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  • River RatRiver Rat Member Posts: 9,022
    edited November -1
    I think Woodhog nailed it pretty well.

    I would go the extra yard to protect innocent life. I would also go the extra yard to extract justice from someone who is guilty of a heinous crime.

    I suppose you could say I am "pro choice" in this matter, because depending on the age and maturity of my daughter there are several choices. The child could be put up for adoption, she could raise it as her own, or my wife and I could raise it. Unless the health of the mother was in extreme danger, abortion would not be an option.

    Actually, very dear friends of ours have had an almost identical situation to the scenario you described. The young child is now four, and is being raised by his grandparents and aunt. He is a terrific young kid, and I'm glad he didn't have to bear the punishment for his father's sperm donor's behavior.
  • River RatRiver Rat Member Posts: 9,022
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by redneckandy
    Could you imagine raising the child knowing how it was conceived? Everytime you look at the kid and being reminded what happened.


    Oddly, every time I look at my kids I don't reflect on how they were conceived (I'd rather not, considering their mother -- my ex -- and I despise each other). Rather, I delight in who they are.
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    I don't have a daughter. I do have Gabby, and love her as a daughter, but I don't have a young woman in my life that I raised from an infant. But, I will try to answer the question as though I had one.

    If my daughter was a child, her mother and I would make the decisions. If she was an adult, then I would offer advice, encouragement, and counsel.

    Preservation of innocent life would be my primary concern, and in this case, there are two of them. My first concern would be for my daughter, and we would consult with physicians to see whether the girl could safely carry the child to term, or if this pregnancy would harm or threaten her health.

    Assuming that there was no reason that the child could not be carried to term, I would encourage my daughter to do just that. Then, if my daughter is an adult, she would have to decide whether to raise the child or give it to a family. If she is a child herself, that decision would be mine and her mother's, but I lean strongly toward adoption.

    If my daughter were an adult, and decided to have an abortion, I would still love my daughter, but I would not support her decision or help her to get it done.

    In any event, the race of my daughter and that of the rapist are irrelevant, in my opinion.
  • mystrymanmystryman Member Posts: 577 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    my stance on this is:
    I'd support her in any decision she makes. It's her body and her decision. She has to live with her decision, not me. I have 2 daughters and have thought about this senerio several times. I'm not a woman and believe that this type of decision is up to the woman, not us men.
    If I ever found out who did it, regardless of race, I would kill him. No question about it. He would have to die.
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My religion says birth the child,but ever situation has its own rewards..Alife? A death?....social issues usually determines the outcome..
  • 1880texan1880texan Member Posts: 978 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • JnRockwallJnRockwall Member Posts: 16,352 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by armilite
    I'd be worried more if she was raped by a Democrat.


    Isnt that what the op described?
  • sharpshooter039sharpshooter039 Member Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am going to give a little different answer that may get me in trouble..If she was raped,,when it was over the first place she better head is to the Hospital, After it is reported, the rape kit done and everything else needed is taken care of,, the Hospital will give her anti-hiv drugs,,Then the Hospital will offer the day after pill, or someting similar to make sure there is no pregnancy to have to deal with, if the anti-baby drugs did not work then yes Abortion is an option,,,,NOW "the part thats gonna get me"" If she did not go to the hospital,,if she did not report it as a Rape,,IMHO she should be forced to have it, she can keep it or give it up ,,but if its not reported it should have to go to term
  • susiesusie Member Posts: 7,679 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes this is a hard core question, one that can not be easily answered in a couple of paragraphs on an internet forum. The answer lies in the life the daughter has led up to this point.

    Family support structure, religious affiliation and adherence to same, racial tolerance or lack thereof in the family, mental and physical maturity of the daughter to go through the pregnancy.

    Once these questions are answered then the family makes the decision to abort or go to term and from birth to keep or adopt.

    That is a decision that is deeply personal and can not receive a canned answer from a broad spectrum of strangers.

    Let me add this caveat:

    My niece and her husband LOVE children. They began attempting to have a family after about a year of marriage. I saw them go through the heartbreak of two miscarriages and the loss of their dreams. When she was told that it her dreams of a family were bleak to non-existent she reached out and offered love, warmth and security to two precious angels who were adopted fresh from the baby garden.

    My niece and her husband are VERY white. Both of their precious angels are light skinned black children. Culturally they are being raised white, but their ethnic backgrounds are not subverted nor denied. The families with which they interact do not view these children as any different, but embrace them and celebrate their lives since they are surrounded by loving, caring parents.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    Well, if the choice is to kill the child, I will wait until after it's born so that there's much less possible harm to my daughter. That'll show that rapist what's what!
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,836 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If it was a knock out drag into bushes rape the law should allow an abotion, of the rapist. For me I think too many times a bad seed begets a bad seed.
  • JnRockwallJnRockwall Member Posts: 16,352 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would be in prison for animal cruelty
  • CS8161CS8161 Member Posts: 13,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    I don't have a daughter. I do have Gabby, and love her as a daughter, but I don't have a young woman in my life that I raised from an infant. But, I will try to answer the question as though I had one.

    If my daughter was a child, her mother and I would make the decisions. If she was an adult, then I would offer advice, encouragement, and counsel.

    Preservation of innocent life would be my primary concern, and in this case, there are two of them. My first concern would be for my daughter, and we would consult with physicians to see whether the girl could safely carry the child to term, or if this pregnancy would harm or threaten her health.

    Assuming that there was no reason that the child could not be carried to term, I would encourage my daughter to do just that. Then, if my daughter is an adult, she would have to decide whether to raise the child or give it to a family. If she is a child herself, that decision would be mine and her mother's, but I lean strongly toward adoption.

    If my daughter were an adult, and decided to have an abortion, I would still love my daughter, but I would not support her decision or help her to get it done.

    In any event, the race of my daughter and that of the rapist are irrelevant, in my opinion.

    +1
  • evileye fleagalevileye fleagal Member Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ummm the morning after pill, while they are doing the rape kit. she would never know, that and a valium to help her sleep.

    then hold her close and let her know how he is gonna pass away.

    i can hear her now, daddy is that even possiable.
  • GUNFUNCOGUNFUNCO Member Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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  • MaxOHMSMaxOHMS Member Posts: 14,715
    edited November -1
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by sharpshooter039
    I am going to give a little different answer that may get me in trouble..If she was raped,,when it was over the first place she better head is to the Hospital, After it is reported, the rape kit done and everything else needed is taken care of,, the Hospital will give her anti-hiv drugs,,Then the Hospital will offer the day after pill, or someting similar to make sure there is no pregnancy to have to deal with, if the anti-baby drugs did not work then yes Abortion is an option,,,,NOW "the part thats gonna get me"" If she did not go to the hospital,,if she did not report it as a Rape,,IMHO she should be forced to have it, she can keep it or give it up ,,but if its not reported it should have to go to term


    Very interesting and well thought out answer. [^]
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