, HE was the cause and calling to run across the country to defend liberty, because they HAVE NOT advanced the cause of conservative ideals, or helped the cause of gun owners. They have done just the opposite. People see idiots like this Sheriff Mack spouting off about "rogue" federal agents and using human shields. They see photos on men dressed in black laying behind a jersey barrier pointing guns at cops........it doesnt help the cause of the right.....all it does is knock more people from the middle, the "silent majority", into the gun grabber/anti militia category.
The fact that the government backed off from shooting those human shields speaks volumes to those people......now, its not the government they see on the news running around the desert with guns......its the militia.....it makes them the "rogues"!
He is still a deadbeat who doesn't pay the fees that he owes for grazing.
X-Ring, and when a renter does not pay the rent you evict him. No hero, he is a deabeat.
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
He is still a deadbeat who doesn't pay the fees that he owes for grazing.
X-Ring, and when a renter does not pay the rent you evict him. No hero, he is a deabeat.
Yep,and when said renter fails to pay you file a judgement against them for money owed. Then you garnish wages or or put leins against property and assets. You don't storm the renter with Federal agents,threatning lives,stealing and destroying property. quote:Originally posted by He Dog
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
He is still a deadbeat who doesn't pay the fees that he owes for grazing.
X-Ring, and when a renter does not pay the rent you evict him. No hero, he is a deabeat.
How long has this been going on. Again How long.
All of this has been done, Bundy ignores the Court orders bcause he believes he is above them, whats so hard to understand that for 20years this has been going to court and EVERY time, Bundy lost. Now I will agree the Government was too heavy handed with the Free speach zones and Federal Agents but you also have to understand since all of this started 20 years ago the BLM office has been pipebombed twice and Bundy himself has publicly made many comments about owning firearms and going into a Rangewar with the Government. I can understand the Government wishing to protect their people on the Ground,, they just went overboard with it with the posted snipers. IMHO they should wait until the next time Bundy goes to town, pick him up on contemp of court charges and keep him in jail until his Family removes the cattle. Problem solved with no danger of bystanders getting caught in the crossfire
Clouder..
quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
Case & point below.
You are here
so I guess we are yoked in some sort of a way.
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by captnobody
quote:Originally posted by the middle
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
quote:Originally posted by the middle
Racist or not....he shot himself in the foot. Repeating it twice more was proving his stupidity.
This horse is dead...find a better poster boy.
You maybe? How about you Mr. Middle, would you stand up against tyranny? Ole Woodshed did! BTW the South ain't the whippin boy on this topic!...[:D][:D] Thanks Roger for standing up and being counted!
I would be more than willing to lay it all on the line if REAL tyranny was in play. That is not the case for this moron. He is wrong in every way. Freeloader just as bad has any welfare scum....only worse because he draws armed nutjobs like a fly draws to chit...
If he was in the right...in any way....Id get behind him...but he is not. He stiffed us on the rent...lied about his family being on the land in the 1880s....they didnt get to Nevada till 1946....and he cant keep his stupid mouth shut about matters that go without saying
Damn guys......pick a better rally point.
I sure wouldn't want you covering my back I'll take what you call nut jobs anyday of the week over you
So, you would rather have a COWARD like this moron watching your back?
Tell me, how is his attitude any different from the rag heads when they strap bombs onto kids and make them suicide bombers?
ANSWER....its NOT!!!
Sure, go ahead, team up with idiots like this.......
If you were being attacked by the Feds for no reason, as in actual tyranny going down, and not some paranoid delusional fantasy, I would have your back.
I would be me, and a few friends, and we would not be bringing women and children along for human shields.
Bundy does not qualify for that kind of support from me.....because he brought on all his problems onto himself.
Its a very sad state that the militias all decided that THIS was the moment, HE was the cause and calling to run across the country to defend liberty, because they HAVE NOT advanced the cause of conservative ideals, or helped the cause of gun owners. They have done just the opposite. People see idiots like this Sheriff Mack spouting off about "rogue" federal agents and using human shields. They see photos on men dressed in black laying behind a jersey barrier pointing guns at cops........it doesnt help the cause of the right.....all it does is knock more people from the middle, the "silent majority", into the gun grabber/anti militia category.
The fact that the government backed off from shooting those human shields speaks volumes to those people......now, its not the government they see on the news running around the desert with guns......its the militia.....it makes them the "rogues"!
Some how I knew you would take that stance.....after all they are "Union" troops....literally........
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quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
Case & point below.
You are here
so I guess we are yoked in some sort of a way.
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Racist or not....he shot himself in the foot. Repeating it twice more was proving his stupidity.
This horse is dead...find a better poster boy.
You maybe? How about you Mr. Middle, would you stand up against tyranny? Ole Woodshed did! BTW the South ain't the whippin boy on this topic!...[:D][:D] Thanks Roger for standing up and being counted!
I would be more than willing to lay it all on the line if REAL tyranny was in play. That is not the case for this moron. He is wrong in every way. Freeloader just as bad has any welfare scum....only worse because he draws armed nutjobs like a fly draws to chit...
If he was in the right...in any way....Id get behind him...but he is not. He stiffed us on the rent...lied about his family being on the land in the 1880s....they didnt get to Nevada till 1946....and he cant keep his stupid mouth shut about matters that go without saying
Damn guys......pick a better rally point.
I sure wouldn't want you covering my back I'll take what you call nut jobs anyday of the week over you
So, you would rather have a COWARD like this moron watching your back?
Tell me, how is his attitude any different from the rag heads when they strap bombs onto kids and make them suicide bombers?
ANSWER....its NOT!!!
Sure, go ahead, team up with idiots like this.......
If you were being attacked by the Feds for no reason, as in actual tyranny going down, and not some paranoid delusional fantasy, I would have your back.
I would be me, and a few friends, and we would not be bringing women and children along for human shields.
Bundy does not qualify for that kind of support from me.....because he brought on all his problems onto himself.
Its a very sad state that the militias all decided that THIS was the moment, HE was the cause and calling to run across the country to defend liberty, because they HAVE NOT advanced the cause of conservative ideals, or helped the cause of gun owners. They have done just the opposite. People see idiots like this Sheriff Mack spouting off about "rogue" federal agents and using human shields. They see photos on men dressed in black laying behind a jersey barrier pointing guns at cops........it doesnt help the cause of the right.....all it does is knock more people from the middle, the "silent majority", into the gun grabber/anti militia category.
The fact that the government backed off from shooting those human shields speaks volumes to those people......now, its not the government they see on the news running around the desert with guns......its the militia.....it makes them the "rogues"!
Some how I knew you would take that stance.....after all they are "Union" troops....literally........
You need to give it up Pwillie. Its old and stale, and Im not going to take the bait......get new material already.