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Anti-NRA Blowhards

tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
edited August 2009 in General Discussion
Recently, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals decision in the case of the NRA vs Chicago ruled that the Heller decision making the 2nd Amendment an individual right, does not apply to states and gun rights.

(Note: this lawsuit, trying to prove that the Heller decision does make the second amendment apply to individuals and gun rights, and does force the states to recognize that right, was filed only and solely because of the time, money and effort of the NRA.)

In a competing case, in the 9th circuit court it was ruled that in the case of Nordyke vs King that the 2A does apply to the states.

So, since we have two conflicting decisions from two different circuit courts, this will probably end up going to the US Supreme Court. The NRA and gun owners like myself will be providing what help we can to make the supreme court hear this case and to decide in the favor of gun owners.

This is what the NRA and other gun owners like myself have been doing. In the meantime, what the anti-NRA blowhards have been doing is, well, just blowing hard. Just as they will shortly after I post this.

Comments

  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    Run, fox, run.
    You still cannot run fast enough to outdistance the nra dismal record of gun control and cooperation with the government.

    But then...you don't really WANT to distance yourself from NICs checks, and filling out forms...DO you, fox.

    Oh..by the way. The Heller case was a net LOSS of gun Rights..not a gain.
    Naturally, as a gun controller..you do not see it that way...
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Did anyone hear something.?.?
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Your attempts to keep away sooth-sayers, simply because you pre-demonize them, in no way means squat to me; much like you mean to me, squat.

    How many years have you been on the NRA payroll fox and what, exactly, is your position with those quislings?

    Actually, I find you personally disgusting. I mean that, really.[:)]
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    A sly fox, sneaking thru the grass.

    At least...he thinks he is.

    More like a snake...hissing sweet seduction of the benefits of government controls on citizens Rights...
  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,806
    edited November -1
    Can someone please translate TR's lawyer talk into plain English for me?
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mrseatle
    Can someone please translate TR's lawyer talk into plain English for me?


    You might try for a translation at the NRA-ILA. That is likely where he gets his arguments and likely where his Dad works. He must pick up on the after-dinner conversations at home, then regurgitate them here.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,127 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The NRA fought against bringing the Heller case to trial, but took credit for its miserable outcome. They also supported the travesty of Thune-Vitter.

    Incorporation of the letter of 'Heller' to the States will be another step backward, though the simpler amongst us will call it victory.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    Simply put, the Heller decision said that there was indeed an `individual right to bear arms..subject to reasonable restrictions'.
    The nra is trying to force states to accept this weird, twisted version of `shall not be infringed'.

    The nra and foxes of this world have been popping Champaign corks ever since the decision ..for their version of gun control has been rewarded.

    Such sad twisted little fearful men.
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 37,961 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    Did anyone hear something.?.?
    I heard an obnoxious sound and smelt sumthin' foul.
  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    it496 (or whatever your name is) regarding your reply on the politics forum in relation to my post. Since you are a "peace officer" (not good enough to be a real cop??) I would think that you at the very least would be a good judge of people. Sadly, you have seriously misjudged me. You appear to believe that I give a rat's * what you and your other yellow * think of me; or what you have to say to/about me.

    Time to take out the trash.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tr fox
    it496 (or whatever your name is) regarding your reply on the politics forum in relation to my post. Since you are a "peace officer" (not good enough to be a real cop??) I would think that you at the very least would be a good judge of people. Sadly, you have seriously misjudged me. You appear to believe that I give a rat's * what you and your other yellow * think of me; or what you have to say to/about me.

    Time to take out the trash.
    You care.[:)]

    You seethe.[:)]

    You fume.[:)]

    You try.[:)]

    You fail. [:)]

    You suck.[:)]
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 37,961 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    It was out, but ya came back.
  • MaxOHMSMaxOHMS Member Posts: 14,715
    edited November -1
    This guy has posted over 12,000 times and not yet learned how to read.

    UNBELIEVABLE
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shootertutor
    This guy has posted over 12,000 times and not yet learned how to read.

    UNBELIEVABLE
    Correctamundo.

    He always does marginally fine until he gets to the part that says "Shall Not Be Infringed".

    There, he chokes, every time.
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    The trfoxes of this world, and the nra that they love, had it their own way since the 30's. Only in the last few years has there been a backlash...and the weight of their sell-out finally grew large enough to become apparant to any that care to examine the issue.

    Understandably, they are upset. Gun controllers all, they see their agenda exposed for the rotten corrupted path that it is.

    One would feel sad for them...if it wern't for the fact that they have sold out America and the Bill of Rights.
    History will view them as conquering heros...if the Socialists/Fascists win....
    and the damnable traitors they are, if those that love the Constitution win.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    "blowhards" 14............NRA quislings (0) zero, zip, nothing.

