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quote:Originally posted by armilite
According to our newspaper yesterday 74% of NRA members support back ground checks.
Does not surprise me in the least.
Actually, everytime a felon is denied from buying a firearm a crime is prevented, the Federal crime of a felon buying a firearm.
I have had felons denied at my shop. Including my own brother. Common here is felony DWI's, the state will give you back your right to own a gun, but the Feds still deny the NICS.
quote:Originally posted by MG1890
Actually, everytime a felon is denied from buying a firearm a crime is prevented, the Federal crime of a felon buying a firearm.
I have had felons denied at my shop. Including my own brother. Common here is felony DWI's, the state will give you back your right to own a gun, but the Feds still deny the NICS.
I don't support them in any form but am forced to abide by the law until such time as the law can be changed. We just lost on BGC's for private party transfers in WA. Just heard on the Radio there's a bill in the Oregon legislature to do the same there (FFL required for almost all transfers/sales). Call your Reps!
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
Cars kill more people than anything else....and you don't need a background check to buy a car...
Yes you do. The FEDERAL form is filled out, you are called in to check if you are on the terror watch list. Every car you buy, you will sign a form saying you are not a terrorist, they will check every time too.
quote:Originally posted by MG1890
Actually, everytime a felon is denied from buying a firearm a crime is prevented, the Federal crime of a felon buying a firearm.
I have had felons denied at my shop. Including my own brother. Common here is felony DWI's, the state will give you back your right to own a gun, but the Feds still deny the NICS.
Obviously, I should have specified, that I meant actual crime, not made up ones.
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by cce1302
quote:Originally posted by MG1890
Actually, everytime a felon is denied from buying a firearm a crime is prevented, the Federal crime of a felon buying a firearm.
I have had felons denied at my shop. Including my own brother. Common here is felony DWI's, the state will give you back your right to own a gun, but the Feds still deny the NICS.
Good thing we criminalize victimless behavior.
I disagree with you. DWI is not a victim-less crime. Drunk drivers kill and injure people everyday in America. Driving drunk risks not only your own life but also the lives of every other person on the road.
I would if there was a way to determine once you have been checked you don't need to keep being checked.
Such as Oregon I have my Concealed but still have to be checked each and every time.
But how often is the data base changed if a person does become a felon, is established that they are not mentally competent. Has a court ordered restraining order against them.
So if you have already been cleared and one of the above has happened to you what then.
So I guess my answer is really NO I do not support background checks cause the system is flawed.
quote:Originally posted by mlincoln
quote:Originally posted by cce1302
quote:Originally posted by MG1890
Actually, everytime a felon is denied from buying a firearm a crime is prevented, the Federal crime of a felon buying a firearm.
I have had felons denied at my shop. Including my own brother. Common here is felony DWI's, the state will give you back your right to own a gun, but the Feds still deny the NICS.
Good thing we criminalize victimless behavior.
I disagree with you. DWI is not a victim-less crime. Drunk drivers kill and injure people everyday in America. Driving drunk risks not only your own life but also the lives of every other person on the road.
I believe he was calling gun ownership a victimless crime, not DWI.
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
quote:Originally posted by mlincoln
quote:Originally posted by cce1302
quote:Originally posted by MG1890
Actually, everytime a felon is denied from buying a firearm a crime is prevented, the Federal crime of a felon buying a firearm.
I have had felons denied at my shop. Including my own brother. Common here is felony DWI's, the state will give you back your right to own a gun, but the Feds still deny the NICS.
Good thing we criminalize victimless behavior.
I disagree with you. DWI is not a victim-less crime. Drunk drivers kill and injure people everyday in America. Driving drunk risks not only your own life but also the lives of every other person on the road.
I believe he was calling gun ownership a victimless crime, not DWI.
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
quote:Originally posted by mlincoln
quote:Originally posted by cce1302
quote:Originally posted by MG1890
Actually, everytime a felon is denied from buying a firearm a crime is prevented, the Federal crime of a felon buying a firearm.
I have had felons denied at my shop. Including my own brother. Common here is felony DWI's, the state will give you back your right to own a gun, but the Feds still deny the NICS.
Good thing we criminalize victimless behavior.
