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Minimum caliber for a Grizzly.
Cutiegirlracing
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A friend of mine wants me to go on a Grizzly bear hunt with him.
I'm not really wanting to go. I don't think I can kill something that big. I mean killing snakes with garden hoe is different from killing a bear. I fell guilty if I kill a mouse. But that's a whole another subject. Besides I don't think he's looking just to hunt Grizzly bear.[:(!][:(!]
What would be the bare minimum caliber you would need to kill a Grizzly? 300 win mag or 300 RUM? And for agrument sake what would you want if you had to shoot one at distance, say 450 yards. I know a 50 bmg would do the job, but would you really want to carry a 50 bmg around in the back country for 2 weeks?
Another question what would be the minimum you would need to kill an Elk?
I know shot placement has alot to do with it. But I'm not going out in the back country packing a 22 single shot short pistol.
I'm not really wanting to go. I don't think I can kill something that big. I mean killing snakes with garden hoe is different from killing a bear. I fell guilty if I kill a mouse. But that's a whole another subject. Besides I don't think he's looking just to hunt Grizzly bear.[:(!][:(!]
What would be the bare minimum caliber you would need to kill a Grizzly? 300 win mag or 300 RUM? And for agrument sake what would you want if you had to shoot one at distance, say 450 yards. I know a 50 bmg would do the job, but would you really want to carry a 50 bmg around in the back country for 2 weeks?
Another question what would be the minimum you would need to kill an Elk?
I know shot placement has alot to do with it. But I'm not going out in the back country packing a 22 single shot short pistol.
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I don't know wherer you are going hunting but ever state I have lived in didn't have a season on griz
I was thinking the same thing. I was thinking they are endangered, but my friends says you can and he's not one to be wrong. So I'm not going to argue with him.
And like I said I'm not going to go with him, but I'm curious about what kind of caliber would do it.
I don't know wherer you are going hunting but ever state I have lived in didn't have a season on griz
same with me. Also you wouldnt want to lug 50cal around through the woods by no means. Sounds like he is just trying to either impress you or get some alone time with you maybe both. The 300 win mag is really good ive shot it and liked it, the .338 also very good choice just hope you hit on the first shot with .338 cause your shoulder probably will hate you if you take 2nd shot. Me personally id rather hunt bear with a bow, but then id prolly have to buy new set of hunting camo bottoms after the hunt. Ok i wouldnt hunt grizzly with bow, but you get what im sayin.
He gone Elk and some kind of Ram, don't remember for sure. And has always been trying to get me to go with him ever since. He goes every year.
But a cailber for a Grizzly should be good for a Polar right. Or can you even hunt Polar bears?
He's a link he emailed me a while back.
http://www.polarbearhunting.net/
Besides I don't think he's looking just to hunt Grizzly bear.[:(!][:(!]
Aw, give him a little bit of credit for originality. It beats going for a drive and running out of gas! [:D]
IMAGE TOO LARGE...it stretches the screen....cool pic though
If you think he after a prize other than griz then either have s long talk with him before hand or don't go.
Hope this helps.
A friend of mine wants me to go on a Grizzly bear hunt with him.
I'm not really wanting to go. I don't think I can kill something that big. I mean killing snakes with garden hoe is different from killing a bear. I fell guilty if I kill a mouse. But that's a whole another subject. Besides I don't think he's looking just to hunt Grizzly bear.[:(!][:(!]
What would be the bare minimum caliber you would need to kill a Grizzly? 300 win mag or 300 RUM? And for agrument sake what would you want if you had to shoot one at distance, say 450 yards. I know a 50 bmg would do the job, but would you really want to carry a 50 bmg around in the back country for 2 weeks?
Another question what would be the minimum you would need to kill an Elk?
I know shot placement has alot to do with it. But I'm not going out in the back country packing a 22 single shot short pistol.
450 Yds.. That is a long shot for about anything. I would go with a Barrett .50 and let the guide carry the gun.
I think he is on a beaver hunt![:D]
agrees with the jarhead.
I once asked him this very question, and he suggested minimum 338win mag for grizzly.
I asked him why not 300 win mag or 300 RUM? and he said it would be enough gun but if he were guiding he would be minimum of 3 ridges away prior to the guided took a shot at a grizzly with a 300 win or RUM
I would go with the .338 Win Mag and have a backup (another person) with something even bigger........ Good luck to your friend. But for me, I would have no desire to shoot a grizzly unless he was after me or mine.
quote:Originally posted by Cutiegirlracing
A friend of mine wants me to go on a Grizzly bear hunt with him.
I'm not really wanting to go. I don't think I can kill something that big. I mean killing snakes with garden hoe is different from killing a bear. I fell guilty if I kill a mouse. But that's a whole another subject. Besides I don't think he's looking just to hunt Grizzly bear.[:(!][:(!]
What would be the bare minimum caliber you would need to kill a Grizzly? 300 win mag or 300 RUM? And for agrument sake what would you want if you had to shoot one at distance, say 450 yards. I know a 50 bmg would do the job, but would you really want to carry a 50 bmg around in the back country for 2 weeks?
