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Looking for a job in America!
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John Smith started the day early having set his alarm
clock (MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am. While his coffeepot (MADE IN CHINA) was perking, he shaved with his electric razor (MADE IN HONG KONG ).
He put on a dress shirt (MADE IN SRI LANKA ),designer jeans (MADE IN SINGAPORE ) and tennis shoes (MADE IN KOREA ).
After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet
(MADE IN INDIA ) he sat down with his calculator (MADE IN MEXICO )
to see how much he could spend today. After setting his
watch (MADE IN TAIWAN ) to the radio (MADE IN INDIA )
he got in his car (MADE IN GERMANY ) filled it with GAS
(from Saudi Arabia ) and continued his search for a good paying AMERICAN JOB. The end of yet another discouraging and fruitless day
checking his Computer (Made In Malaysia ),John decided to relax for a while. He put on his sandals (MADE IN BRAZIL )poured himself a glass of wine (MADE IN FRANCE )and turned on his TV (MADE IN INDONESIA), and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA .
clock (MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am. While his coffeepot (MADE IN CHINA) was perking, he shaved with his electric razor (MADE IN HONG KONG ).
He put on a dress shirt (MADE IN SRI LANKA ),designer jeans (MADE IN SINGAPORE ) and tennis shoes (MADE IN KOREA ).
After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet
(MADE IN INDIA ) he sat down with his calculator (MADE IN MEXICO )
to see how much he could spend today. After setting his
watch (MADE IN TAIWAN ) to the radio (MADE IN INDIA )
he got in his car (MADE IN GERMANY ) filled it with GAS
(from Saudi Arabia ) and continued his search for a good paying AMERICAN JOB. The end of yet another discouraging and fruitless day
checking his Computer (Made In Malaysia ),John decided to relax for a while. He put on his sandals (MADE IN BRAZIL )poured himself a glass of wine (MADE IN FRANCE )and turned on his TV (MADE IN INDONESIA), and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA .
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because the unions screwed up everything
WRONG!!!
Many could not speak any english but they sure could work....
Where lies the problem?
Is it their ethnicity, or is it our ethics?
Us Americans better stop being so ethnocentric, and start reconsidering our way of conducting business.
Because all those things can be made much cheaper overseas, than here in this country by overpaid under skilled union labor headed by corrupt union bosses.
....Then allowed to be imported into the USA in a uncontrolled "flood", without appropriate tariffs, or appropriate recriprical access to foreign markets.
The end result is what you said.
Only in America can an unemployed person drive a German car, have a TV, Computer, designer jeans, coffee, a new electric skillet, etc.
We've got the richest poor people in the world and still they complain. There is no right to a job. If you don't have one that's good enough to furnish you with the lifestyle you want then it is incumbent upon you to find something better, even if it means moving or getting more eduction / skills.
He's driving a German car and he can't find a job?
my thoughts exactly.
Actually, if he's driving a German car, he's probably working at a nice job anyway.
I have never seen a good paying non union job. Just looked at one. The guy wouldn't even tell me how much it paid. He said $22-$29, he wouldn't even tell me how much he would pay. Their retirement was crap too. This is a field mechanic for a name brand(fairly)equipment dealer too. I'll stick with my union work. It's been real slow this year, but I can make as much in 7-8 months and have at least 3x better retirement as opposed to working for that turkey for a whole 12 months.
all the people who work for me make over 1200.00 a week. They earn every penney, but I am non-union
I have never seen a good paying non union job.
You are kidding right? I am not union and I make well over $100K a year, get another 10% paid into my 401K every year and 5 weeks time off. I worked one union job, at a large telecomm, and will never work another one. The union bosses are jerks and the union workers lazy, as they know they can get away without doing much, and unions like the teachers' unions are in the pocket of liberal democrats. My wife makes $75K a year as a Registered Nurse and she is not union. My sister makes very decent money and has great benefits as a Paralegal, she is non-union. My brother owns his own non-union hardscaping firm in Pa and pays HIGH SCHOOL kids $16.00 an hour, because he can't even find enough adults who are willing to do manual labor. His foremen make $60K a year and get a company truck, and this is in an area where you can buy a house for $100K.
This is BS. People can't find a good paying job because of poor decisions they have made throughout their lives to not persue an eduction, not to MOVE TO WHERE THE JOBS ARE, choose to join unions instead of making it on their own merits, etc.
Only in America can an unemployed person drive a German car, have a TV, Computer, designer jeans, coffee, a new electric skillet, etc.
We've got the richest poor people in the world and still they complain. There is no right to a job. If you don't have one that's good enough to furnish you with the lifestyle you want then it is incumbent upon you to find something better, even if it means moving or getting more eduction / skills.
