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I blew up a Glock...flame away if you will--UPDATE
Sig220_Ruger77
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UPDATE 3-1: My Glock will be home Friday!
UPDATE 2-15: Glock called today to confirm that the frame is junk, but the slide is fine. They are putting a new SF frame on for me at a cost $105 with tax. Underwood ageed to cover that. Glock also confirmed that the gun didn't fire out of battery and the primer strike was near perfect.
In short, Underwood Ammo ordered me a new barrel and is sending me replacement ammo, on top of the frame replacement. They have really been a pleasure to deal with given the circumstances. I have talked with them 4 times now and we have even discussed other stuff pertaining to other guns and ammo. Justin is a good guy who knows what he's talking about.
UPDATE: I dropped my pistol off at a local FFL to have shipped out. Glock isn't sending me a shipping label, so I do have to pay shipping up front. I am hoping that gets reimbursed by Glock, or more than likely, Underwood Ammo. It should ship out tomorrow.
UPDATE 2: I spoke with a sales lady from EFK Fire Dragon. She took all the information including the names of the Tech guys from Glock and Underwood Ammo, that I spoke to. I also sent all the pictures into them. Now we have a 3-headed attack working on this thing.
Yep, I done did it. I blew up my Glock 30SF. I have contacted Glock and the ammo company. They both seem to be in agreement with the information and pictures I sent, that it seems to be a ammunition issue. It most likely was a overcharged round. It blew straight out the bottom of the case, breaking the polymer near my trigger finger, breaking the trigger off in 2 pieces, breaking the slide stop lever right off, putting cracks down both sides of the grip, and cracking the magazine in multiple spots.
I will report more of the details after results are found. I am shipping the pistol to Glock, per their request, and should know more after that. I have already been guaranteed a replacement, weather Glock or the ammo company covers it.
Personally, I am just extremely fortunate that I was wearing gloves and sun glasses. Had it been summer, I may not have had the gloves on. I suffered no injuries that have surfaced at this time. I can tell you that my right index finger, down to the tip of my right thumb, as well as my left thumb, felt like they were almost frost-bitten and then smacked between 2 bricks. I was extremely scared, adrenalin running.....when and for about 20 minutes after the incident. Here are some pictures.
Jon
UPDATE 2-15: Glock called today to confirm that the frame is junk, but the slide is fine. They are putting a new SF frame on for me at a cost $105 with tax. Underwood ageed to cover that. Glock also confirmed that the gun didn't fire out of battery and the primer strike was near perfect.
In short, Underwood Ammo ordered me a new barrel and is sending me replacement ammo, on top of the frame replacement. They have really been a pleasure to deal with given the circumstances. I have talked with them 4 times now and we have even discussed other stuff pertaining to other guns and ammo. Justin is a good guy who knows what he's talking about.
UPDATE: I dropped my pistol off at a local FFL to have shipped out. Glock isn't sending me a shipping label, so I do have to pay shipping up front. I am hoping that gets reimbursed by Glock, or more than likely, Underwood Ammo. It should ship out tomorrow.
UPDATE 2: I spoke with a sales lady from EFK Fire Dragon. She took all the information including the names of the Tech guys from Glock and Underwood Ammo, that I spoke to. I also sent all the pictures into them. Now we have a 3-headed attack working on this thing.
Yep, I done did it. I blew up my Glock 30SF. I have contacted Glock and the ammo company. They both seem to be in agreement with the information and pictures I sent, that it seems to be a ammunition issue. It most likely was a overcharged round. It blew straight out the bottom of the case, breaking the polymer near my trigger finger, breaking the trigger off in 2 pieces, breaking the slide stop lever right off, putting cracks down both sides of the grip, and cracking the magazine in multiple spots.
I will report more of the details after results are found. I am shipping the pistol to Glock, per their request, and should know more after that. I have already been guaranteed a replacement, weather Glock or the ammo company covers it.
Personally, I am just extremely fortunate that I was wearing gloves and sun glasses. Had it been summer, I may not have had the gloves on. I suffered no injuries that have surfaced at this time. I can tell you that my right index finger, down to the tip of my right thumb, as well as my left thumb, felt like they were almost frost-bitten and then smacked between 2 bricks. I was extremely scared, adrenalin running.....when and for about 20 minutes after the incident. Here are some pictures.
Jon
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What ammo?
Underwood Ammunition 10mm 200 Gr. XTP. It was purchased 2-3 years ago in bulk by myself. Myself, my dad, my uncle, and my cousin have all fired some of it through 4 different Glock 10mm guns.
It is some hot stuff, but the fact that we had fired it in other Glock 10mm pistols, along with the fact I had fired over 100 rounds of lower pressure 10mm the past few days.....and the fact that this round was the very 1st round of this ammo I tried firing through this 10mm barrel, seems to point towards the ammo. In particular, one bad round. I am just fortunate that I was the one firing the pistol and not a friend or my wife.
We did have a slight problem with a few cases that were fired in one of the other 10mm's that we were not aware of until now. We had inspected the 1st few cases fired from each gun, but obviously not all of them. My dad had a full box of 50 1x fired brass of these same 200 gr. XTP's and when we examined them, we found 3 cases that had small marks on the brass. They were small cracks or indentations that appeared in what looks to be the same places where this one blew out in my pistol.
