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Typical College Professors

RunForestRunForest Member Posts: 494 ✭✭✭
edited February 2007 in General Discussion
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070227/ts_nm/usa_cuba_spies_dc

MIAMI (Reuters) - A Cuban-American couple who worked at a Florida university were sentenced on Tuesday to prison terms for funneling information about Miami's Cuban exiles to the Havana government.
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    KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would be happy if Castro sent some hitmen over to cap the "exiles".
    Some found their way to Albuquerque, where my family used to live. We got sooo sick of hearing about the Cubans invloved with drugs and things, it is not even funny
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    DocDoc Member Posts: 13,899 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't believe the typical college professor is a spy...
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    kristovkristov Member Posts: 6,633
    edited November -1
    Typical [?] My wife is an associate professor of European History so if Mrs. K has a side job as a spy I want my share of the extra cash she must be briging in.
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    Aspen79seAspen79se Member Posts: 4,707
    edited November -1
    College professors, spies? Bwhahahahahah.

    You haven't been to college, have you?
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by SaxonPig
    I don't believe the typical college professor is a spy...


    No...but they are EXTREMELY liberal and most are pushing a socialistic adgenda.
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    RunForestRunForest Member Posts: 494 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    kinda like the professor in florida who just "didnt like isreal" but actually was funneling money to islamic terrorits groups. most college professors are enemies of america.
    i had a college professor who thought america was evil for bombing japan and i told him he better watch himself if he wanted to say things like that
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    mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kristov
    Typical [?] My wife is an associate professor of European History so if Mrs. K has a side job as a spy I want my share of the extra cash she must be briging in.


    the pay is... They don't murder your family. Third World Dictators don't pay, they extort.
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    kristovkristov Member Posts: 6,633
    edited November -1
    I'll settle for a case of Havana Club run every month [:p].
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    KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mrseatle
    quote:Originally posted by kristov
    Typical [?] My wife is an associate professor of European History so if Mrs. K has a side job as a spy I want my share of the extra cash she must be briging in.


    the pay is... They don't murder your family. Third World Dictators don't pay, they extort.


    I would dare them to try, police would have a mystery as to the identities of the three dead f***heads in my house [;)]
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    nemesisenforcernemesisenforcer Member Posts: 10,513 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by SaxonPig
    I don't believe the typical college professor is a spy...


    only because they haven't been given the opportunity.
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    stanmanstanman Member Posts: 3,052
    edited November -1
    quote:I don't believe the typical college professor is a spy...
    I'm SURE they're not!
    The ones I've met just plain weren't smart enough to be anything but completely transparent.
    Educated? ..... Sure!
    Intelligent? ...... Not even close!
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    spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,724 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    my opinion is that once a "college professor" achieves that economically secure position in life known as tenure, he or she can become a veritable fount of wisdom on whatever personal or political agenda they wish to espouse without any oversight or repercussion....IE....the tenured coneheads at rutgers that were fronting the plan to remove all agriculture from western kansas & eastern colorado & return it to the "buffalo commons"...ever notice that such people always have big plans for some property other than their own turf...why not remove all the subdivisions & shoppping malls from new jersey, plant it back to trees & reinstall many of the original indian tribes?????
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    DocDoc Member Posts: 13,899 ✭✭✭
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    It is true that a majority of educators tend to be Liberal, but certainly not all. I'm not Liberal, and many of the people I work with are very Conservative.

    Some institutions are known for Leftist activities, like UC Berkley, while others are more Right Wing, like any college in Utah (except the president of the U of U who is sort of an idiot).

    As for college professors being stupid, well, that's the "blue collar elitism" at work. People with advanced degrees are not stupid. They are usually opinionated, and you may disagree with them, but that doesn't make them stupid. Also note that someone with a Ph.D. is an expert in a narrow area, their pareticular field of study. So of course they may not know much about all things in general. Again, this doesn't make them stupid, just uninformed on matters outside their field of interest.
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    Warpig883Warpig883 Member Posts: 6,459
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    quote:Originally posted by SaxonPig
    I don't believe the typical college professor is a spy...


    No...but they are EXTREMELY liberal and most are pushing a socialistic adgenda.



    LMAO
    If you went to college and got this opinion then your college was nothing like the ones around here. Many of the professors I know are conservative gun owners and hunters.
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    blogdog37blogdog37 Member Posts: 372 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Poor opinions of College professor's has to do with the field's they teach. I respect the one's who have PHD's, & LLB's because they aren't easy. Looking back on college, I didn't learn much, because, I stayed under the radar gun, choose the easiest field for me, my main interest was the degree, not the knowledge.
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    buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by SaxonPig
    As for college professors being stupid, well, that's the "blue collar elitism" at work. People with advanced degrees are not stupid. They are usually opinionated, and you may disagree with them, but that doesn't make them stupid. Also note that someone with a Ph.D. is an expert in a narrow area, their pareticular field of study. So of course they may not know much about all things in general. Again, this doesn't make them stupid, just uninformed on matters outside their field of interest....that makes them stupid.
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    WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 16,846 ✭✭✭✭
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    quote:ECC
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    Posted - 02/27/2007 : 10:36:34 PM

    quote:
    Originally posted by SaxonPig

    I don't believe the typical college professor is a spy...



    No...but they are EXTREMELY liberal and most are pushing a socialistic adgenda.


    I hear this comment all the time, and I can honestly say that I dont' think I have ever had a single liberal professor that I have been able to identify. The class I'm currently in the book was clearly written by a pair of freedom hating commies, but I really don't think I have had a single un-american instructor.