Well said.
This is BS. People can't find a good paying job because of poor decisions they have made throughout their lives to not persue an eduction, not to MOVE TO WHERE THE JOBS ARE, choose to join unions instead of making it on their own merits, etc.
Only in America can an unemployed person drive a German car, have a TV, Computer, designer jeans, coffee, a new electric skillet, etc.
We've got the richest poor people in the world and still they complain. There is no right to a job. If you don't have one that's good enough to furnish you with the lifestyle you want then it is incumbent upon you to find something better, even if it means moving or getting more eduction / skills.
Proof positive you can be obtuse and somehow earn a college degree.
quote:Originally posted by MT357
I have never seen a good paying non union job.
You are kidding right? I am not union and I make well over $100K a year, get another 10% paid into my 401K every year and 5 weeks time off. I worked one union job, at a large telecomm, and will never work another one. The union bosses are jerks and the union workers lazy, as they know they can get away without doing much, and unions like the teachers' unions are in the pocket of liberal democrats. My wife makes $75K a year as a Registered Nurse and she is not union. My sister makes very decent money and has great benefits as a Paralegal, she is non-union. My brother owns his own non-union hardscaping firm in Pa and pays HIGH SCHOOL kids $16.00 an hour, because he can't even find enough adults who are willing to do manual labor. His foremen make $60K a year and get a company truck, and this is in an area where you can buy a house for $100K.
Nope not kidding one bit. Around here a rat job pays 30%-70% less than a union gig. That's in the get dirty trades, I never heard of an office workers union.
I never heard of an office workers union.
They do exist. Look up UAW 412. Nurses, Secretaries, Engineers, Artists, Designers, Admin Assistants, Lawyers (I think they even work for a City Gov)
If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!
quote:Originally posted by P228
quote:Originally posted by MT357
I have never seen a good paying non union job.
You are kidding right? I am not union and I make well over $100K a year, get another 10% paid into my 401K every year and 5 weeks time off. I worked one union job, at a large telecomm, and will never work another one. The union bosses are jerks and the union workers lazy, as they know they can get away without doing much, and unions like the teachers' unions are in the pocket of liberal democrats. My wife makes $75K a year as a Registered Nurse and she is not union. My sister makes very decent money and has great benefits as a Paralegal, she is non-union. My brother owns his own non-union hardscaping firm in Pa and pays HIGH SCHOOL kids $16.00 an hour, because he can't even find enough adults who are willing to do manual labor. His foremen make $60K a year and get a company truck, and this is in an area where you can buy a house for $100K.
Nope not kidding one bit. Around here a rat job pays 30%-70% less than a union gig. That's in the get dirty trades, I never heard of an office workers union.
Never heard of an office workers' union? Guess you never heard of government workers, most of them are union. Maybe you should get some training in a non-get-dirty job and make more money?
Is it that we are not makeing enough $ OR that things are over priced?
Is the problem that our NEEDS are not getting met or that our WANTS are not getting met?
footnote: German car.... VW? like a Rabbit or Jetta?
quote:Originally posted by chappsyny
This is BS. People can't find a good paying job because of poor decisions they have made throughout their lives to not persue an eduction, not to MOVE TO WHERE THE JOBS ARE, choose to join unions instead of making it on their own merits, etc.
Only in America can an unemployed person drive a German car, have a TV, Computer, designer jeans, coffee, a new electric skillet, etc.
We've got the richest poor people in the world and still they complain. There is no right to a job. If you don't have one that's good enough to furnish you with the lifestyle you want then it is incumbent upon you to find something better, even if it means moving or getting more eduction / skills.
Proof positive you can be obtuse and somehow earn a college degree.
Proof postive that the welfare, "gimmie" mentality is alive and well on gunbroker.
And with 14 million illegal Mexicans we are loosing even more jobs. They just finished a 85 housing unit in my town and 90 percent of the workers were mexican. Many could not speak any english but they sure could work.... for cash...They built 85 houses in 6 months form start to finish.. They worked under lights many nights...
Yeah ... but Americans wouldn't work under those conditions for that kind of pay ...
... so they were just doing the jobs Americans won't do.
? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
MT357,come down to the oilfield.I am non union and will make about $112,000 this year before bonuses and my union counterpart will make close to $70,000.Didn't take companies long to get tired of the"not my job" crap and use them only if there is no other alternative.One union outfit left because they couldn't handle the get it or go home mentality of the oilfield.If the UAW held to this,there would not be a need for a bailout.Fair wage is one thing,welfare wage and handout mentality is another.Before you answer read the line below[:D]
I've tried to find out about the oil fields but I can't get any straight answers out of anybody.
