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.22LR Rifle

Slow_HandSlow_Hand Member Posts: 2,835
edited May 2006 in General Discussion
I've never owned a .22LR rifle but I shot my share of them at carnivals, feasts, fairs, etc. over the years. I'm not into hunting or competitive shooting but I do enjoy plinking out at the range. Can anyone recommend a simple, straightforward, decent quality and affordable .22LR rifle that's very easy to maintain, clean, service, load, etc.? One that doesn't balk at inexpensive ammo? I'm not into scopes, accessorizing, or customizing. Basically, I want to shoot it right out of the box, with preferrably 10 rounds - or more? - loaded in it at a time and no need for additional accessories. A smaller rifle would probably be more enjoyable to hold and shoot in a walled lane at the range and easier to store/carry for plinking purposes. Much appreciated.
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  • sig232sig232 Member Posts: 8,018
    edited November -1
    Ruger 10/22. Thats the ticket! In my humble opinion. Inexpensive, reliable, and accurate. Very, very fun to shoot.
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Model 60 Marlin, Model 39 Marlin.
  • wundudneewundudnee Member Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You didn't say, Semi auto, pump or bolt, so I would reccomend finding a good used model 69 Winchester. They can be found in very good condition for $250.00-$300.00. The later 69s also had grooved receivers that facilitated mounting a scope easily. They generally come equiped with a 5 shot mag, but 10 shot mags can be found. An excellent shooting classic that will hold or increase it's value.

    I got this grooved match 69 with Lyman peep sights on auction for $275.00.
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  • CubsloverCubslover Member Posts: 18,601 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Marlin Mod 60, cheap, accurate, reliable, eats anything you feed it.
    Half of the lives they tell about me aren't true.
  • rob223rob223 Member Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There are several under a hundred dollars, especially in the used category. The Ruger 10-22 occasionally around the hundred dollar make used, Marlin 60, Savage and Mossberg (I'm not sure of models but Wally World has had them here for about $90.) All decent for plinking, small game and varmits. The 10-22 can always be upgraded down the road it you got the fever, lots of accessories, heavy barrels, you have it. I'm sure there are a few others not mentioned. I just picked up one of those Romanian trainer .22 cal for $50. a couple of weeks ago. I haven't got around to shooting it yet, so can't comment on its quality. Glad to hear if anyone has one of thoses and thier comments.
    Brian
  • zipperzapzipperzap Member Posts: 25,057
    edited November -1
    A good Ruger 10-22 & a Ruger Mk.III Hunter - thats'a ll you'll need![:D]
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,518 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wundudnee
    You didn't say, Semi auto, pump or bolt, so I would reccomend finding a good used model 69 Winchester. They can be found in very good condition for $250.00-$300.00. The later 69s also had grooved receivers that facilitated mounting a scope easily. They generally come equiped with a 5 shot mag, but 10 shot mags can be found. An excellent shooting classic that will hold or increase it's value.

    I got this grooved match 69 with Lyman peep sights on auction for $275.00.
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    I would shoot it well before buying a new .22. Old is good.
  • anderskandersk Member Posts: 3,627 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Plinking ou at the range you say ... easy answer is any .22 lever gun! I'd go with a Winchester Model 9422 or a Marlin 39A ... they never wear out or cause any problems and they are easy to find cheap.

    Happy plinking![:)]
  • MossbergboogieMossbergboogie Member Posts: 12,211
    edited November -1
    A mossberg 44 is a wise choice as well. Come by one for about 150 bucks on action i personally own a mossberg 46 b great shooter.
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:I'm not into scopes, accessorizing, or customizing. Basically, I want to shoot it right out of the box

    So forget the 10/22 that will take another $600 to get right.


    Wundudnee, how come you did not tell me about that 69 Winchester?
  • Slow_HandSlow_Hand Member Posts: 2,835
    edited November -1
    Is there any advantage/disadvantage to the Marlin 60's brass tube feed versus the Ruger 10/22's magazine? Is one type of rifle better or is it a non-issue?
  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I got this Henry at Walmart for $212 out the door ... accurate and feeds everything!

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    Edit -
    It holds 16 rounds of 22LR ... you can also shoot shorts and longs!
    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
  • spryorspryor Member Posts: 9,155
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kimberkid

    I got this Henry at Walmart for $212 out the door ... accurate and feeds everything!




    Edit -
    It holds 16 rounds of 22LR ... you can also shoot shorts and longs!




    That Henry looks like it could have nice wood...or is that some kind of faux finish job?
  • hughbetchahughbetcha Member Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Slow_Hand
    Is there any advantage/disadvantage to the Marlin 60's brass tube feed versus the Ruger 10/22's magazine? Is one type of rifle better or is it a non-issue?


    More people shoot themselves accidently with tube fed .22s than all others combined or "why the marlin 60 is a deathtrap"

    First of all, its easy for the a round to get hung up in the tube if the spring sticks, tube gets too dirty eye. unloaded gun becomes loaded without shooter realizing it.

