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A Birmingham Officer ran my daughter off the road!
I will tell my brother-in-law. He is on the B'ham Dept. He says there are many of those like you described on that force. They think they are above the law. That badge gives them cart-blanche to behave like fools.
I hope you find out who it was. Give that story to the B'ham news. They have a few reporters that would love to run with that. Good luck and nail that Witch. The new chief wants better than that.
Sgt. Green of Internal Affairs is who I spoke with this morning. I will see if he will do what he should....but at the same time I have some calls in to some of my buddies to see if I can figure out who this is. I will go another route if I have to, but for now I am hoping that they will handle this.
Painthorses....I really do need a vacation.
BUT..... Even if I had sat on a beach for 6 months straight and had a massage for two hours every day of the 6 months....if a car runs my daughter off the road in front of me I wouldn't handle it any differently.
Guns I'm listing later today (hopefully)....Smith 19 in AWESOME shape with fatory box-n-all, Colt series 70 1911, Winchester src 44mag 1970s. (I took them home this past Sunday to list, but didn't get it done because of "chores" and a firework show I had to go to.)
quote:Originally posted by Locust Fork
I'm hoping that the transportation dept. cameras caught it all. I plan on asking when I go to file my complaint Monday. The race issue means nothing in this. My description of the driver is only to help them find who this person is and the fact that she was black has no "play" in my feelings. When I went after the car that ran her off the road I thought I was as mad as I possibly could be....but when I saw the uniform and the lights came on in that car showing that this was NOT an average person I was nearly livid.
I would remove the "african american" and the "black" descriptions if it were me.
I know you're only describing her but I think female would be enough description.
Good advice.
Especially given that you are in Alabama, when the supervisor reads those three words, you will be labeled as a "cracker" and your complaint goes in the trash.
I haven't had a chance to submit my typewritten account of what happened, but if I do I will take your suggestions and try to come up with a way to describe a black lady without insulting anyone by calling her an "African American." I just don't know how else to handle this...it turns out that this license plate is an unregistered tag and could have been driven by any of the hundreds of detectives.....and it just may come down to her description.
quote:Originally posted by Locust Fork
I haven't had a chance to submit my typewritten account of what happened, but if I do I will take your suggestions and try to come up with a way to describe a black lady without insulting anyone by calling her an "African American." I just don't know how else to handle this...it turns out that this license plate is an unregistered tag and could have been driven by any of the hundreds of detectives.....and it just may come down to her description.
There should be some kind of record of who was driving it at the time of the incident.
They know darn well who this is and I bet that she has already been given the word that I am hunting her down, but getting them to actually hand over her name will be hard. I do plan on going to the media if I have to. There is a local news station (6 on your side) that has a history of solving problems by shining a light on the problem....but who knows if they will take on this issue.
I haven't read the story in detail, so I apologize if this is out of line. Was this a traffic mistake on the officer's part? An error in judgement, a momentary lapse of attention? If the car and driver were some unidentifiable sedan with an unidentifiable driver, would you have gotten this angry, and gone to these lengths to identify the driver?
The entire written statement of what happened has been posted in this thread (about halfway down the first page.) This was NO "mistake" and the lanes are clearly marked. Her lane ended and she continued to drive on....until she just came up to my daughter and then ran her off the road. The line of cars driving along the right hand lane were all safely going alone. This nut job comes up speeding along a lane that is marked several times that it is ending and just continues along as if nothing pertains to her and the painted lines are mearly "suggestions."
I just want the driver that endangered my child to have to THINK about what they did. The fact that this is an officer actually makes this harder to achive if it were a civilian driver. If I gave the tag # and it were anyone but an officer this would be over and done with by now. I think I am getting a bit of the "run around" because they are covering for this woman...and I fully understand how this works. I am not going to let this go and I am in the right to be as upset as I am.
If someone pointed a gun at her in the store....what should I do? If someone pushed her off a cliff....then what? If a speeding car comes up and runs her off the road....hunt this person down and give them a piece of my mind is VERY acceptable in my mind.
The "hormone" comment was a good-natured joke, and I hope it was taken that way.
LF: A few weeks ago, I made an error in traffic, and caused an accident, in a police car. I had no idea the other car was anywhere around, and I started a U-turn to go after a speeder. From the right lane, I turned in front of a car in the left lane and we collided.
Fortunately, no one was hurt. There were two males, a father and son, in the other car, so hormones didn't come into play. My Crown Vic had to have a new left front fender and a tie rod end. The other fellow's Ford Focus was a total.
The accident was totally my fault, and the accident investigation, performed by an officer from my department, so reflected. The city is self-insured, so someone wrote the man a check for his car. I got 8 points at the accident review, and a letter of reprimand. I can make the points go away if I take a defensive driving course.
I have been driving for 40 years, and for over 30 of those years, I have been driving as part of my job. I have multiple safe driving awards, but when you drive as much as I do, in traffic, looking at and for things other than what is required to get where I am going, sooner or later you are going to have an accident.