Then if that's at all acceptable I would like to know who to contact for work.
and why does he need to be in the manufacturing business why not a service industry
Because all those things can be made much cheaper overseas, than here in this country by overpaid under skilled union labor headed by corrupt union bosses.
We can't compete with those labor cost without Unions, paying 1 day does not work for me, I believe undeveloped nations should have a tariff imposed if the labor is less then reasonable.
MT you sir are the perfect example of whats wrong with unions and why so many jobs are forced to go offshore,glad you have such a high self worth that you would rather sit on your * at home than work at a job that is beneath you or what you think your worth,the one thing ALL union people have yet to understand,,,companies are NOT in business to give you a job,,they are in business to make money,If you are good at what you do,you will not need a union to get you a fair wage,companies will compete to hire you and your rate of pay will increase,,if your a union flunky you wait for the union to provide you everything you are not capable of getting yourself
First off you don't know f'ing thing about me or where I have been. Next summer will be 30 years since I have been out of high school and working. I am tired of getting shafted by companies. Going to work and promoised this and promised that only to give them 1+ years of your life and figure out half the stuff you were promised ain't gonna happen. Screw that, with a union contract there is no promise. It is all spelled out so some company stooge can't shaft you. There is none of this BS about "Oh you get some retirement after one year". Union contract says I get paid retirement from minute one. I am a product of my enviroment I got tired of the shaft.
kumate, thank you I'll check it out. Those prices sound better. The ones I found were like $18.00 for a mechanic.
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What do you do? And what sort of companies hire you just on promises? I get a written offer letter with base salary, company 401K contribution, end of year bonus, medical, time off, etc all written into the offer. I sign it and the company signs it, it is a legal agreement. My wife gets the same thing for her job.
MT you sir are the perfect example of whats wrong with unions and why so many jobs are forced to go offshore,glad you have such a high self worth that you would rather sit on your * at home than work at a job that is beneath you or what you think your worth,the one thing ALL union people have yet to understand,,,companies are NOT in business to give you a job,,they are in business to make money,If you are good at what you do,you will not need a union to get you a fair wage,companies will compete to hire you and your rate of pay will increase,,if your a union flunky you wait for the union to provide you everything you are not capable of getting yourself
Not to over simplify the issue, but Unions are already in place when people apply for a job in a CLOSED shop. The question is, do you want to work here and join the union or not. Yes? welcome. No? head on down the road.
Are you going to tell me that you would refuse a good paying job because you had to join a union?
And as far as my obtuse buddy chappsyny, I've never taken a dime in "welfare". I have however, cleaned restrooms, worked in a salvage yard, laid asphalt and drove Semis to earn money to pay for my degree. I'm gonna bet that mummy and daddy paid for yours. Your entitlement is showing.
quote:Originally posted by sharpshooter039
MT you sir are the perfect example of whats wrong with unions and why so many jobs are forced to go offshore,glad you have such a high self worth that you would rather sit on your * at home than work at a job that is beneath you or what you think your worth,the one thing ALL union people have yet to understand,,,companies are NOT in business to give you a job,,they are in business to make money,If you are good at what you do,you will not need a union to get you a fair wage,companies will compete to hire you and your rate of pay will increase,,if your a union flunky you wait for the union to provide you everything you are not capable of getting yourself
Not to over simplify the issue, but Unions are already in place when people apply for a job in a CLOSED shop. The question is, do you want to work here and join the union or not. Yes? welcome. No? head on down the road.
Are you going to tell me that you would refuse a good paying job because you had to join a union?
And as far as my obtuse buddy chappsyny, I've never taken a dime in "welfare". I have however, cleaned restrooms, worked in a salvage yard, laid asphalt and drove Semis to earn money to pay for my degree. I'm gonna bet that mummy and daddy paid for yours. Your entitlement is showing.
You had to do those things because your field falls under unskilled labor, hence your union membership. Skilled professions don't benefit from unionism.
I paid my own way through college and grad school and have a written agreement on compensation when I take a job with a company. I wouldn't work for "union" wages, and in my field I don't have to.
I have never seen a good paying non union job. Just looked at one. The guy wouldn't even tell me how much it paid. He said $22-$29, he wouldn't even tell me how much he would pay. Their retirement was crap too. This is a field mechanic for a name brand(fairly)equipment dealer too. I'll stick with my union work. It's been real slow this year, but I can make as much in 7-8 months and have at least 3x better retirement as opposed to working for that turkey for a whole 12 months.
Look into the oilfield. Tons of money to be made offshore, you just have to work hard for it. Benifits are great as well.
My field falls under unskilled labor? What are you smoking junior? I'm an Engineer and don't belong to a union. I do however, work along side union mechanics and designers.
You ain't very bright for a fella with a Masters Degree.