    Second, a lot of people dont stay clear of the muzzle while they are loading the tube.

    I don't do such dangerous things and I'm extra safe when handling any gun, so these things relative to a tube fed dont really bother me much. I own a marlin 60 and Mod. 39 and I shoot them safely all the time.

    However I do not think i would give a tube fed rifle to a novice until I was certain they had excellent gun handling/safety skills.
  • spanielsellsspanielsells Member Posts: 12,498
    edited November -1
    I've only had my 10/22 for a few weeks, but I've had a lot of fun with it. I found the carbine stock to be a bit short for my liking and went ahead and replaced it with a longer one and it shoots fine.

    I've not modified it in any other way (yet) and I'm very happy with it. It eats the cheapest .22 rimfire ammo just fine (Federal Champion High Velocity) which costs me $9.00 for 550 rounds.

    The great news that I've discovered is, if you need a part, there's a jillion of them out there.
  • anderskandersk Member Posts: 3,627 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've been shooting tube fed lever guns for a l-o-n-g time, I've never heard of anyone getting shot because of a rifle being tube fed! I don't know whether to thank you for the heads up or if you are pulling my leg.

    Tube fed lever guns and tube fed pump rifles have been hear for a long time ... I think they are here to stay!

    Anybody else heard of this?[?][?][?][?]
  • dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 32,038 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by andersk
    I've been shooting tube fed lever guns for a l-o-n-g time, I've never heard of anyone getting shot because of a rifle being tube fed! I don't know whether to thank you for the heads up or if you are pulling my leg.

    Tube fed lever guns and tube fed pump rifles have been hear for a long time ... I think they are here to stay!

    Anybody else heard of this?[?][?][?][?]


    That was just Hugh, he has a funny way of lubing the tubes. Don
  • jimkanejimkane Member Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Marlin Model 60. Or a nice pink Crickett, such as this one:

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=49027188

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    actually I got one of those for a lady friend of mine (mostly as a joke) but its a nice little rifle.
  • WinM70WinM70 Member Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ve a Ruger 10/22 and a Marlin Model 60, enjoy them both very much.
    Marlin tube holds 14, Ruger mag holds 10.
    My favorite is the Ruger, never had a bit of trouble with it shoots excellent didn't have to spend a dime as others will have you believe to make it shoot.
  • woodshermitwoodshermit Member Posts: 2,589
    edited November -1
    Never heard of 22LR being used in galleries or fairs, but, nevermind. Marlin 39A, Model 60, Win 9422; all great rifles. Go to a reputable local dealer and handle everything that appeals to you, then make a deal.
  • DaBowMan18DaBowMan18 Member Posts: 2,962
    edited November -1
    marlin-glenfield model 60. Got it. Love it. Shoot it.

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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Tube magazines hold a lot more cartridges than the little 10/22 magazines which hold 10.

    I have been shooting tube fed .22s since I was a beginner in the late 50's and have not yet managed to miss a cartridge or shoot myself. I must be as safe with my as my buddy Hugh is with his.

    Is this REALLY a problem?
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A bolt gun will allow you more deliberate shooting. The 10-22 can shoot 5,000 rounds without cleaning and just keep going. The 10-22 can be modified to be a top performing shooter.

    I have seen a round get stuck in the tube of a lever gun after many cycles to prove it was empty. Instead it proved there was one round left. It went through the floor. I hate when that happens.
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    Ruger 10/22. the "10" means the factory mag. holds 10 rounds.I have 50 round mags that perform flawlessly in my Ruger, and have for many years .RUGER 10/22!!! That's what you need to have,from there build on your .22 collection.. My .02.
    Jeff
  • jabronij3jabronij3 Member Posts: 4,686
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by He Dog
    I'm not into scopes, accessorizing, or customizing. Basically, I want to shoot it right out of the box

    So forget the 10/22 that will take another $600 to get right.
    apparently you do not know how to use one never had any problems unless you do not use common sense you know clean every now and then and don't overheat or foul the barrell of course to some casual plinking means to see if you can shoot 500 rounds in 30 min[^][:0]
  • MossbergboogieMossbergboogie Member Posts: 12,211
    edited November -1
    Personaly i would go with a bolt for match shooting.. Or even a lever . I find that i shoot considerably better with a bolt but maybe thats just me
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    I dunno what happened to your 10/22,but mine shhts great with iron sights,although i prefer a scope
    Jeff
  • beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    To me, this is a no-brainer. Used Marlin 60s in great shape can be had for $75. You can't even buy a good air-rifle for that money. These guns are rugged, reliable, and pretty darn accurate, and the investment is so low, you basically can't go wrong with one.

    Apart from excellent reliability, one advantage of the tube feed, is that you can get high capacity but yet be exempt from state "high cap" rules. (This is an issue in MA). Most "no high cap" states exempt tube fed .22s specifically, or indirectly because tube feeds are not "detachable" magazines. It doesn't apply to the Marlin 60, but in general tube feeds will let you load .22 shorts and longs in addition to LRs, and in any order and the gun will still function.