That was why I asked what I asked. Cops are just people. People make mistakes. Some mistakes are minor, while others are grievous. It's an imperfect world we live in, and poo happens.
Do I feel bad about the accident? Yes. I surely do. Would I have taken a "piece of (someone's) mind" had it been offered. Yes, probably so. As it was, I made sure everyone was all right, called the proper authorities, and stayed away from the people in the other car to avoid an appearance of improper influence.
Nunn....I know your were kidding. This forum is more like family and I wouldn't post my tales unless it were this way. I wish I could better describe where this all took place. It was one of those things that was obviously one of those moments where one driver (the officer) was consumed with trying to be ahead of other drivers with no concideration for anyone else or the rules of the road.
I'm not going after this driver because she is an officer.....but ONLY because of what she did.
Not to change the subject but, I was driving home yesterday and a WV state trooper had attempted a U-turn in the median on interstate 77. He burried his car by turning before he went thru the dip. When I got there the tow truck was pulling him out. [:D]
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I hope you find out who it was. Give that story to the B'ham news. They have a few reporters that would love to run with that. Good luck and nail that Witch. The new chief wants better than that.
Painthorses....I really do need a vacation.
BUT..... Even if I had sat on a beach for 6 months straight and had a massage for two hours every day of the 6 months....if a car runs my daughter off the road in front of me I wouldn't handle it any differently.
Guns I'm listing later today (hopefully)....Smith 19 in AWESOME shape with fatory box-n-all, Colt series 70 1911, Winchester src 44mag 1970s. (I took them home this past Sunday to list, but didn't get it done because of "chores" and a firework show I had to go to.)
I'm hoping that the transportation dept. cameras caught it all. I plan on asking when I go to file my complaint Monday. The race issue means nothing in this. My description of the driver is only to help them find who this person is and the fact that she was black has no "play" in my feelings. When I went after the car that ran her off the road I thought I was as mad as I possibly could be....but when I saw the uniform and the lights came on in that car showing that this was NOT an average person I was nearly livid.
I would remove the "african american" and the "black" descriptions if it were me.
I know you're only describing her but I think female would be enough description.
Good advice.
Especially given that you are in Alabama, when the supervisor reads those three words, you will be labeled as a "cracker" and your complaint goes in the trash.
I haven't had a chance to submit my typewritten account of what happened, but if I do I will take your suggestions and try to come up with a way to describe a black lady without insulting anyone by calling her an "African American." I just don't know how else to handle this...it turns out that this license plate is an unregistered tag and could have been driven by any of the hundreds of detectives.....and it just may come down to her description.
There should be some kind of record of who was driving it at the time of the incident.
They know darn well who this is and I bet that she has already been given the word that I am hunting her down, but getting them to actually hand over her name will be hard. I do plan on going to the media if I have to. There is a local news station (6 on your side) that has a history of solving problems by shining a light on the problem....but who knows if they will take on this issue.
I just want the driver that endangered my child to have to THINK about what they did. The fact that this is an officer actually makes this harder to achive if it were a civilian driver. If I gave the tag # and it were anyone but an officer this would be over and done with by now. I think I am getting a bit of the "run around" because they are covering for this woman...and I fully understand how this works. I am not going to let this go and I am in the right to be as upset as I am.
If someone pointed a gun at her in the store....what should I do? If someone pushed her off a cliff....then what? If a speeding car comes up and runs her off the road....hunt this person down and give them a piece of my mind is VERY acceptable in my mind.
Hormones.
LOL
Hormones.
You know how to make a hormone?
Don't pay her
LF: A few weeks ago, I made an error in traffic, and caused an accident, in a police car. I had no idea the other car was anywhere around, and I started a U-turn to go after a speeder. From the right lane, I turned in front of a car in the left lane and we collided.
Fortunately, no one was hurt. There were two males, a father and son, in the other car, so hormones didn't come into play. My Crown Vic had to have a new left front fender and a tie rod end. The other fellow's Ford Focus was a total.
The accident was totally my fault, and the accident investigation, performed by an officer from my department, so reflected. The city is self-insured, so someone wrote the man a check for his car. I got 8 points at the accident review, and a letter of reprimand. I can make the points go away if I take a defensive driving course.
I have been driving for 40 years, and for over 30 of those years, I have been driving as part of my job. I have multiple safe driving awards, but when you drive as much as I do, in traffic, looking at and for things other than what is required to get where I am going, sooner or later you are going to have an accident.
That was why I asked what I asked. Cops are just people. People make mistakes. Some mistakes are minor, while others are grievous. It's an imperfect world we live in, and poo happens.
Do I feel bad about the accident? Yes. I surely do. Would I have taken a "piece of (someone's) mind" had it been offered. Yes, probably so. As it was, I made sure everyone was all right, called the proper authorities, and stayed away from the people in the other car to avoid an appearance of improper influence.
Not only taken as a joke, but replied to with another joke (and a old one at that)
I sent you an e-mail referance this.
I'm not going after this driver because she is an officer.....but ONLY because of what she did.