I know that Underwood Ammo has since changed their nickel plated 10mm brass and am wondering if this has something to do with the change?
Jon
Underwood Ammo's "brand new facility" as they call it on their website is a garage behind somebody's house. Looks like some reloader decided he would go into business selling ammo.
I wouldn't shoot that junk anymore than I would some stranger's reloads.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=524807
The ammo company took responsibility for this one too.
quote:Originally posted by drobs
What ammo?
Underwood Ammunition 10mm 200 Gr. XTP. It was purchased 2-3 years ago in bulk by myself. Myself, my dad, my uncle, and my cousin have all fired some of it through 4 different Glock 10mm guns.
It is some hot stuff, but the fact that we had fired it in other Glock 10mm pistols, along with the fact I had fired over 100 rounds of lower pressure 10mm the past few days.....and the fact that this round was the very 1st round of this ammo I tried firing through this 10mm barrel, seems to point towards the ammo. In particular, one bad round. I am just fortunate that I was the one firing the pistol and not a friend or my wife.
We did have a slight problem with a few cases that were fired in one of the other 10mm's that we were not aware of until now. We had inspected the 1st few cases fired from each gun, but obviously not all of them. My dad had a full box of 50 1x fired brass of these same 200 gr. XTP's and when we examined them, we found 3 cases that had small marks on the brass. They were small cracks or indentations that appeared in what looks to be the same places where this one blew out in my pistol.
I know that Underwood Ammo has since changed their nickel plated 10mm brass and am wondering if this has something to do with the change?
Jon
No warning on box. It was on their website.
Guns can be replaced, fingers and eyes, not so much.
funny glock catches flak for having an unsupported chamber, but S&W, sig, Beretta,CZ, colt, springfield, H&K, ruger, kel-tec all get a pass on the issue
Not necessarily an over pressure from too much/wrong powder,,,,,
Here's an example of 'bullet setback' causing an over pressure situation.
Exactly, that is believed to have occurred in the photos I presents. The QC for that lot of ammunition was terrible. they had improper case lengths, flared cases and bullets that were improperly seated.
Glad your OK , Ive seen this movie ( blown gun : not a Glock ) , its never fun !!!
Good luck with this ordeal ,,,,,
Get a Good Attorney !!!!!!!!!
Thanks !!!
I Grew Old Too Fast (And Smart Too damn Slow !!!) !!!
The Glock Smile
that guy is a complete idiot
That was a major failure. Many years ago I had some 44 Special factory ammo that was too hot for some reason and was splitting cases. I sent them back and received a replacement box.
I guess from now on not only will I advise against shooting another's reloads I will caution against shooting factory ammo as well.
Too old to live...too young to die...
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
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that guy is a complete idiot
Wasn't that a complete annoying presentation.
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
The Glock Smile
that guy is a complete idiot
Wasn't that a complete annoying presentation.
completely annoying, the misinformation was scary , i dont want to hijack sigs thread, but he was wrong from beginning to end
Capt. Jack Sparrow.
Glad you are ok. You had a Glocknade, I would ask Glock to send you a Beretta[8D]
they even have less of a supported chamber, would not have helped any
glad your OK
makes me want to shoot or own a Glock never [V]
Did you mike the bore? Are you sure it's not a mis-stamped 9mm barrel?
Neal
Looks like you came out of this unpleasant experience without any major injuries. Congratulations. Other might not have been so fortunate.
both from one of the first times I loaded Nosler 185 grain hollow point on once fired REM UMC once fired cases with V.V. 310 powder I thought the first failure was a powder over load Did no damage to pistol except the grips blew off hand turned black and magazine destroyed . I got home and put the rest of this ammo away tried this ammo again years later and second failure with same results I have been told I am a slow learner :-0came home and decided to pull those high price bullets . I normally load swaged lead bullets That I size and lube to .452 diameter spec.first tap of puller the bullet jumped out the case
WTH . Long story short Nosler bullets only .451 but also case wall thickness .004 thinner than all others I had used for many years results in bullet loaded with taper crimp in these REM UMC cases just barely held the bullet in the case I could push them with light pressure until the slid back in case and bullet touched the powder resulting in high pressure lesson learned take your ammo that you have left from this reloader "try for same head stamp as blown case this ammo you have and check to see if you can push the bullet down into the case with just moderate pressure
When it happens it surprises the hell out of you to say the least.
Sounds like you did the right thing.
I'm glad you're not seriously injured. Now get a 1911. [:D]
may not have made any difference
the first 1911 was a double charge happened during the Indiana state match, blew the grips off cutting his hands, as well as the magazine blew out the bottom, gun was none functioning
second 1911 was a squib load followed by a live round, during a match, turning the barrel into a foot ball locking up the gun, as well as ruining the grips and magazine, kimber did not warranty
two glocks, both double charged, same results as jon , both received new guns from glock, as i stated above one got his back in a week and a half , the other i did not know
your results may vary
its scary to think what could have happened ,
glad your OK
+2
I have seen case ruptures in steel and aluminum framed guns. When that happened, we sometimes had to put the trigger drawbar back on, but I didn't see any serious damage. Not so with a Glock. Get a case rupture in a Glock, and the plastic frame will break.