    Better tell Wayne and Chris that it ain't working, again.[:)]
  • john wjohn w Member Posts: 4,104
    edited November -1
    This really pisses me off!. You guys who knock the NRA every chance you get. Just where in the HELL do you think us gunowners would be today if the NRA had not been running buffer for us all these years. Sure they are not perfect and sometimes they have to compromise to save in other areas and they do always BEG for money but if you do not want to give nobody forces you to. WAKE UP. None of the other tag alongs could do what the NRA has done for us and if not for the NRA we would not enjoy the freedoms we have today. STUPID * every one of you who knock the NRA! WAKE UP![:(!]
  • dfletcherdfletcher Member Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So what do the anti NRA'ers do to fight gun control? And by that I mean aside from voting for progun types and not voting for antigun politicians. Have they formed a group that can do better than the NRA? Knock on doors, spread the word on their own?

    Not meaning to be a smartass and I ask it genuinely to have folks educate me a bit as to what else is out there, but other than saying "NRA stinks" what's the contribution?
  • minitruck83minitruck83 Member Posts: 5,369
    edited November -1
    "None of the other tag alongs could do what the NRA has done for us and if not for the NRA we would not enjoy the freedoms we have today."



    This is very true!




















    We might be enjoying an actual freedom without gooberment interference, had the NRA stayed with their training programs, and out of the political arena, where they rapidly became infected by the parasitic entity's that reside at those levels, and joined them in the destruction of our rights!!


    http://tinyurl.com/lnytet



    BTW ya lost the little gal that tried to sign me up over the phone last week, after listening to a bit of TRUTH, she defected... to the JPFO ! [:D]
  • Deadred707Deadred707 Member Posts: 168 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by john w
    This really pisses me off!. You guys who knock the NRA every chance you get. Just where in the HELL do you think us gunowners would be today if the NRA had not been running buffer for us all these years. Sure they are not perfect and sometimes they have to compromise to save in other areas and they do always BEG for money but if you do not want to give nobody forces you to. WAKE UP. None of the other tag alongs could do what the NRA has done for us and if not for the NRA we would not enjoy the freedoms we have today. STUPID * every one of you who knock the NRA! WAKE UP![:(!]


    [?][:(] Your view of freedom must come form where the sun dont shine.
  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 23,823 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by john w
    This really pisses me off!. You guys who knock the NRA every chance you get. Just where in the HELL do you think us gunowners would be today if the NRA had not been running buffer for us all these years. Sure they are not perfect and sometimes they have to compromise to save in other areas and they do always BEG for money but if you do not want to give nobody forces you to. WAKE UP. None of the other tag alongs could do what the NRA has done for us and if not for the NRA we would not enjoy the freedoms we have today. STUPID * every one of you who knock the NRA! WAKE UP![:(!]

    Compromise? You gotta be pooptin' me.[xx(]
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 25,750
    edited November -1
    The same ones (screwball, light496) are posting the same nothing three or four times. Boys, it's no crime that you can't afford the NRA dues at this time. Obama is doing all he can to put someone's money in your pockets since you helped him by voting for Ron Paul.[:p][;)]






    But the anti-NRA talkers are doing something too. Thankfully, talk is cheap enough for them. [xx(]
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
    So what do the anti NRA'ers do to fight gun control? And by that I mean aside from voting for progun types and not voting for antigun politicians. Have they formed a group that can do better than the NRA? Knock on doors, spread the word on their own?

    Not meaning to be a smartass and I ask it genuinely to have folks educate me a bit as to what else is out there, but other than saying "NRA stinks" what's the contribution?
    I personally am doing plenty!

    I am the SC State Coordinator for the 2nd Amendment March (www.secondamendmentmarch.com). I do work with alot of Pro-NRA people but am not shy about the fact that I am not a NRA supporter (I also make it known why I am not a NRA supporter and people I have met tend to understand my feelings on the subject). I am donateing aprox. 30 hours per week towards this and have several hundred dollars of my money put into it as well.

    I also have joined the GOA and the South Carolina Grass Roots Org. (http://www.scfirearms.org/) who both take a much more no compromise view of the 2nd.

    There are plenty of things that a person can do to support the 2nd that does make a difference without supporting the NRA.

    And as several on here have said in the past, the NRA does some good things as far as for kids and teaching but they will not ever have my support untill they either start supporting the 2nd as it was written or get out of politics!
  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    why i dont like the nra, by bob ski'

    its not about rifles anymore.

    thank you.

    have a nice day.

    [:I]
    Retired Naval Aviation
    Former Member U.S. Navy Shooting Team
    Former NSSA All American
    Navy Distinguished Pistol Shot
    MO, CT, VA.
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    The same ones (screwball, light496) are posting the same nothing three or four times. Boys, it's no crime that you can't afford the NRA dues at this time. Obama is doing all he can to put someone's money in your pockets since you I helped him by voting for Ron Paul.[:p]John McSwine[;)]

    There, fixed it for the pea-brain.
  • wanted manwanted man Member Posts: 3,276
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tr fox
    Recently, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals decision in the case of the NRA vs Chicago ruled that the Heller decision making the 2nd Amendment an individual right, does not apply to states and gun rights.