I disagree with you. DWI is not a victim-less crime. Drunk drivers kill and injure people everyday in America. Driving drunk risks not only your own life but also the lives of every other person on the road.
I believe he was calling gun ownership a victimless crime, not DWI.
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According to our newspaper yesterday 74% of NRA members support back ground checks.
Does not surprise me in the least.
I have had felons denied at my shop. Including my own brother. Common here is felony DWI's, the state will give you back your right to own a gun, but the Feds still deny the NICS.
Actually, everytime a felon is denied from buying a firearm a crime is prevented, the Federal crime of a felon buying a firearm.
I have had felons denied at my shop. Including my own brother. Common here is felony DWI's, the state will give you back your right to own a gun, but the Feds still deny the NICS.
Good thing we criminalize victimless behavior.
Cars kill more people than anything else....and you don't need a background check to buy a car...
Yes you do. The FEDERAL form is filled out, you are called in to check if you are on the terror watch list. Every car you buy, you will sign a form saying you are not a terrorist, they will check every time too.
http://www.niada.com/PDFs/Publications/USAPatriotAct.pdf
Actually, everytime a felon is denied from buying a firearm a crime is prevented, the Federal crime of a felon buying a firearm.
I have had felons denied at my shop. Including my own brother. Common here is felony DWI's, the state will give you back your right to own a gun, but the Feds still deny the NICS.
Obviously, I should have specified, that I meant actual crime, not made up ones.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by MG1890
Actually, everytime a felon is denied from buying a firearm a crime is prevented, the Federal crime of a felon buying a firearm.
I have had felons denied at my shop. Including my own brother. Common here is felony DWI's, the state will give you back your right to own a gun, but the Feds still deny the NICS.
Good thing we criminalize victimless behavior.
I disagree with you. DWI is not a victim-less crime. Drunk drivers kill and injure people everyday in America. Driving drunk risks not only your own life but also the lives of every other person on the road.
Such as Oregon I have my Concealed but still have to be checked each and every time.
But how often is the data base changed if a person does become a felon, is established that they are not mentally competent. Has a court ordered restraining order against them.
So if you have already been cleared and one of the above has happened to you what then.
So I guess my answer is really NO I do not support background checks cause the system is flawed.
quote:Originally posted by cce1302
quote:Originally posted by MG1890
Actually, everytime a felon is denied from buying a firearm a crime is prevented, the Federal crime of a felon buying a firearm.
I have had felons denied at my shop. Including my own brother. Common here is felony DWI's, the state will give you back your right to own a gun, but the Feds still deny the NICS.
Good thing we criminalize victimless behavior.
I disagree with you. DWI is not a victim-less crime. Drunk drivers kill and injure people everyday in America. Driving drunk risks not only your own life but also the lives of every other person on the road.
I believe he was calling gun ownership a victimless crime, not DWI.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by mlincoln
quote:Originally posted by cce1302
quote:Originally posted by MG1890
Actually, everytime a felon is denied from buying a firearm a crime is prevented, the Federal crime of a felon buying a firearm.
I have had felons denied at my shop. Including my own brother. Common here is felony DWI's, the state will give you back your right to own a gun, but the Feds still deny the NICS.
Good thing we criminalize victimless behavior.
I disagree with you. DWI is not a victim-less crime. Drunk drivers kill and injure people everyday in America. Driving drunk risks not only your own life but also the lives of every other person on the road.
I believe he was calling gun ownership a victimless crime, not DWI.
Fair enough. My apologies.
quote:Originally posted by mlincoln
quote:Originally posted by cce1302
quote:Originally posted by MG1890
Actually, everytime a felon is denied from buying a firearm a crime is prevented, the Federal crime of a felon buying a firearm.
I have had felons denied at my shop. Including my own brother. Common here is felony DWI's, the state will give you back your right to own a gun, but the Feds still deny the NICS.
Good thing we criminalize victimless behavior.
I disagree with you. DWI is not a victim-less crime. Drunk drivers kill and injure people everyday in America. Driving drunk risks not only your own life but also the lives of every other person on the road.
I believe he was calling gun ownership a victimless crime, not DWI.
Indeed.