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denied gun purchase
chaosrob
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Friend of mine purchased a ar pistol. He was delayed (like he always is), and told to come pick it up after 5 days.
He waied his 5 days, picked it up and all was good. He received a call from the gunshop 4 days later telling him that he was denied, and the fbi,and atf had called for his address. He just took it back to the gunshop for them to old until he can ge this straight.
It seems like with anything to do with the gov, getting information is like pulling teeth. He contacted the fb1 who said they are sending out paperwork for him to send back for the reason wy he was denied, and may need his prints.
The guy has no felonies, no domestic violence, history of mental illness, restraining orders etc. He owns several firearms already, this doesn't make any sense. I was just wondering if anyone on the board had something like this happen to them, or someone they know. Looking for experience here as I am baffled. It has to be a mistake on their end, but it seems fixing it will be a uphill batle
He waied his 5 days, picked it up and all was good. He received a call from the gunshop 4 days later telling him that he was denied, and the fbi,and atf had called for his address. He just took it back to the gunshop for them to old until he can ge this straight.
It seems like with anything to do with the gov, getting information is like pulling teeth. He contacted the fb1 who said they are sending out paperwork for him to send back for the reason wy he was denied, and may need his prints.
The guy has no felonies, no domestic violence, history of mental illness, restraining orders etc. He owns several firearms already, this doesn't make any sense. I was just wondering if anyone on the board had something like this happen to them, or someone they know. Looking for experience here as I am baffled. It has to be a mistake on their end, but it seems fixing it will be a uphill batle
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Lance
I've had cops denied! He will get it worked out. Somebody has the same name or other info CLOSE to his and they will deny it.
Lance
that is what I figure, but the funny thing is he just bought a pistol 2 weeks ago without issue (except the 5 day wait he has every time he purchases)
Or maybe the purchase 2 weeks ago flagged his name,for a (yet) unrevealable reason.
Allen
I bought a gun on a monday and then next monday got held up on another purchase , depends on who is looking up the information.. We get a lot of "conditionals" here..[:(]
why a 5 day waiting period? people that have been delayed here only hahe to waite 3 business days
no idea. Everytime I have seen someone delayed in Missouri it has always been for 5 days
Could be someone stole his Identity. Might want him to run a credit check on himself to see what credit cards he has out there.
great input, thank you.
In florida on a "Conditional" there is 5 days wait , if the LEA (law enforcement Agency) doesnt reply withing that 5 days the transaction goes through..A flat "Denial" requires a bunch of BS to straighten out..
that is something that is odd. It was several days after the 5 day waiting period was over before they contactedthe store back and said he was denied
I guess anything is possible though.
Picked up 2 in the past 2 weeks.
Then I would have tried to figure out why I was denied, for future purchases.
I'm wondering why he returned the AR to the gun shop. I would have just told them to 'pack fudge'.
Then I would have tried to figure out why I was denied, for future purchases.
possibly because the fbi/atf had called to get his address. do you think they wanted that info to mail him a christmas card???
something doesn't add up. he was approved (must have been to p/u the gun) and then he's denied?!
could it be he's approved but the FBI (?) wants to do a more in depth backgroung check on him?
gotta agree with Don on this one, I wouldnt have surrendered the gun unless an agent came to my door asking for it!
JMHO
tom
I have never given my SSN on the form, it is not required read the fine print its optional.
A SSN may not be required, but if you have a sleezebag with the same name(as I do) the best thing to do is put it on the form .
I know this from experience .
I have to go with the comment that some criminal has a name similar to the purchaser.
I'm wondering why he returned the AR to the gun shop. I would have just told them to 'pack fudge'.
Then I would have tried to figure out why I was denied, for future purchases.
"possibly because the fbi/atf had called to get his address. do you think they wanted that info to mail him a christmas card???"
Edited: The quote thingy is screwy. It didn't include the above.
My point exactly. If they visit me at my house, they will have to explain the denial. I will welcome them in. If they arrest me, I sue for false arrest. Either way, I get the issue cleared up sooner, rather than later.
By returning the AR, I am left wondering if this guy really has something to hide.
quote:Originally posted by DBMJR1
I'm wondering why he returned the AR to the gun shop. I would have just told them to 'pack fudge'.
Then I would have tried to figure out why I was denied, for future purchases.
"possibly because the fbi/atf had called to get his address. do you think they wanted that info to mail him a christmas card???"
Edited: The quote thingy is screwy. It didn't include the above.
My point exactly. If they visit me at my house, they will have to explain the denial. I will welcome them in. If they arrest me, I sue for false arrest. Either way, I get the issue cleared up sooner, rather than later.
By returning the AR, I am left wondering if this guy really has something to hide.
The other issue here is that he currently owns other firearms. He was denied the right to purchase which means he does not have the right to own what he currently has possession of. If they came to his house to retrieve the ar they would have confiscated all his other firearms as well. Even though we know it is a mistake, do you really want feds pawing over everything you own, and maybe "losing" something?
Maybe the dealer just wanted that gun back so he could sell it at a higher cost to someone else. [:0]
nah he is a long time friend, and I spend way too much money there for him to try something like that. Regardless I really don't think the fbi and atf would play that game for him to make a few extra bucks
Once I was delayed at a gun show. The dealer waited a couple of hours and ran it again and I was able to go back and buy it.
Finally I obtained a Georgia Firearms License to get by the NICS check.
And, don't even bother with that tired old nothing to hide bs.
Is it possible the gun shop misspelled his name?
Or maybe the purchase 2 weeks ago flagged his name,for a (yet) unrevealable reason.
Allen
i argued, and argued with the irs once over a 9,500 dollar tax bill once, and it turned out to be the wrong person same name, and those clowns use ss#'s
quote:Originally posted by WinM70
I have never given my SSN on the form, it is not required read the fine print its optional.
A SSN may not be required, but if you have a sleezebag with the same name(as I do) the best thing to do is put it on the form .
I know this from experience .
I put my SSN on the form every time and I also get delayed every time.
If you have a concealed weapons permit, they already have your prints so I doubt they would go through this trouble just to get your prints.
I have to go with the comment that some criminal has a name similar to the purchaser.
not true
You don't have to have your fingerprints taken to get a concealed weapons permit.
The only time I was ever delaed was the day after I recieved my CCW.