Another question what would be the minimum you would need to kill an Elk?
I know shot placement has alot to do with it. But I'm not going out in the back country packing a 22 single shot short pistol.
http://www.shootingtimes.com/ballistics/?url=/ballistics/300_rum.html&x=8&y=0
CP in Bonanza
Then again, bullet construction is probably more important. So is bullet placement. Betcha most Canadian and Alaskan griz killed by locals were dropped by .30-30, .30-06, or .303. A friend who ranches 20 miles up this valley from me tells the story of his dad, then a young man, killing a sow and two cubs in the late 1920s, with three shots from a Winchester 94 in .25-20 (although I wonder if it was really a Savage 99 in .250 Savage -- which would be more credible). For defense, a handgun or carbine should be loaded with hard-cast bullets to penetrate the brain pan, which is the only real shot you have in a frontal attack. A boiler-room shot from 250 yards would have completely different requirements.
So I recommend a bolt gun, no smaller than .30-06, loaded with some high-performance tips that will penetrate well. And if griz hunting (assuming this is not in Canada) you MUST carry a heavy revolver, no less than .41 mag, with hard-cast bullets and +P performance. If in handgun-free Canada, I would like someone behind me with a guide gun or African double as backup. This is the most dangerous animal in North America. Good luck! Take the trip! And report back to us!
A friend of mine wants me to go on a Grizzly bear hunt with him.
I'm not really wanting to go. I don't think I can kill something that big. I mean killing snakes with garden hoe is different from killing a bear. I fell guilty if I kill a mouse. But that's a whole another subject. Besides I don't think he's looking just to hunt Grizzly bear.[:(!][:(!]
What would be the bare minimum caliber you would need to kill a Grizzly? 300 win mag or 300 RUM? And for agrument sake what would you want if you had to shoot one at distance, say 450 yards. I know a 50 bmg would do the job, but would you really want to carry a 50 bmg around in the back country for 2 weeks?
Another question what would be the minimum you would need to kill an Elk?
I know shot placement has alot to do with it. But I'm not going out in the back country packing a 22 single shot short pistol.
Hey there CGR,
I would go with a 338 Winchester or RUM(the gun type...not the capt'n type). That would work swell for griz or Elk. I am not saying you are a wuss, but they do have recoil, and you should think about a break to help your frail little self with that.
He always said that he'd prefer to guide a man that knew what he was doing with a 30-40 Krag than a guy with the biggest cannon made that was afraid of the gun.
IOW carry the largest rifle that YOU can shoot comfortably
BTW, the Inutes kill polar bear with 223's on a regular basis
As far as your "buddy" goes, bring along a couple "zip ties" incase he get's froggy. Place one around "big jim" and one around "the twins" and cinch them both up tight. After that he won't bother you anymore [}:)]
Lets go kill a grizz just so we can say we did it!
Why not? LET'S GO FOR IT !!
Lets go kill a grizz just so we can say we did it!
Every time someone talks about bear hunting you pipe in and basically call them an idiot. Why don't you back away from the key board with your animal lovers mind set. God put animals on the planet for man to survive.
Seriously, the Federal Rangers on the AK peninsula carry Rem 870 pumps loaded with slugs.
quote:Originally posted by Chris8161
Lets go kill a grizz just so we can say we did it!
Every time someone talks about bear hunting you pipe in and basically call them an idiot. Why don't you back away from the key board with your animal lovers mind set. God put animals on the planet for man to survive.
I doubt this thread is about having bear stew for dinner. It's pleasue or trophy hunting.
CGR, you also asked about appropriate calibers for elk. A lot of local meat-hunters like myself prefer moderate rounds like the .30-06 or .308. Lots kill elk regularly with .270s. I shoot a 7-08, and love the cartridge (and the light rifle). I don't take long shots. If I did, or if I shot large bulls, I would borrow my wife's .300 win mag. My preferred elk scenario is a dry cow at 200 yards. I have been known to yell at a bull, to get him out of the way of a shot on a cow. Can't eat the dang horns, you know. If I was you, and hoping to have a classic (say, 300 yds.) shot across a canyon at a nice bull, I would look into the .338 federal. But I'm a wuss on recoil, and like .308-class cartridges. If you already have a .30-06, .308, .300 mag, or .338 mag. in a scoped rifle you are comfortable with, take it and place your shot well. You absolutely must have a scope, unless you plan to Dan'l Boone it and shoot from 100 yards. If you're going to do that, then get a .45-70.
Having a comfortable gun to carry is essential, especially if you are going to be walking over a lot of country. And you will.
quote:Originally posted by Chris8161
Lets go kill a grizz just so we can say we did it!
Every time someone talks about bear hunting you pipe in and basically call them an idiot. Why don't you back away from the key board with your animal lovers mind set. God put animals on the planet for man to survive.
I don't see any mention of the word "idiot" in my post...and I am just as entitled to my opinion as any other member of this board! If you don't agree with my opinion, thats ok with me. And I am happy that you are that close with GOD that you know his intentions! Thats great!
Danielle Boone done it with just a knife
But Daniel Boone was a man. He was a big man....