    With respect to Hugh's comment about tube fed .22s causing the most self-shootings, that's probably because tube fed .22 rifles are literally the most popular guns in the USA. So OF COURSE being far and away the most popular gun in the USA, and the one being in the hands of the most inexperienced shooters, these are going to be related to the most accidents.

    That's a statistical fluke not unlike saying that Budweiser beer is responsible for the most drunk-driving incidents.

    If the Model 60s tube fed design were inherently dangerous that would have become apparent in the last 45 years after literally 11,000,000 Marlin 60s rolled off the assembly line!
  • hughbetchahughbetcha Member Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Beantown is right, tube fed .22s are very popular and that could account for them being involved in more accidents and as a matter of fact I'm drinking budweiser right now and probably a meanace to society.

    The possibility of a round getting hung up in the tube is not fantasy however, it has happened and its something that was addressed by many gunmakers when they put a red mark on the follower so it would be easy to spot the follower and to confirm the rifle was unloaded.

    As for pointing the rifle at yourself when loading it. I have no trouble staying clear of the muzzle, but I've seen a lot of people point the muzzle at themselves or put their hand over the muzzle while they are loading tube fed rifles.

    There is no doubt that guns such as bolt actions and clip fed etc. do not have these exact same problems, they can all be loaded from rear while shooting prone or from a rest etc. I'm not saying the tube fed guns are unsafe, just that you have to be aware of any and all characteristics of your weapon that might prove critical in maintaining safety, espeically if you are teaching someone else.
  • MossbergboogieMossbergboogie Member Posts: 12,211
    edited November -1
    Whats the big hype about the Marlin 60 my uncle has one what a peice. cant shoot a full brick without the damn thing jammer 400 times ...... NOW the bolt on the other had is much cleaner. and doesnt much matter if its dirty or not. Tube fed is definatly the way to go. If you shoot your self loading one you deserve a darwin award.
  • RustyBonesRustyBones Member Posts: 4,956
    edited November -1
    chech out the taurus 62 + 63

    cheap and reliable and very fun

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    Both also break down for easy stoage and transport. Ive owned both for a while now and dont really have anything negative to say about them.
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    If what you're looking for is a reliable,inexpencive .22lr.A Marlin M60 isn't a bad way to go.If you're looking for a reliable,inexpencive,.22Lr
    that can be customized and further acurised in literaly thousands of configurisations.And be done very economicaly. I can think of no other rifle of any kind that could do that as well as the Ruger 10/22.
    Jeff
  • third_shot_flyerthird_shot_flyer Member Posts: 69 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't know about your uncle's Marlin and his "jammer" problem, but I have a Marlin 60 that I carry in my truck for coyote and armadillo emergencies. It may have been cleaned once a few years ago, but I can't really remember. I do know that I have put many many rounds through it with nary a jam. They're tough little guns, and mine is a great shooter.
  • anderskandersk Member Posts: 3,627 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Speaking of jams ... I've had semi-autos that jam and mis-fire way too often, but I have NEVER had a lever gun do either (and I must admit that I only occasionally clean my lever guns).

    My experience with semi-autos is with old ones that probably were worn out and/or desperately in need of major stripping and cleaning. Maybe that contributes to my enjoyment of lever guns![:D][:D]
  • One shotOne shot Member Posts: 1,027
    edited November -1
    Ruger 10/22. It will far ourlast any Marlin model 60 on the market.
  • anderskandersk Member Posts: 3,627 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Seeing the .22 pump reminded me of a friends Winchester .22 pump when I was a kid. He could slam fire it any time he wanted and we thought that was pretty cool. Now, I;m not so sure it is cool OR safe. My old Model 12 Winchester would do the same thing ... and a 3" magnum discharge ... when you were not expecting it, was not laughing matter! It was one reason I decided to sell that gun. No regrets!
  • RustyBonesRustyBones Member Posts: 4,956
    edited November -1
    The Taurus guns are copies of the winchester, pretty good ones too, only about $500 cheaper. And yeah the pump will slam fire.
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:I'm not saying the tube fed guns are unsafe, just that you have to be aware of any and all characteristics of your weapon that might prove critical in maintaining safety, espeically if you are teaching someone else.

    This is such good sense, it bears repeating!

    I'm not saying the tube fed guns are unsafe, just that you have to be aware of any and all characteristics of your weapon that might prove critical in maintaining safety, espeically if you are teaching someone else.
  • dbain99dbain99 Member Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    10/22 All the way. Great out of the box shooter!(and it only gets better) I have several mods but still remember the good ole days of simplicity. For plinking there is no better place to start(and stay for that matter). Multiple factory mags are a must, although if you want more there is plenty out there for the 10/22 which cant be said about many others.
  • reddnekreddnek Member Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My personal choice right now is my Marlin 39A but I'm thinking hard about a Marlin model 60 saw one in wally world for $124.95
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