    (Note: this lawsuit, trying to prove that the Heller decision does make the second amendment apply to individuals and gun rights, and does force the states to recognize that right, was filed only and solely because of the time, money and effort of the NRA.)

    In a competing case, in the 9th circuit court it was ruled that in the case of Nordyke vs King that the 2A does apply to the states.

    So, since we have two conflicting decisions from two different circuit courts, this will probably end up going to the US Supreme Court. The NRA and gun owners like myself will be providing what help we can to make the supreme court hear this case and to decide in the favor of gun owners.

    This is what the NRA and other gun owners like myself have been doing. In the meantime, what the anti-NRA blowhards have been doing is, well, just blowing hard. Just as they will shortly after I post this.



    Blah, blah, blah..........ad nauseum[:p][:p][:p]

    Take your NRA propaganda and stuff it up yer *! I'll NOT support ANY organization that bargains away my RIGHTS, period! We all KNOW what the NRA is up to and it's called self-preservation, in the name of profit (for the officers of the org.) and disguises itself as a protector of the Constitution! MAKES ME SICK!!


    TR, I was wondering about you the other day, sorry we had to meet up this way.............
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    The plain truth is, if you support NRA, you might just as well support Brady Campaign. In spite of the propaganda that claims they are on opposite sides. What a joke.

    When will you NRA idiots figure out the definition of "right". The mere existance of ANY of these orgs, indicates belief that it is a privelege. I suppose that fact sails right over your heads.
    A "right" is retained in ONLY one way, NOT by hiring some dumb * corrupt group to pretend they will do it for you, no, only by exercising a "right" can it be held out of reach of the criminals known as CONgress. Too late, huh? That's what laziness secures for you. Our "lords and masters" are the direct result of laziness. They counted on it, and we didn't let them down.
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    BTW tory fox, the NRA tried to block Heller for fear that it would put them out of business if the scotus actually adhered to the Constitution. Silly huh? Now, the supposed "guardians" of the Constitution have proven once and for all, that they too are unworthy of their position and authority.

    To argue over the silly useless NRA is actually quite wasteful of time. We have big fish to fry, but instead we do....this. Exactly what they want us to do......

    go figure.
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tr fox
    it496 (or whatever your name is) regarding your reply on the politics forum in relation to my post. Since you are a "peace officer" (not good enough to be a real cop??)




    Your assertion is completely invalid to begin with, but coming from you,(a mall cop) even this is a shock. Definition of "blowhard", eh?
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,561 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    May I be so bold to ask what have you done to keep our guns, just spout off. Enough said at least they are trying, How many of you have done anything about the Obama Health care just sit on your butts and *. Been to a tea party, signed petitions , visited you elected offices on any of the above topics probably not. I do see Kevin trying to do something. How many here have been to their state Capital to error your grievances not many I bet.

    Does the staff at your congressional office in DC know you by name or not, before you put down some org that is trying do your job first.
  • wanted manwanted man Member Posts: 3,276
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fshfndr
    May I be so bold to ask what have you done to keep our guns, just spout off. Enough said at least they are trying, How many of you have done anything about the Obama Health care just sit on your butts and *. Been to a tea party, signed petitions , visited you elected offices on any of the above topics probably not. I do see Kevin trying to do something. How many here have been to their state Capital to error your grievances not many I bet.

    Does the staff at your congressional office in DC know you by name or not, before you put down some org that is trying do your job first.


    You make *-u-mptions and bets concerning things/people you know very little about, at least where I'm concerned. I can't tell you the number of letters/faxes I send in a given month to our "elected officials" reminding them of my opinions regarding 2A, immigration, health care, etc.
  • RtWngExtrmstRtWngExtrmst Member Posts: 7,456
    edited November -1
    Of course the US congress, as well as many state legislatures, are the avowed enemy of the people. The stupid people consistantly vote for * who can't wait to screw the people that voted for them. What do the people do? They reelect the *. The people say "all the other * are bad, but my * is good". I've heard people on this forum say essentially that.

    Everybody that is paying attention agrees that the people have to fight against the corrupt slime in office and the bureaucrats. But there is not so much agreement about the best way to fight them.

    The fundamental problem is there aren't enough people paying attention. The corrupt scum * politicians will continue to win until there are enough paying attention. One thing is for sure, gun rights advocates shouldn't be fighting each other.
  • elect1mikeelect1mike Member Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The bottom line is the NRA is a sell out has been for a long time. They are not the best of whats out there to defend the rights of gun owners and the part I hate the most is they are the most money hungry of any gun group I have ever seen. It is a shame when they preach they are the gun owners friend and the bottom line is in fact they want to line there pockets. Shame on them.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Keep it civil folks...
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