    I guess it all depends on the schools atmosphere, believe it or not there are still a few schools focused on academics not sports.
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    DocDoc Member Posts: 13,899 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    bushmaster- Stupid is unintelligent. Being uninformed isn't stupid it's ignorant, which means uninformed.

    I don't know squat about about nuclear physics. Does that make me stupid? No, it means I am uninformed on the subject.
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    oldgunneroldgunner Member Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If college professors are stupid, then reverse logic tells me illiterates must be genuiuses..correct?
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    buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
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    listen to some of the faculty from princeton or harvard talk sometime. whenever you hear it, on the news for example. they have no common sense whatsoever!! all the ones I've heard, and most of the ones from anywhere else, it's obvious they're out of touch with reality.

    YES, anybody from the 'hood has 10x the common sense they'll never have, 20 times the personality, and even though they haven't "accomplished" what you would call any kind of accomplishment (car/house/job/money/school) I've met a few people that lived more out of life before age 25 than most people would in a lifetime, let alone a professor type who spent the entire first half of their life in the back room with their nose in a book.

    those 'overeducated' types have poor money managament skills, little sense of responsibility, few social skills, little or no mechanical skills, and are usually completely misdirected regarding what is good in life and how to get it.

    aside from their specialization, they're about useless.

    that kind of stupid.
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    RunForestRunForest Member Posts: 494 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    85% of college professors polled in 2000 and 2004 showed they voted for Gore and Kerry. 90% of Ivy leauge professors described themselves as liberal.
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    DocDoc Member Posts: 13,899 ✭✭✭
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    I think that 85% figure may be a little inflated. Most educators are Liberal, I already conceeded that point, but I would question 85%. The 90% at Ivy League colleges wouldn't surprise me. But being a Democrat or a Liberal doesn't make you a spy.
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    WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 16,846 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Some of you guys have absolutely missed the point. It's almost alarming. To say that the highly educated have no personalities, or have never lived, says to me that you have not spent much time around alot of college professors. If that's the case, you may have chosen a school for the wrong reasons.

    Some of my professors (I will provide referencs if you like) have had some pretty colorful backgrounds

    Example #1 PHD in physics, PHD in Mathematics.

    High school drop out, Navy Fleet Marine Force corpsmen, eventually commissioned, 22 years total service, retired as an 0-4.

    Example #2 J.D. Harvard Law

    Retired 0-6 pilot for a number of different aircraft throughout his career, very fun, very smart person.

    Example #3 Masters of Aerospace Science, Aviation Safety, Master of Aerospace Science, Space Studies- Embry-Riddle.

    High school diploma, truck driver, Air force air traffic controller, commissioned F-15 eagle pilot (2 time combat veteran), Retired 0-4, currently also flies as a civilian instructor for military aircraft.

    Example #4 PHD (Don't recall what) Master of Nuclear engineering, Graduate Naval Acadamy 1960-something)

    Former Commanding Officer U.S.S. Alabama, 30+ years military service, Maybe the most intelligent person I have ever met.



    My list could go on, but I think this should get the point across, education doesn't make you all knowing, but it doesn't automatically mean you've never done anything but sat in a room reading books your entire life.
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    rossowmnrossowmn Member Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank you, Saxon Pig and others who stick up for us po' members of a minority (i.e., conservative professors). I will bite my tongue and try not to say more about some of the remarks people have been knocking around.[;)]
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    WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 16,846 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    To the top.
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    spanielsellsspanielsells Member Posts: 12,498
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Warpig883
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    quote:Originally posted by SaxonPig
    I don't believe the typical college professor is a spy...


    No...but they are EXTREMELY liberal and most are pushing a socialistic adgenda.



    LMAO
    If you went to college and got this opinion then your college was nothing like the ones around here. Many of the professors I know are conservative gun owners and hunters.
    I went to the University of Wisconsin. Madison makes any other "liberal" place in this country, including Boulder and San Francisco look like the cloakroom for the Conservative Caucus in Congress.

    I'm currently attending a private university here in Colorado. The professors tend to be moderate to slightly conservative.

    The University of Colorado-Boulder is the home to Ward Churchill, and I'll bet you dollars to donuts that his liberal viewpoint is fairly typical amongst his peers.
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    WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 16,846 ✭✭✭✭
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    spanielsells- To me, it is sort of simple, find somewhere else to go to school, if the entire staff is nothing but commies.
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    spanielsellsspanielsells Member Posts: 12,498
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Dave W.
    spanielsells- To me, it is sort of simple, find somewhere else to go to school, if the entire staff is nothing but commies.
    I don't have that problem currently. My school is moderate to conservative.

    At 18, I actually relished the idea of going to a liberal bastion. I spent four years enjoying going against the grain and pi$$ing off the liberals.

    Really, there's entertainment value to going to a liberal school when you're a staunch conservative. Plenty of it, in fact.

    And, FWIW, I came out of there MORE conservative than when I went in.
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    DocDoc Member Posts: 13,899 ✭✭✭
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    buschmaster- What you seem to be saying is that because you disagree with those Liberal academics they are stupid. That's your perception and you are welcome to it but it's not factually correct.
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    Ba SardoBa Sardo Member Posts: 562 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by RunForest
    i had a college professor who thought america was evil for bombing japan and i told him he better watch himself if he wanted to say things like that


    Yeah, go ahead and threaten a man for expressing an opinion.

    Mighty Taliban of ya, RunForest.


    This is America and there's a thing called free speech. If you disagreed, you ought to have told him why he was wrong (and yes, he was) but to tell him he'd "better watch himself" is cowardice at best.
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Dave W.
    To the top.



    ...no offense intended to the few who are conservative[:)]
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